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U.S. Politics Inaguration Sensation: Be Prepared


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4 minutes ago, Nasty LongRider said:

I love the sound of 'I don't believe it so it can't be real' in the morning.  

Most sounds don't give off such an odor of fuckwittery, that's how you know it's good!.

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7 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Tell that to the polar bears.

You could also tell it to many people in coastal regions, who don't have the ressources to build a wall big enough to avoid the floods that will be happening. But hey, why so negative,m they can now grow vine in Iceland! Cool, right?

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14 minutes ago, Commodore said:

maybe it's a frog in the boiling pot phenomenon, but politicians are not going to care about climate change until their voters do very high dollar contributors, lobbyists and much of the 0.01% billionaires do (and they don't)

fixed it for ya, no charge!  

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1 minute ago, Dr. Pepper said:

Yeah, CNN is total fail right now.  They missed out on Ashley Judd interrupting Michael Moore in order to delivery an amazing spoken poem.

Hillary lost to Trump among white women by 10 points, and non-college educated white women by 28 points.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-couldnt-win-over-white-women/

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That's the point people are making.  We're talking about the voters who do not care about their kids futures enough to vote for politicians who will protect those interests.  

This isn't true and even if it was, shame/guilting voters is a bad political strategy. 

Near term costs outweighing long term benefits is a justifiable tradeoff judgement voters make. Until tangible effects of climate change are manifest (you can say they are, but voters don't see it yet), it's not going to matter politically. 

On, "issues that matter most" surveys of voters, climate change never shows up, despite a relentless, sustained campaign from media/entertainment/academic/government elites telling us what a big deal it is (and when they don't feel like it's having an impact, they crank up the chicken little apocalypse predictions to 11, further damaging their credibility). 

Trump is going to try and give the people what he thinks they want, good or bad, and it certainly isn't action on climate.

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6 minutes ago, Mexal said:

I love how Fox News isn't showing any coverage of the Women's Marches across the country. Pretty much a state run news organization.

Ahh here, we go, a little coverage. Took a little while to get here. Glad they're showing something even if it's a 3 minute look in with no discussion.

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1 minute ago, Mexal said:

Ahh here, we go, a little coverage. Took a little while to get here. Glad they're showing something. Not the crowds but some of the speakers.

Mex, there was at least 4 minutes between your two posts. For the love of god man, how could you survive so long in such an unbearable state???

Someone make a new thread so we can bury my shame.

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2 minutes ago, Commodore said:

Hillary lost to Trump among white women by 10 points, and non-college educated white women by 28 points.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-couldnt-win-over-white-women/

I'm sorry, do you think I don't know that white women contributed to the shit we're dealing with right now?

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This isn't true and even if it was, shame/guilting voters is a bad political strategy. 

Near term costs outweighing long term benefits is a justifiable tradeoff judgement voters make. Until tangible effects of climate change are manifest (you can say they are, but voters don't see it yet), it's not going to matter politically. 

On, "issues that matter most" surveys of voters, climate change never shows up, despite a relentless, sustained campaign from media/entertainment/academic/government elites telling us what a big deal it is (and when they don't feel like it's having an impact, they crank up the chicken little apocalypse predictions to 11, further damaging their credibility). 

Trump is going to try and give the people what he thinks they want, good or bad, and it certainly isn't action on climate.

This is true.  You ignoring fact doesn't make it somehow less true.  It means that you don't care.  It means that you don't care about what the effects of climate change will have on your children and their future.

Of course we know that Trump isn't going to do shit about climate change.  He thinks it's a hoax.  His voters don't want him to do anything about it because they don't give a shit.  You've agreed they don't give a shit. 

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