One-eyed Misbehavin Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 We know that it took awhile for the deal to bring in food to the wall (from Braavos or just coin to pay for said food) We know that the Wildlings are able to get to/climb the wall easier than ever. Jon's POV states the TREES have never been as close to the wall as they are right now. We know Braavos imports lumber for obvious reasons. We do not know much about the terms of the deal for food except it appears Jon was successful. Long OP short.... Why wouldn't Jon use the limitless trees on the other side of the wall to sweeten the deal? He even has men whose designated job includes sawing down trees that get too close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolbeard the Exile Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Don't think they have the men or time to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josette DuPres Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 The jewelry and valuables collected from the wildlings served for the downpayment on the loan. The rest to be paid regularly from incomes of the watch. Lumber can be that source of income as well as what they make from taxing the wildlings settled in the Gift. This is best-case scenario as we know the wildlings will resist paying taxes but Tycho doesn't know the free folk that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Beaudreau Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Josette DuPres said: The jewelry and valuables collected from the wildlings served for the downpayment on the loan. The rest to be paid regularly from incomes of the watch. Lumber can be that source of income as well as what they make from taxing the wildlings settled in the Gift. This is best-case scenario as we know the wildlings will resist paying taxes but Tycho doesn't know the free folk that well. I don't think John has thought about it this detailed. Jon knows the real enemy, the others, so i don't think he really care about trying to repay the debt. Besides Tycho will makes his way back to the wall and find out Jon is dead or died depending on where he goes and who he talks to. so the nights watch probably wont even get the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Beaudreau Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 2 hours ago, One-eyed Misbehavin said: Long OP short.... Why wouldn't Jon use the limitless trees on the other side of the wall to sweeten the deal? He even has men whose designated job includes sawing down trees that get too close I like your thinking here. I think its a little too late. Like some people said the Nights watch has bigger issues right now and don't really have men to spare just to become lumberjacks. I've posted about this several times over years about why does the Nights watch suck so bad. Pretty much since they were given the Gift by the good queen they have been declining in manpower, support, and reputation, eventhough everything she did was the opposite of that, she gave them more land and praise them for their honor and valor and all that shit. Why didn't any of the Nights Watch commanders do more to reform the Watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I would expect that access to resources is part of the deal, and that would include lumber. It would likely be a lot easier for Braavos to get lumber with NW assistance as guides and security not to mention having their permission to collect it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Coolbeard the Exile said: Don't think they have the men or time to do it. Yeah I completely agree but there's a necessity for both sides (food on one lumber the other) just saying Jon had a resource he might not have known of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 51 minutes ago, Nevets said: I would expect that access to resources is part of the deal, and that would include lumber. It would likely be a lot easier for Braavos to get lumber with NW assistance as guides and security not to mention having their permission to collect it in the first place. I agree I think it would be straight down the middle (with interest for the IB obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 4 hours ago, House Beaudreau said: I like your thinking here. I think its a little too late. Like some people said the Nights watch has bigger issues right now and don't really have men to spare just to become lumberjacks. I've posted about this several times over years about why does the Nights watch suck so bad. Pretty much since they were given the Gift by the good queen they have been declining in manpower, support, and reputation, eventhough everything she did was the opposite of that, she gave them more land and praise them for their honor and valor and all that shit. Why didn't any of the Nights Watch commanders do more to reform the Watch? Thank you I agree on all fronts actually. Youd think some newly elected leader would try to whip the men into shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Josette DuPres said: The jewelry and valuables collected from the wildlings served for the downpayment on the loan. The rest to be paid regularly from incomes of the watch. Lumber can be that source of income as well as what they make from taxing the wildlings settled in the Gift. This is best-case scenario as we know the wildlings will resist paying taxes but Tycho doesn't know the free folk that well. Ahh very nice you're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300 H&H Magnum Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Tycho is a businessman. Loans generate interests and that is how banks make their money. The Night's Watch can trade lumber as well as fur, game, and whatever income it can generate from the wildlings at Mole's town. Should Stannis take the throne, it is expected he would show generosity to the watch. The likelihood of making a profit out of the deal is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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