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U.S. Politics 2016: From Russia With Love

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In early December, Rep. Bill Flores made what seemed like an obvious observation to a roomful of conservatives at a conference in Washington. Some of Donald Trump’s proposals, the Texas Republican cautioned, “are not going to line up very well with our conservative policies," though he quickly added that there was plenty the incoming president and GOP Congress could accomplish together.

Little did Flores realize the hell that would soon rain down from Trump's throng of enforcers.

 

Breitbart seized on Flores' remarks a few days later, calling them proof that House Republicans planned to “isolate and block President Donald Trump’s populist campaign promises.” A conservative populist blogger for the site TruthFeed then warned Flores on Twitter to "get ready for a shit storm," and posted a headline that read: “BREAKING: Rep. Bill Flores Has CRAFTED a PLAN to BLOCK Trump’s Immigration Reform.”

Sean Hannity jumped in, too, featuring the Breitbart post on his syndicated radio show. That only further riled the impromptu anti-Flores mob.

"@RepBillFlores get in @realDonaldTrump way & we will burn your career down until you are reduced to selling life insurance,” tweeted one person. "@RepBillFlores you can go hang yourself!!" another wrote.

So, Trump's supporters and hangers on think it's OK to use social and other media at intimidate even the mildest critic's of him?  All this before he's sworn in too.  There's more on this here.

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So, Trump's supporters and hangers on think it's OK to use social and other media at intimidate even the mildest critic's of him?  All this before he's sworn in too.  There's more on this here.

 

This is kind of funny. I wonder what happens when infrastructure plan push happens. Will they all fall in like good little soldiers like they did with Medicare part D?

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Just now, LongRider said:

So, Trump's supporters and hangers on think it's OK to use social and other media at intimidate even the mildest critic's of him?  All this before he's sworn in too.  There's more on this here.

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"Nobody wants to go first," said Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.), who received nasty phone calls, letters and tweets after he penned an August op-ed in The New York Times, calling on Trump to release his tax returns. "People are naturally reticent to be the first out of the block for fear of Sean Hannity, for fear of Breitbart, for fear of local folks."

I'd rather be damned than to live in fear of some dumb SOB like Sean Hannity. 

Nice to see all these conservative politicians not standing up for their so called "conservative values" cause they are afraid of somebody like Hannity.

Also, these guys created and nurtured this Frankenstein (meaning conservative media) and now it looks like they are getting eaten alive by him. If wasn't for the fact that these guys are now running the country, the whole situation would be hilarious.

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15 minutes ago, Roose Boltons Pet Leech said:

A towering orange whirlwind, at the centre of which is a golden carapace embedded with eleven toupees. 

IT'S GONNA BE YUUUUUGE.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said:

Also, these guys created and nurtured this Frankenstein (meaning conservative media) and now it looks like they are getting eaten alive by him. If wasn't for the fact that these guys now running the country, the whole situation would be hilarious.

 

I ain't much for biblical quotes, but some how, this seems to fit;  "They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind", which in turn comes from the Book of Hosea in the Hebrew Bible, Hosea 8-7 (according to wikipedia)

 

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@Ser Scot A Ellison,

Not really. He broke with department policy and went against the advice of his peers and his boss. It would be one thing if they had actually found something, but they didn't and they sat on the emails for weeks. Plus, and this is the most important part, he sent the letter to Congress KNOWING it would be leaked because he feared one of his agents MIGHT leak it. His actions were guaranteed to have a negative impact on Clinton in an attempt to try and make the FBI look better.  And he failed spectacularly. 

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Trump gets one more nut for his conservative mixed nuts collection:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/21/14033896/mick-mulvaney-debt-ceiling

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Mick Mulvaney is a Republican House member from South Carolina who, if confirmed by the United States Senate, will serve as Donald Trump’s director of the Office of Management and Budget. Mulvaney isn’t a Trump crony, and he’s not part of any kind of weird alt-right white nationalist faction. As best as anyone knows, he has no shady ties to the Russian government.

 

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Mulvaney was unimpressed. “I have heard people say that if we don’t do it it will be the end of the world,” he told the Hill in 2010. “I have yet to meet someone who can articulate the negative consequences.”

Rather than ask someone to explain it to him, Mulvaney simply chose to wallow in ignorance, and a few weeks later he popped up on Fox News saying again that he didn’t see what the big deal was. When a deal was eventually reached, Mulvaney voted against it, warning darkly that excessive debt threatened the country.

I sit here read this and think to myself that the conservative idea of defaulting on the debt wouldn’t likely have had disastrous consequences, might just be one of the dumbest conservative ideas ever.

But, then, I quickly realize, given conservative nuttery, it’s probably not even on the top ten list of conservative nutty ideas.

But still, it was pretty darn nutty.

Mulvaney’s and other conservative’s idea that “we must default now, in order to prevent a default later”, seems to me kind of like Howard J. Turkstra’s, aka “The Cruiser”, rationale for joining the army - “I thought I better join before I got drafted!!!” to which Sgt. Hulka, obviously annoyed, says “son there ain’t no draft.” Turkstra could have retorted that “yeah well maybe, but there might be a draft in the future”, so his decision to join the army right now made sense. Of course, such an argument would have been nonsense cause it makes no sense to do in the present what you fear might, "might" being the key term here, happen in the future.

Similarly the United States might have a sovereign debt default in it’s future, but that is hardly certain, and even if it does occur, it would be a long way off. Talking of debt default in 2011, to head off an uncertain debt default long into the future was simply conservative nonsense, particularly given the circumstances back then.

Mulvaney probably went around telling people, “that’s why the guys in my party call me the ‘true conservative’ cause I stick to my conservative principles”. Too bad John Candy wasn’t around to say, “should have called him the Dork.”

I do not know why people like Mulvaney couldn’t get the concept that US Treasuries are seen as safe stores of value, around the world, and are used to bring down the level of risk in portfolios and that they are an important lubricant in various financial transactions. I do not understand why people like Mulvaney proclaim to not understand that a debt default would have made United State’s borrowing cost higher. I don’t not understand why people like Mulvaney failed to understand that with the ZLB constraint in effect, it would have been extremely difficult, if not impossible, for the FED to restore equilibrium, by lowering the interest rate, after a fire sale of US Treasuries, which would have likely plunged the world in a deeper recession.

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For example, while speaking to the fringe-right conspiracist group the John Birch Society in July, Mulvaney claimed the Federal Reserve had “effectively devalued the dollar.” In fact, at the time he spoke, the Fed had presided over two straight years of rapid dollar appreciation against other world currencies and a years-long span of inflation that was below the central bank’s target rate.

Next time a conservative starts to bring up Milton Friedman, laugh in their face.

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His view, however, was that the Fed’s alleged devaluation had “choke[d] off economic growth,” and that people should look instead to Bitcoin as a currency that is “not manipulatable by any government.”

LOL. What a joke. How did does this work according to people like Mulvaney? Also, the thing with Bitcoin, ultimately what backs it? I'm not sure. Not that I'd take conservative investment advice anyway as I would have shorted US treasuries and lost my ass and would be investing in gold, which ain't that great of investment either. At least with US Dollars, it has value because you can pay taxes with it.

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along with his vow to “end Medicare as we know it” and his denunciation of Social Security as a “Ponzi scheme” — so the American people can get a clearer sense of what it is we’re in for.

Well at least the nutjob is honest about how feels. It would be interesting to see what would happen if more Republican politicians were more candid about their real views about Social Security and Medicare.

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Just to show the matters are getting crazy all around.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/family-flees-after-breitbart-and-fox-news-blame-them-for-christmas-play-cancellation/

It is a Jewish Family that decided to leave Lancaster County PA after a cancellation of a Christmas that the county stated was due to the amount of class time it will take.

The Family stated they ask for their child.to be excused back in September but nothing about cancelling the play.

Fox News and Breitbart stated they demanded it for Tiny Tim line of "God Bless everyone" and the good people are took it from there.

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1 hour ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said:

Why the fuck is she flying coach? Are they sure that was her?

Yea my thought exactly.   This whole thing seems ridiculous to the point of seeming orchestrated (trumps gilded little princess flies coach to show the hoi polloi she's one of them, only to be verbally attacked by a deranged gay liberal brandishing a baby, which ensures that how she's "one of them" in coach makes news).   Given this is the family of " John barron", this being some kind of stupid stunt seems disappointly plausible.   

Eta.   I'm not convinced that was even her.   Did they stick the whole secret service detail in coach too?

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So did this doom the chances for former UN ambassador John Bolton and his bushy mustache to become the next Secretary of State? Well, as a matter of fact…

So my question is this: If you are going to go around Chicken Hawking it up, should you keep the cheesy 1970s porn mustache or ditch it?

Decisions. Decisions.

LOL.

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SPORTS-POLITICS MASH UP TIME!!!!

8 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/i-mustache-you-did-john-boltons-facial-hair-doom-his-bid-to-become-secretary-of-state/

So my question is this: If you are going to go around Chicken Hawking it up, should you keep the cheesy 1970s porn mustache or ditch it?

Decisions. Decisions.

LOL.

Now that Jeff Fisher has been fired, do we need Bolton to be hired so that the nation's long mustache ride can continue? 

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