1000th Lord Commander Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 As we know and love, ASOIAF is a multi layered story, with many subtle nuances. So I would say it's entirely possible for a small (or big) detail or subtle joke to pass a person by, even on multiple rereads. What's yours? For me it was the interaction of Elmar Frey and Arya, with him bemoaning the loss of his princess, not knowing that Arya is right there. I only picked that up on the eighth or ninth reread, and laughed loudly once I did. For my wife, she missed the supposed appearnce of Sarella as Alleras. My sister missed the whole R+L=J thing. She took the characters at thier word that Ashara Dayne was Jon's mother. It was only after I read the books and mentioned it in passing that she realised the possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrinceThatKnewNothing Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I think the R+L thing is so easy to miss on your first read, I think for people that have only read the books since the show its been easier becuase the theories have come so much into light. But I wonder how many people actually picked up on it when the first book came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigella Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Tormunds member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 It took reading this forum to get the Frey pies - had no idea on the first read. Just thought Manderly was being a jovial fatman to ward off suspicion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I missed the identity of the Alchemist. And, I didn't understand how Pate died, until I read about the death of the insurance broker in Braavos. I also (surprisingly) missed Frey Pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMama Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I've literally read the entire series, book for book, 8 times over. And I still find new things on each reread. So god knows how much stuff I've missed along the way. It's countless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I also completely missed that LF and Lysa poisoned Jon Arryn, until the reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMama Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 One thing I did catch early on, without supporting research on forums like these, was the identity of the gravedigger on the quiet isle. I think it's all but canon we know who that is. But I also missed R + L = J in the first read or two. Too much stuff happening to get stuck in the weeds as you absorb the novels for the first time IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnj81 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I misses the identity of the grave digger, didn't realize who it was until I read the theory online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor Xyn Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, Sigella said: Tormunds member How could you miss something so huge? Har! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloubieBoulga Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 At my first read, I think I have seen absolutely nothing. I was just following the story and didn't imagine that there was so many riddles (I think I have only anticipate Jaime as the one who could kill Cersei with his golden hand). Once, I discovered on a forum the R+L = J, and then, I realized I couldn't have read nor understood the saga. So I have re-read, and re-read, and re-read, and each time, like others, I discover a new thing that I missed or that I misinterpreted the times before. There are always many details that I haven't yet understood/deciphered. But at my first read, I didn't ask absolutely no question; now, I have a brainstorming quite at each word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigella Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 56 minutes ago, Praetor Xyn said: How could you miss something so huge? Har! I was probably too scared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor Xyn Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Sigella said: I was probably too scared Rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I missed that Lysa and Littlefinger were responsible for Jon Arryn's murder, even after reading it. It wasn't until a re-read that I actually realized what Lysa was talking about. I also didn't catch on that Robert Strong was really Gregor Clegane, even though several characters had already figured it out. I knew Arya was Elmar's princess because I remembered that their betrothal was part of the Bridge-crossing deal. Pretty much the only mystery I actually picked up on was the identity of FArya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherFromAnotherMother Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, SeanF said: I also completely missed that LF and Lysa poisoned Jon Arryn, until the reveal. If you find someone who says they knew it was Petyr and Lysa (before the reveal) you have found yourself a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I missed the biggest hint that Daario has dragonblood. Didn't find it until I was doing research to prove he wasn't Euron or Benjen. Initially missed that MMD isn't saying Dany is barren but speaking from her knowledge that Dany will be dragged back to the Dosh Khaleen and never remarry, thus never having a chance to have any more children. Wasn't til after I finished that I realized Tyrion was going to take Casterly Rock for Dany by going through the sewers. I'm sure there are others but those are the ones I remember hitting me like a NERF ball to the head. I did know on my own, from the first book, that Ned was not Jon's father. Took me a bit to put the rest together though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Faegon Blackfyre. But in my defense I obviously had never read dunk and egg books or TWOIAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therae Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Sarella-Alleras. Never would have picked that up if I hadn't seen it here. Also Jaquen-Alchemist-fPate. I even remember thinking, huh, guess that guy wasn't dead after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandru Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 17 hours ago, Lady Blizzardborn said: Initially missed that MMD isn't saying Dany is barren but speaking from her knowledge that Dany will be dragged back to the Dosh Khaleen and never remarry, thus never having a chance to have any more children. Well, I missed it up until right now, when I read your comment. Thanks! These prophesies have more weasel words than a software usage agreement. At least the prophesies are CONCISE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigella Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 23 hours ago, Praetor Xyn said: Rightly so. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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