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The perfumed seneschal

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10 hours ago, Forlong the Fat said:

The most obvious problem is that Varys is not a "Seneschal." 

Not in the literal sense. Buts it's not a far jump 

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23 hours ago, Foot_Of_The_King said:

Not in the literal sense. Buts it's not a far jump 

Yes it is. He's not a metaphorical seneschal, either. For Varys to be the perfumed seneschal, that word has to have almost no meaning. 

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On 6/3/2017 at 0:20 PM, Greywater-Watch said:

Why making things always so complicated?  Reznak is the perfumed seneschal. It is obvious.

It seems obvious. All the others are very obvious. 

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On 19/04/2017 at 4:26 AM, OtherFromAnotherMother said:

I think a case can be made for Illyrio.

Seneschal: an officer having full charge of domestic arrangements, ceremonies, the administration of justice, etc., in the household of a medieval prince or dignitary; steward. Origin of seneschal. Middle French. Frankish. Medieval Latin http://www.dictionary.com/browse/seneschal

This appears to be Varys. But Varys is in league with Illyrio who was harboring Dany and Viserys at his manse prior to her betrothal to Khal Drogo.

Thoughts Dany has of Illyrio Mopatis in Chapter III Daenerys GoT is that of distrust. The above describes someone of Varys position, but there is more to Illyrio.  Illyrio uses perfumes too:

"Dany could smell the stench of Illyrio's pallid flesh through his heavy perfumes."

Dany's thoughts betray that she distrusts Illyrio:

"Dany had no agents, no way of knowing what anyone was doing or thinking across the narrow sea, but she mistrusted Illyrio's sweet words as she mistrusted everything about Illyrio."

Intriguingly Tyrion has thoughts of mistrust of Illyrio the "Cheesemonger" in Tyrion Chapter I ADWD:

"Any friend of Varys the Spider is someone I will trust just as far as I can throw him."

With all the organisation and pomp Illyrio goes to (arrange), to provide a ceremony (ceremonies) of Dany and Drogo, administer in justice according to local/cultural customs, having to do with a prince or dignitary (Drogo)....Illyrio with all the strings he is pulling, has to be the perfumed seneschal Dany is warned of by Quaithe.

Edited by Weirwood Ghost

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For what it's worth, Quaithe seems to be using 'beware' to refer to people in this passage in CoK. 

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Last of the three seekers to depart was Quaithe the shadowbinder. From her Dany received only a warning. “Beware,” the woman in the red lacquer mask said.

“Of whom?”

“Of all. They shall come day and night to see the wonder that has been born again into the world, and when they see they shall lust. For dragons are fire made flesh, and fire is power.”

Dany II

 

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