Kalbear Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, lokisnow said: But it's really surprising to see a data modeled prediction put Alabama and USC at equal footing, it's the sort of think I expect from click bait "analysis". Is USC's schedule that much better than Bamas? are their wins that much better than Bamas? @Kalbear have any insight why USC would be a push with Bama, data wise? Alabama's previously 'best' win (FSU) looks incredibly shitty now, they got their ass beat by Auburn, and USC has had bigger highs (and also lower lows). That said, 538 looks like they're smoking crack compared to S+P. And Alabama's resume S+P looks better yet. My suspicion is that the Elo-Chess system 538 uses is not particularly good at dealing with 'big' wins, as MoV factors both into S+P and resume S+P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I think that if you are looking at purely resume, a PAC-10 champ USC has a strong case to be ahead of Alabama. They won a conference, have two wins over a good Stanford team, and have a stronger schedule overall. The problem is that the SEC still has the reputation of being the best, even if their results the past couple of years haven't backed it up. I don't think there's much chance at all of USC getting a spot ahead of Bama. Even if they stomp Stanford, that would only make their two wins over Stanford look less impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Maithanet said: I think that if you are looking at purely resume, a PAC-10 champ USC has a strong case to be ahead of Alabama. They won a conference, have two wins over a good Stanford team, and have a stronger schedule overall. The problem is that the SEC still has the reputation of being the best, even if their results the past couple of years haven't backed it up. I don't think there's much chance at all of USC getting a spot ahead of Bama. Even if they stomp Stanford, that would only make their two wins over Stanford look less impressive. They have two wins over Stanford? I didn't think the Pac-12 championship game had been played yet. IF USC beats Stanford, sure. But they haven't, so I don't see why you'd rate USC over Bama higher NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperry Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The advanced analytics have been all out of whack all year. They've had Ohio State number one all year despite the fact that Ohio State got absolutely drubbed by Oklahoma and Iowa, struggled with Indiana and Michigan, and required a miracle comeback to beat Penn State. I think Ohio State is fine, but if your system is continously spitting them out as the best team in the country, your system needs work. Alabama has played an extremely weak schedule. They've dominated bad teams, been in dogfights with good but not spectacular teams like LSU and Mississippi State, and got stomped by the only top 15 type team they've played. They're a one dimensional team, and even their great defense is iffy after a number of injuries. The SEC was awful in non-conference play this year, the conference just wasn't good. They're living on a reputation from 5 years ago when there were strong teams in the middle of the pack in the SEC. Those days are gone, and the middle of the SEC is a wasteland. SEC of today is like the ACC of 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 17 hours ago, Kalbear said: They have two wins over Stanford? I didn't think the Pac-12 championship game had been played yet. IF USC beats Stanford, sure. But they haven't, so I don't see why you'd rate USC over Bama higher NOW. I said in the very first sentence that I was talking about a "PAC-10 champ USC", which would mean they had beaten Stanford again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Maithanet said: I said in the very first sentence that I was talking about a "PAC-10 champ USC", which would mean they had beaten Stanford again. I thought it was pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ded As Ned Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 UT might as well put an ad on craigslist jobs at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just now, Ded As Ned said: UT might as well put an ad on craigslist jobs at this point ESPN radio during a news break just said they plan to talk to Kevin Sumlin. I hadn’t considered that, but that’s probably the best possible hire they could have made from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S John Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Rhom said: ESPN radio during a news break just said they plan to talk to Kevin Sumlin. I hadn’t considered that, but that’s probably the best possible hire they could have made from the start. Yea, that would be a pretty good outcome for them considering the dumpster fire this has been. Sumlin is a unique case because he got fired, but I think just about any other head coach of a power 5 team would be crazy to go to Tennessee right now. Failing Sumlin it'll have to be a coordinator or someone from the G5 ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Mike Leach is the latest name to be thrown in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I'm hoping they hire Jeff Fischer. I mean, surely that guy deserves another chance, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Now they have fired the AD. What a dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Ole Miss slapped with another year of probation and loss of more scholarships... yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 "Train wreck" is not nearly strong enough to describe Tennessee. It's like the wreck of a circus train full of toddler monkeys who all escaped from a lunatic monkey asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 And Jimbo is officially leaving for aTm Don’t understand that at all. School isn’t better. Program isn’t better. Chance to win a title is less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Rhom said: And Jimbo is officially leaving for aTm Don’t understand that at all. School isn’t better. Program isn’t better. Chance to win a title is less. I agree. Did he go there? I always thought he was using ATM to get a raise at FSU. Apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Its for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 The only way the aTm deal makes sense is if the Aggies actually gave Jimbo his own ATM. It had to be about "astounding pile of money" since he was already well-paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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