Rhom Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: Think this is maybe the Warriors/Cavs effect. Those teams are so far ahead in terms of talent that it seems to have put most of the rest of the league in a sort of holding pattern in terms of trading to make a run at the title. The Cavs window has to be closing though doesn't it? Love seems to be getting injured more often. LeBron can't have too many more miles in the tank. Kyrie is great in context of this team, but the Cavs were terrible when it was just him... How much longer do we really think they have at the top? Two seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rhom said: The Cavs window has to be closing though doesn't it? Love seems to be getting injured more often. LeBron can't have too many more miles in the tank. Kyrie is great in context of this team, but the Cavs were terrible when it was just him... How much longer do we really think they have at the top? Two seasons? Maybe, but I don't think the Warriors can keep all their pieces past another season either. So it's kind of the same deal. I think many teams are just waiting for that cap situation to become unmanageable, then you make your move. And maybe with one of the pieces they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 And Courtney Lee be trippin'... http://sports.yahoo.com/news/courtney-lee-thought-he-could-beat-lebron-to-the-rim-but-he-was-wrong-044337795.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, Rhom said: The Cavs window has to be closing though doesn't it? Love seems to be getting injured more often. LeBron can't have too many more miles in the tank. Kyrie is great in context of this team, but the Cavs were terrible when it was just him... How much longer do we really think they have at the top? Two seasons? I wouldn't say Love is getting injured more often. He was healthy pretty much all last year, and his issue two years ago was a freak injury on a dirty play by Olynyk. The team pretty much rests on LeBron, though. As long as he's playing at a high level, they'll contend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, Rhom said: The Cavs window has to be closing though doesn't it? Love seems to be getting injured more often. LeBron can't have too many more miles in the tank. Kyrie is great in context of this team, but the Cavs were terrible when it was just him... How much longer do we really think they have at the top? Two seasons? Much like Tim Duncan, I wouldn't count against LeBron until we actually see some sort of evidence that he's not playing at a super-high level anymore. And as long as he's at that level, any team he's on will have a shot; especially if Eastern teams don't get their act together enough to realistically challenge him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 How good do you guys think Draymond Green will be when he grows up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 42 minutes ago, James Arryn said: How good do you guys think Draymond Green will be when he grows up? I don't think it will ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: Maybe, but I don't think the Warriors can keep all their pieces past another season either. So it's kind of the same deal. I think many teams are just waiting for that cap situation to become unmanageable, then you make your move. And maybe with one of the pieces they lose. It's hard to see anyone overtaking the Cavs and the Warriors over the next few seasons outside of a fluke series, so maybe it makes sense to hold onto those two top tier Nets draft picks. Put once the Cavs and the Warriors begin to fall the Wolves, Bucks and a few other unseen teams should be turning into juggernauts. So who knows when Boston will have a chance to strike. 1 hour ago, briantw said: I wouldn't say Love is getting injured more often. He was healthy pretty much all last year, and his issue two years ago was a freak injury on a dirty play by Olynyk. The team pretty much rests on LeBron, though. As long as he's playing at a high level, they'll contend. Love was always hurt when he was in MN. He is kind of injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, briantw said: I don't think it will ever happen. Yeah, I think you're probably right. On the plus side, he's already pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime L Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: Think this is maybe the Warriors/Cavs effect. Those teams are so far ahead in terms of talent that it seems to have put most of the rest of the league in a sort of holding pattern in terms of trading to make a run at the title. Fair point. And even with Butler I don't think they beat Cleveland. But maybe they give 'em a run for their money. They seem to be walking the very tricky balance of both being good now and great later. But even if with all their picks they'll still need a good deal of luck to be great later. Maybe if they already had one guy I'm sure will be great in 3-4 years, like an AD or KAT to build around, it'd be different. It's clear their biggest fear is cashing out on these immensely valuable picks too early and peaking at something below a title contender. But it's almost as much a risk of cashing out too late. if they don't play it right, could easily see them ending up good now, good later but never great in the way that wins a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunderMifflin Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 4 hours ago, James Arryn said: How good do you guys think Draymond Green will be when he grows up? He will be in the stands fighting security and feuding with the team owner in 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Holy fuck do I love PJ Tucker. He basically shut down Isiah Thomas in the 4th quarter. If Boston plays the Raps in the playoffs the Celtics have no chance. They didn't match up well prior to the trades. It's much worse now. EDIT: Also if there isn't a heavy fine or suspension for Isiah Thomas miming shooting Demarre Carroll(because Carroll did a flagrant 1 on him) then the league should be ashamed of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Thing is these windows will close on the Warriors, but as long as LeBron has Kyrie and another piece or two (shooters) to spread the floor, as long as LeBron is healthy he'said competing for titles, period. Now, withe the addition of Williams and Bogut, the Casts chance and repeating are looking a lot better. So, what I'm trying to say is, this short window for GSM might not even produce a ring. And,an how would I love to hear the Bay area howl if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, Michael Seswatha Jordan said: Thing is these windows will close on the Warriors, but as long as LeBron has Kyrie and another piece or two (shooters) to spread the floor, as long as LeBron is healthy he'said competing for titles, period. Now, withe the addition of Williams and Bogut, the Casts chance and repeating are looking a lot better. So, what I'm trying to say is, this short window for GSM might not even produce a ring. And,an how would I love to hear the Bay area howl if that's the case. Honestly I think the Warriors and the Cavs are more or less in the same place. Lot of miles on those tires.I wouldn't be surprised to see Lebron's game start to dip some over the next couple of seasons. He can only carry that team for so long, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Not sure I see any reason why Golden State's window would be shorter than that of the Cavs. Unless the idea is that they cannot make it work financially once Curry gets a new deal? Seems to me this foursome will try to stay together, and they are still young. Interesting btw that both Bogut and Deron Williams sign with the Cavs. Definitely strengthens that team, especially Bogut coming in. Apparently he was pretty lousy for Dallas but he can't have regressed that much in the space of a few months, he was good for Golden State last season. Deron Williams on the other hand has been dire for years, but you'd think the Cavs, with that gaping hole at backup PG, will still be very pleased with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 On 2/25/2017 at 2:00 AM, DunderMifflin said: He will be in the stands fighting security and feuding with the team owner in 30 years. Took Boogie 2 games and 90 seconds to get another technical foul. Pelicans are now 0-3 since he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Calibandar said: Not sure I see any reason why Golden State's window would be shorter than that of the Cavs. Unless the idea is that they cannot make it work financially once Curry gets a new deal? Seems to me this foursome will try to stay together, and they are still young. Interesting btw that both Bogut and Deron Williams sign with the Cavs. Definitely strengthens that team, especially Bogut coming in. Apparently he was pretty lousy for Dallas but he can't have regressed that much in the space of a few months, he was good for Golden State last season. Deron Williams on the other hand has been dire for years, but you'd think the Cavs, with that gaping hole at backup PG, will still be very pleased with that. Yeah, it's the finances that are sure to blow up. If Durant exercises his option, it could blow up next season. The Warriors front office has said they are willing to go deep into the luxury tax, but it's one thing to say it and another to do it. I don't see how they keep the big four together longer than one more season, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Westbrook puts Cousins on a poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime L Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Relic said: Took Boogie 2 games and 90 seconds to get another technical foul. Pelicans are now 0-3 since he came on. Apparently it's impossible to win in the current NBA with shitty guard/wing play. In 2000, they'd be unstoppable. There's now 5 teams ahead of the Pelicans for the 8th seed...including the Kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Houston's shot charts this year are hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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