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German politics xth attempt

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On 7.2.2018 at 4:39 PM, Mindwalker said:

Of course, a few months ago, Schulz definitely promised never to become a minister under Merkel... Oh well. I guess he knows he's an embarassment anyway, so it doesn't mattera nymore.

Well, apparently the base disagreed. I've always been critical of "Siggy Pop" Gabriel, but he really did god's work by launching that attack on Schulz.

On 7.2.2018 at 4:39 PM, Mindwalker said:

As to Scholz... Yeah, because G20 was such a success...

If it were just G20. Never voted for him in any election whatsoever, Old story, nonetheless that was a no-go. Anyway, I am not sure how he ended up as the "new hope" for the SPD. Maybe they are trying to emulate Merkel and bore her to death.

At least Kahrs that arms dealer isn't in the running for a cabinet post.

On 12.2.2018 at 3:22 PM, Jo498 said:

It is nevertheless true that the coalition will be anything but stable. Their policies will be mostly business as usual, i.e. Merkelian, so both the CSU and CDU rightwingers as well as the handful of Social Democrats left in the SPD will be unhappy with it.

Talking about it, guess who's back. Roland "Frogface" Koch. I thought that right win midget was gone from the political life after he buggered off to Bilfinger Berger (and failed there). But somehow him and that *censored* Jens Spahn are suddenly positioning themselves as the next generation of conservative leaders. I've no idea how bad Kramp Karrenbauer is, since I don't give a damn about the Saarland and what happens down there, but if the alternatives to her are herpes (Koch) and the pox (Spahn), I think I'd go with her.

As far as the new cabinet goes. At least de Maiziere is out. That's the one piece of good news.

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So Schulz is out, only two months after a party convention re-elected him as chairman. Scholz is to lead the party till another party convention can elect Nahles. The SPD members are to vote over the coalition but who is to be chairman is decreed by the party leadership. 

As for Scholz, he has won regional elections and also experience in federal politics. There isn't exactly an abundance of SPD politicians with that kind of profile. Of course he is unpopular in the party, but so were Schmidt and Schröder. It's almost a requirement for a potential SPD chancellor. The only other state prime minister who could run is Dreyer. But she never held an office in federal politics and her state is rather small. NRW would be a different thing. Same with Kramp-Karrenbauer in the CDU. Listening to foreign journalists breaking their tongues in futile attempts to pronounce her name would be fun, though.

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Seriously though, while the last election was almost boring in its predictability, I am absolutely dumbfounded how the next one will pan out. The SPD is currently committing suicide over keeping Merkel in power, the FDP have abandoned the pretense of wanting to govern, and while I agree with that postillon article a few posts back that argued the Greens had held the CDU and FPD in check in a way that the SPD obviously hasn't, I still fear they might shoot themselves in the foot before the elections once again, and simultaneously, their new leadership is... less than encouraging from a lefftist perspective. Die Linke, meanwhile, use their political irrelevance to tear into each other instead of trying to get a workale left-of-center majority once again. At the same time, the CDU looks like a hollow shell of its former self, on the verge of electoral collapse once Merkel is gone as anchor of stability. So, what gives? I hope the AfD doesn't continue to grow, but I see little hope for them not to. I fear that right-wing nationalism will get its chance to govern our country well before social democracy ever gets another chance after this clusterfuck.

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8 hours ago, Loge said:

 Same with Kramp-Karrenbauer in the CDU. Listening to foreign journalists breaking their tongues in futile attempts to pronounce her name would be fun, though.

As silly as it may be, this was also one of my first thoughts when she was mentioned as a candidate for higher offices.

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LOL. That'd be fun.

However, I think Gabriel will manage to keep his post. The way he managed to kick out Schulz was backstabbing, he even used his little daughter for it, and seems dumb at the surface (had he just kept quiet for a few days, the parody shows were doing the job just fine), but while he is many, many things, he is not stupid. So now the base is as angry at him as it is with Schulz, but what if he managed to prove in a heroic act how great he is as a foreign minister? Yilderim has been making noises about Deniz Yücel maybe getting free soon. (Of coursde he doesn't know because Turkey is a democratic state and the courts are totally independent.) Gabriel is best buddies with Erdogan (and Schröder, who might help out. He knows his way around pure democrats like Putin.) Voilà - Siggy saves Yücel, with whatever dirty deal (official or not)! The base might forgive him and celebrate him.

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Well, well.

No. 1 - Free Deniz - check. (And of course I'm happy for him.)

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article173644774/WELT-Korrespondent-Deniz-Yuecel-kommt-frei.html

http://taz.de/Deniz-Yuecel-kommt-frei-Troeoet/!5485238/

No. 2 - Siggy beating his manly heroic chest - check. (NOT happy about that.)

Anyone taking bets regarding his political future?

Yilderim and Merkel yesterday, valiantly fighting a terrorist attack that displayed photographs: http://taz.de/Tuerkischer-Ministerpraesident-in-Berlin/!5485092/

ETA: http://taz.de/Nach-der-Freilassung-von-Deniz-Yuecel/!5485304/

Gabriels großer Auftritt

Eigentlich wird Sigmar Gabriels Anwesenheit dieser Tage in München vorausgesetzt. Als geschäftsführender Bundesaußenminister soll der SPD-Politiker auf der Sicherheitskonferenz mit internationalen Spitzenpolitiker*innen die angespannte Weltlage diskutieren.

Doch nach einem kurzen Auftritt vor dem Bayerischen Hof am Mittag, verließ Gabriel München schon wieder – und düste zurück nach Berlin. Die Nachricht des Tages, Deniz Yücels Freilassung, die wollte er in der Hauptstadt erleben. Oder vielmehr: dort inszenieren. Im sogenannten Newsroom der Zeitung Die WELT, für die Deniz Yücel als Türkei-Korrespondent bis zu seiner Inhaftierung tätig war, kam Gabriels Rolle bei Yücels Freilassung besser zur Geltung. Denn sie ist, wie er klarmachte, allen voran ein Erfolg für ihn.

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