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On 9/23/2017 at 10:25 AM, jezzie_bell said:

OMG, I was so angry about Taboo.  It was a big Tom Hardy wank-fest.  

Speaking of which, I'm surprised that Ozarks hasn't had more of a mention.  I had issues with it for the same reason as Taboo, but most people really enjoyed it.  

 

Also, I know it doesn't technically fit here, but I only discovered the show in 2017..... Fleabag 

 

Allow me to take the contrarian stance here - I bloody loved Taboo. Tom Hardy had a BIG part to play in that since he's my favorite actor and his presence can elevate most things he's in IMO - but the it was a good show.

Not without it's flaws, mind you - that whole PTSD angle did nothing for me and it's the central ''BUT LOOK HOW SMART WE ARE'' bit of the show. The promise of a despicable protagonist that's hard to root for isn't quite delivered on the way I hoped it would be; but overall it's a pretty great period drama. Sets, atmosphere, cinematography, acting all are ace and it has genuinely great moments.

 

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3 hours ago, Фейсал said:

Allow me to take the contrarian stance here - I bloody loved Taboo. Tom Hardy had a BIG part to play in that since he's my favorite actor and his presence can elevate most things he's in IMO - but the it was a good show.

Not without it's flaws, mind you - that whole PTSD angle did nothing for me and it's the central ''BUT LOOK HOW SMART WE ARE'' bit of the show. The promise of a despicable protagonist that's hard to root for isn't quite delivered on the way I hoped it would be; but overall it's a pretty great period drama. Sets, atmosphere, cinematography, acting all are ace and it has genuinely great moments.

I know lots of people who loved it.  It was beautiful and had this dark, ominous feel throughout.  Although sometimes, the blue filter felt too dark.  It had to be watched in a blackened room with zero glare on the telly to be able to make sense of it.

I have two main gripes:  

One is that no characters other than the main character were detailed out at all.  We got nothing really on poor Zilpha.  Even Lorna felt somehow neglected.  There was this rich backstory for both women, but it was only alluded to, never properly explored... perhaps a goal for season 2.

There were lots of threads that the show introduced.  One example is Lloyd's of London.  Zilpha's hubby was an insurance man and there are a couple of references to Leadenhall.  Also, there was this very strange line when Zilpha is reading a letter from James.  It's completely misplaced in the rest of the language and says "Ship insurance, the new China", in the middle of him telling her that she shouldn't be bound by morality that she doesn't believe in.  Weird, right?  I actually thought having the battle between Lloyd's and East India Co would provide an interesting backdrop, but that went nowhere.

It just wasn't my cup of tea, in the end. But I will still probably tune in for season 2.:rolleyes:

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  1. The Americans Season 5
  2. The Handmaid's Tale Season 1 
  3. Expanse Season 2
  4. Sense8 Season 2
  5. Big Little Lies
  6. Master of None Season 2 
  7. Outlander Season 3
  8. Game of Thrones Season 7
  9. House of Cards Season 5
  10. The Defenders Season 1
  11. Sherlock Season 4
  12. The Good Fight Season 1
  13. The White Princess
  14. Homeland Season 6
  15. Voltron Season 2
  16. Young Sheldon Season 1
  17. Greys Anatomy Season 13/14
  18. The Big Bang Theory Season 10/11
  19. Iron Fist Season 1
  20. Orange is the New Black Season 5 - I prefer to believe this never happened
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2 hours ago, Risto said:
  1. The Americans Season 5
  2. The Handmaid's Tale Season 1 
  3. Expanse Season 2
  4. Sense8 Season 2
  5. Big Little Lies
  6. Master of None Season 2 
  7. Outlander Season 3
  8. Game of Thrones Season 7

I'll wait on ranking Outlander. I am enjoying it, but considering that I found the season 1 finale kinda poor, while the season 2 finale was very good, I think it's best to wait until the end.

On another subject, I know I said this about Designated Survivor...

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Designated Survivor - I'm done with this one; interesting premise, weak execution

but out of boredom I watched the first episode of the new season; then I watched the 2nd. While it is often a bit silly, and over-dramatic, I realized there is one good thing about it. President Tom Kirkman is a wonderful man and a good president, and he behaves as a president should. So you could place this show in the 'escapism' category for reasons to watch a show. ;)

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Black Sails Season 4. 

One of the latest years best shows. And the final season was great, albeit not as great as the two previous ones. But they still managed to pull it off. A series with great story and great characters all around. 

The Expanse Season 2. 

A great premise with interesting twists and turns and human and relatable characters. One of the most gorgeous sci-fi series I've seen. 

The Americans Season 5. 

The best show on tv in recent years but this season was a let-down. I thought this show would be the unquestionable leader of tv but this season proved even the mighty might one day fall. 

The Last Kingdom Season 2. 

Continuing on what worked in season 1 and definitely has more seasons in it. 

Narcos Season 3. 

Another great season of this series. Tense and action-packed with the right amount of drama and action. 

The 100 Season 4. 

Maybe not as good as the two previous seasons but still a very solid season with great dilemmas and character developments. 

Vikings S4.2. 

Enjoyable but this really needs to get some story and character development going. It has been running a bit dry now for a season or two. 

Walking Dead S7.2. 

More of the same old. One of Walking Dead's most boring season, and they're really milking that cow dry. Potential is there but isn't realised. 

Game of Thrones Season 7.

The less said about this the better maybe. How you can completely butcher the amazing work it's based on is beyond me. A shame someone didn't predict how big of a clowns David and Dan were before, so someone else could have adapted it. 

The writing is abysmal, the character motivations non-existing and the story makes no sense what so ever anymore. 

 

All in all, a pretty solid year for tv. The Americans season 5 dissappointed a bit but if they deliver a solid last season it can be forgiven. Since the first 4 seasons have been absolutely brilliant, and the two lead roles are maybe the most interesting characters on tv now, I still have hopes for season 6. As another poster said, it felt like they divided up season 5 and season 6 from a single season, and therefore this season was mostly set-up for the next one.  

 

 

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7 hours ago, Corvinus said:

I'll wait on ranking Outlander. I am enjoying it, but considering that I found the season 1 finale kinda poor, while the season 2 finale was very good, I think it's best to wait until the end.

I got there a bit early as I thoroughly enjoyed this season, especially Scotland and dashing Lord Grey storyline. He is becoming one of my favorite male TV characters. Plus, the aesthetics is absolutely stunning.

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A new #1 for me:

  1. Stranger Things 2
  2. Black Sails
  3. The Expanse
  4. Legion
  5. Sense8
  6. The Last Kingdom
  7. Agents of SHIELD
  8. Grimm
  9. Star Wars Rebels
  10. The Defenders
  11. House of Cards
  12. Homeland
  13. iZombie
  14. Killjoys
  15. Game of Thrones
  16. Iron Fist
  17. Sherlock
  18. Elementary
  19. Dark Matter
  20. The Walking Dead
  21. The Blacklist
  22. Designated Survivor
  23. Arrow
  24. Brooklyn-99
  25. The Strain
  26. Supergirl
  27. Legends of Tomorrow
  28. The Flash
  29. The Big Bang Theory
  30. Taboo
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It's time to update my list from the last time... which was back in June. I've got 6 shows to add.

I've actually watched 34 full seasons of 27 shows this year, including rewatches, or 30 seasons of 26 shows, if you don't count rewarches, but the majority of those doesn't fall under this list, since they didn't air in 2017.

Shows I've added since my last list are in bold.

  1. BoJack Horseman (the best show I've discovered this year. I watched all 4 seasons this year, and the show gets better with each. Season 1 was OK, but seasons 2, 3 and 4 were great, and I think the latest one is the best so far)
  2. The Handmaid’s Tale
  3. Agents of SHIELD (guaranteed to remain high on the list no matter what the new episodes of season 5 are like when it returns in December, because the Framework arc was that great)
  4. The Good Place (I put it on my list after season 1, and it also could theoretically go up or down, since season 2 has been airing this autumn, but so far it looks like it's going to stay where it is. Season 1 ended with a great twist, and season 2 so far has found a way to remain fresh and avoid repetitiveness)
  5. American Gods
  6. The Americans (the best current show on TV - though BoJack is giving it a run for its money - but season 5 was relatively weaker and had plot and pacing issues)
  7. The Last Kingdom (season 2 has pretty much the same strengths and weaknesses as season 1. I like this show a lot, but I really wished both this year and the last that they would slow down, instead of breezing through storylines. I haven't read the books, but I know that they're adapting two books by season - that's 4 episodes for each book - and it shows. They take 3 or 4 episodes to cover the amount of events that other shows would tell over a 13 or 20 episode season, or that The Walking Dead would drag out for multiple seasons. No matter how entertaining this fast pace may be, you don't get enough time to get attached to characters or relationships or for the big moments to land more strongly. If this show and The Walking Dead had a baby together, maybe it would be a perfectly paced show.)
  8. Legion
  9. Broadchurch
  10. The Defenders (it was fun and entertaining and had some wonderful character moments of interaction between the main characters, but the plot was half-baked and went downhill in the second half of the season, some of the...character development/arc, if you can call it that, made no sense, and the Hand were always terrible villains and just got worse. Why the heck have they been polluting the Marvel Netflix shows, for 3 seasons of 3 shows?)
  11. Taboo
  12. Iron Fist (was it that awful as some people said? No, but it was still pretty bad. I went back and forth whether to rank it ahead of TWD or not, but in the end, at least IF had one storyline/character I genuinely enjoyed (Ward Mitchum), plus Claire had some nice moments and lines (I enjoyed her here better than on Luke Cage, for sure).
  13. The Walking Dead (I had dropped this show, kind of - or rather, I just didn't bother watching the second half of season 7 when it was airing. A week or so before it was to return, I decided, what the hell, I'll go through those 8 episodes - it's the "I've come so far, why not see these thing end" - watching is as background noise while I'm working on my other laptop. And, if you watch TWD like that, it becomes a lot more bearable - in fact, it may be the perfect show to watch that way, since it doesn't distract you too much from the work, as 90% of the screentime nothing is actually happening. I was somewhat pleasantly surprised that 7B wasn't that awful as 7A - there were some moments I liked, and less of the really annoying things - i.e. less torture porn and less of the N-character - so is why I even considered putting it above Iron Fist. However, this begs the question, is the list supposed to reflect just episodes that aired in 2017, or the entire season? Plus, the new episodes of season 8 are so far doing nothing for me.)

But lucky for TWD and Iron Fist, neither will hold the title of the worst show I watched this year - because I've seen the first two episodes of Inhumans, and will probably watch the rest (in the background noise kind of way) out of MCU completism, plus I want to see if how bad a show can be (and if the episodes 3-8 get the show into the 'so bad it's good' category so that it can be ironically enjoyed, The Room-style, or is it just going to remain a terrible show that you can't even ironically enjoy). 

 

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  1. The Americans Season 5
  2. The Handmaid's Tale Season 1 
  3. Expanse Season 2
  4. Sense8 Season 2
  5. Stranger Things Season 2
  6. Big Little Lies
  7. Master of None Season 2 
  8. Outlander Season 3
  9. Game of Thrones Season 7
  10. House of Cards Season 5
  11. The Defenders Season 1
  12. Sherlock Season 4
  13. The Good Fight Season 1
  14. The White Princess
  15. Homeland Season 6
  16. Voltron Season 2
  17. Young Sheldon Season 1
  18. Greys Anatomy Season 13/14
  19. The Big Bang Theory Season 10/11
  20. Iron Fist Season 1
  21. Orange is the New Black Season 5

Stranger Things Season 2 was amazing, but I didn't find the story as engaging as I found Expanse or Sense8. While the quality Of ST may trump S8 or Expanse, I simply found it lacking of some "wow" factor, which I easily found in the two previously mentioned shows.

Still to rate: The Shannara Chronicles, Will and Grace, hopefully I will also have time for Orphan Black and Legion.

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On 02/11/2017 at 8:23 PM, Annara Snow said:

 

  1. BoJack Horseman (the best show I've discovered this year. I watched all 4 seasons this year, and the show gets better with each. Season 1 was OK, but seasons 2, 3 and 4 were great, and I think the latest one is the best so far)

Totally agree.

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On 10/14/2017 at 4:23 PM, Corvinus said:

I'll wait on ranking Outlander. I am enjoying it, but considering that I found the season 1 finale kinda poor, while the season 2 finale was very good, I think it's best to wait until the end.

I finished season 1 recently and I'm now at episode 2.3 so I don't know how good season 2 finale was, but I thought the season 1 finale was great. The ending to season 1 was really strong.

It's one of the shows I started this year that should be catching up soon and that will probably appear on my list by the end of this year.

New list, with a few new additions in bold (no, still no Punisher - I've only had the time to start it):

  1. BoJack Horseman 
  2. The Handmaid’s Tale
  3. Big Little Lies
  4. Agents of SHIELD
  5. The Good Place
  6. American Gods
  7. The Americans
  8. The Last Kingdom
  9. Legion
  10. Broadchurch
  11. Absentia (solid AXN thriller, just finished this Monday, probably a one-off)
  12. Star Trek: Discovery (this part of season 1 was very uneven, but it's hard to judge before the season is over)
  13. Gunpowder
  14. The Defenders
  15. Taboo
  16. The Walking Dead
  17. Iron Fist
  18. Inhumans

In the battle of bad shows, The Walking Dead has slightly risen one place. I'm not thrilled with total war, but it's still better than torture porn and N%^$ being annoying (they have been using him more sparsely, and he's even slightly less annoying, maybe as a result of that). Though TWD being TWD, it will probably do some crap by the end of this year that will piss me off again. Still, I'm sure it can't go under Inhumans - that was a whole other level of bad.

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1. Gomorrah- s2

2. Big Little Lies

3. Stranger Things- s2

4. Mindhunter

5. The Missing- s2

6. Vice Principals- s2

7. Fargo-s3

8. Better Call Saul- s3

9. GoT

10. Taboo

Curb has been amazing this year, and I still have to watch Suburra and The Punisher.

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On 11/2/2017 at 3:23 PM, Annara Snow said:

It's time to update my list from the last time... which was back in June. I've got 6 shows to add.

I've actually watched 34 full seasons of 27 shows this year, including rewatches, or 30 seasons of 26 shows...

...But lucky for TWD and Iron Fist, neither will hold the title of the worst show I watched this year - because I've seen the first two episodes of Inhumans, and will probably watch the rest (in the background noise kind of way) out of MCU completism, plus I want to see if how bad a show can be (and if the episodes 3-8 get the show into the 'so bad it's good' category so that it can be ironically enjoyed, The Room-style, or is it just going to remain a terrible show that you can't even ironically enjoy). 

 

Impressive list! Many on here recommended BoJack, so it's on my queue. I'm wrapping up Punisher today then on to Mindhunter, so hopefully I can start BoJack after that.

I jumped off the Inhumans ship after episode one. Then a few days ago I talked with a friend who watched the whole season and liked it more than I anticipated. So I went back and gave the final episode a look. So, um, yeah, I made the right call. This is not good. Blackbolt deserves better. Karnak deserves better. Lockjaw, they did okay by him. I do still hope that Blackbolt shows up in the Infinity War film because the TV shows deserve a proper crossover into the MCU films. Plus, if you're going to battle Thanos then you need Blackbolt on your side.

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Updates:

  1. Stranger Things 2
  2. Black Sails
  3. The Expanse
  4. Godless
  5. Legion
  6. Sense8
  7. The Last Kingdom
  8. Agents of SHIELD
  9. The Punisher
  10. Grimm
  11. Star Wars Rebels
  12. The Defenders
  13. House of Cards
  14. Homeland
  15. iZombie
  16. Killjoys
  17. Game of Thrones
  18. Iron Fist
  19. Sherlock
  20. Elementary
  21. Dark Matter
  22. The Walking Dead
  23. The Blacklist
  24. Designated Survivor
  25. Arrow
  26. Brooklyn-99
  27. The Strain
  28. Supergirl
  29. Legends of Tomorrow
  30. The Flash
  31. The Big Bang Theory
  32. Taboo

I watch too many shows. I wonder if I'll get to 40 this year, too. :P

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Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Season 3 - I have no doubt in my mind as to plac8ng this to. Easily the most entertaining show I have watched this year, and such a brilliantly clever show that resonates so much with me personally. Can’t wait to watch the end of the season next year.

Orphan Black Season 5 

the Americans S5 

Big Little Lies 

The Expanse S2

Stranger Things Season 2 - good, didn’t enjoy as much as S1 though.

Sense8 S2

The Handmaid's Tale S1 

Crazy Ex-Girlfriend S2

American Gods S1

GLOW S1

Catastrophe S3

Legion S1

The Defenders - flawed but alright. 

Sneaky Pete S1

Master of None S2

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt S3

The Last Kingdom S2

13 Reasons Why

Dear White People

I, Zombie S3

Fargo S3  

Orange is the New Black S5 

Hot Girls Wanted, Turned On

I Love Dick

House of Cards S5 

GOT S7 

[insert big gap here. Huge drop in quality between the top of my list and bottom]

A Series of Unfortunate Events S1

Taboo S1

Iron Fist S1

 

Currently watching Peaky Blinders and The Punisher. The former is going to be a high ranking, the latter, eh, I’m not convinced as it’s not wowing me. Oh I’m also watching Howard’s End, which is a decent adaptation of one of my favourite books. I’m behind though so we’ll see how it progresses

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  1. The Americans Season 5
  2. The Handmaid's Tale Season 1 
  3. Expanse Season 2
  4. Sense8 Season 2
  5. Stranger Things Season 2
  6. Big Little Lies
  7. Master of None Season 2 
  8. Outlander Season 3
  9. Game of Thrones Season 7
  10. House of Cards Season 5
  11. The Defenders Season 1
  12. Sherlock Season 4
  13. The Good Fight Season 1
  14. The White Princess
  15. Will and Grace Season 9
  16. Homeland Season 6
  17. Voltron Season 2
  18. Young Sheldon Season 1
  19. Greys Anatomy Season 13/14
  20. The Big Bang Theory Season 10/11
  21. Iron Fist Season 1
  22. The Shannara Chronicles Season 2
  23. Orange is the New Black Season 5

Two new shows for the list... W&G was always my favorite and I have enjoyed watching it through ad through. But, it does feel as we somehow moved from that point. I mean, yes, with the orange balloon in the White House, the issues we had in early 2000s are just as relevant as they were back then. I like that they hit some points and I enjoy comedies going the other way. The episode with Jack's grandson and "correction" camp was just a haunting reminder where we actually live. As for Chronicles, simply, you feel there is a great story in the source material. But, it just can't get out from the pile of stupid decisions producers, directors and actors have made. 

So, as we approach the end of the year, it becomes clear what TV products were actually worth of our time. There are some TV shows on this list I barely remember watching and some I can't forget even if I want to. That said, it is exciting time for TV and I enjoy every second of it. Next on the list: Godless, The Punisher, Gunpowder, Legion, 13 reasons why and if time allows me, to finally finish Orphan Black. Black Mirror will probably have to wait 2018. 

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As of 11/28...

1-Black Sails

2-Game of Thrones

3-Sense 8

4-The Expanse

5- The Last Kingdom

6- Mr. Robot

7-  The Handmaid's Tale

8- Narcos

9- Punisher

10- Outlander

Peaky Blinders is yet to debut here in the States... .

Honorable mention... Ozark, Legion, American Gods, Walking Dead, Lemony Snickets, Preacher, The Americans, The Magicians, Queen of the South, The Son, Orphan Black, Turn, The Last Ship, Into the Badlands, Feud. House of Cards, the Defenders, The Path, Better Call Saul, Snowfall, Stranger Things, Damnation, Godless, Longmire, Mindhunters

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10 hours ago, Martini Sigil said:

 

As of 11/28...

1-Black Sails

2-Game of Thrones

3-Sense 8

4-The Expanse

5- The Last Kingdom

6- Mr. Robot

7-  The Handmaid's Tale

8- Narcos

9- Punisher

10- Outlander

Peaky Blinders is yet to debut here in the States... .

Honorable mention... Ozark, Legion, American Gods, Walking Dead, Lemony Snickets, Preacher, The Americans, The Magicians, Queen of the South, The Son, Orphan Black, Turn, The Last Ship, Into the Badlands, Feud. House of Cards, the Defenders, The Path, Better Call Saul, Snowfall, Stranger Things, Damnation, Godless, Longmire, Mindhunters

The idea is to rank all shows you've watched that aired during 2017, not to make a top 10.

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