Maltaran Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, mormont said: Please try to bring a bit more to the table than some reheated Daily Mail letters page grumbling. That's a little harsh. Surely his posts are at least the standard of Daily Telegraph letters page grumbling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 It's not surprising then that someone who has spent their entire lives in university would take any criticism of university personally and hence get personal at those criticising it. also not surprising that their experience of the working / real world would be very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 NVM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Again, the Tories are still going to win*, but at this rate, Theresa May is going to displace Michael Dukakis as the most inept campaigner in a western democracy since WWII: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-poll-yougov-latest-jeremy-corbyn-tory-points-slashed-theresa-may-party-surge-a7756421.html *I'd bet on a Tory majority of 40 right now, but a Hung Parliament is now a viable possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 14 hours ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: It's not surprising then that someone who has spent their entire lives in university would take any criticism of university personally and hence get personal at those criticising it. Let me know if this happens. I'm just patiently pointing out your lack of any background in the subjects you're expounding upon. I don't take it 'personally', but clearly I do passionately believe in the importance of higher education, which is why I work in the sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Our political class seem to have devolved into all accusing each other of being terrorist sympathisers. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Watching the growing, horrified realisation by Conservative politicians and commentators over the last week or so that they may have royally fucked this up has been most entertaining. I agree they'll probably still win, and it's not even impossible they'll still get a reasonable majority (once we get to voting day and people either don't vote or relapse into Tory stockholm syndrome in the booth), but they've made this far worse for themselves than it had to be. "We're cruising to an easy victory. What should we do to solidify that victory?" "Blatantly falsify crowd numbers, use another Big Bus of Lies and slap a massive tax on our core base whilst removing their pension increases?" "Excellent. And shall we engage with a balanced and thorough critique of the Labour manifesto?" "No, we'll just call them uncosted whilst proposing our own uncosted proposals and call Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser as we have for thirty years to no discernible outcome. And hope people don't start drawing a link between a successful terrorist incident and massive cuts to the police and security infrastructure on our watch. Oh, and lets send Michael Fallon TV to be humiliated in detail by not knowing the difference between the Foreign Secretary and the Leader of the Opposition." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I only managed to hear bits and pieces of Any Questions last night, but David Davis didn't sound like he was having a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 If May wins the election with the same majority as now, or even a couple of seats down, do we think she'll have to resign? The embarrassment factor would be monumental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen'ari Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Werthead said: If May wins the election with the same majority as now, or even a couple of seats down, do we think she'll have to resign? The embarrassment factor would be monumental. We can live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Werthead said: If May wins the election with the same majority as now, or even a couple of seats down, do we think she'll have to resign? The embarrassment factor would be monumental. I wouldn't get your hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Even if she resigns, who would come in who is actually any good. Seems like incompetence is everywhere, in every party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Werthead said: If May wins the election with the same majority as now, or even a couple of seats down, do we think she'll have to resign? The embarrassment factor would be monumental. You are that eager to read the headline: "Primeminister Johnson welcomes President Trump"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Notone said: You are that eager to read the headline: "Primeminister Johnson welcomes President Trump"? Well, at least then Trump won't be that isolated at international meetings like the one in Sicily last week any longer. Although it's debatable if that might possibly constitute a positive development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen'ari Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Even if she resigns, who would come in who is actually any good. Seems like incompetence is everywhere, in every party. It seems a bit like the choice the US had last year, two awful candidates, neither of which you want in power and you'd be quite happy to let their predecessor carry on, not that I'm comparing Cameron to Obama directly at all, merely I'd much prefer him to still be PM than either May or Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Lord Sidious said: It seems a bit like the choice the US had last year, two awful candidates, neither of which you want in power and you'd be quite happy to let their predecessor carry on, not that I'm comparing Cameron to Obama directly at all, merely I'd much prefer him to still be PM than either May or Corbyn. But they had the President that wasn't: Sanders. May was never not going to win, even after Gove helpfully killed Boris' attempt. And Corbyn's opposition were so boring they wouldn't stand out on a beige carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Gabe Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 But surely Corbyn represents the Sanders position in our situation? The more left-leaning outsider. I mean, granted, Sanders has a heck of lot more natural charm but they represent the same political position, taking relativity into account, in their respective electoral spectra and surely using personality as a voting factor is surely a foolish method. Why anyone thinks Cameron was any better than May I'll never know. They're essentially the same. The only difference between them is that Cameron was better at plunging people contentedly into the pot of water to boil before turning up the heat. Even as a more Green-leaning voter, I'll be proudly voting Labour this election, especially because I personally know what a seriously nasty piece of work the Conservative MP in my constituency is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I don't suppose there are polls for individual constituencies are there? I just want to see who has the best chance of beating the Tories (though it's a safe seat), other than just by looking at the previous election results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, Stannis Eats No Peaches said: I don't suppose there are polls for individual constituencies are there? I just want to see who has the best chance of beating the Tories (though it's a safe seat), other than just by looking at the previous election results. Only a very small handful of constituency polls get done, and they are very unreliable. Previous election results are probably a better guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 My constituency was the only Scottish one to return a Labour MP in 2015, it'll go SNP or Labour, but i should think if the SNP couldn't take it in '15 they probably won't now. It's the first time I'm voting in a seat my preferred party has an actual chance in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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