Ser Scot A Ellison

Another issue with smoking...

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I was a smoker for about 20 years before I switched to vaping 3 years ago and never looked back.  I find it much preferable to smoking, and I definitely breathe better (and don't stink).  

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11 hours ago, Nas! said:

 Should I tell them how all of my heroes gave up or failed? Fuck Dr. Suess, kiddo, today we're reading Waiting for Godot.  That leaf? It is there to torment you, my child. Without the illusion of hope, there cannot be true despair.  

Dude, don't have children. Only a monster would choose Beckett over Suess.

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19 hours ago, Swordfish said:

Um...  That is exactly why insurance exists.  To spread that risk among many people.  This is why you have actuaries and underwriters.

 

 

So, those who've done nothing risky, can only reduce their costs by walking up to those who are not so cautious and smack them upside the head?  But the real question is if food products that contain arsenic, may not be sold, by law, why are products with known carcinogens permitted to be sold?

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5 minutes ago, Robin Of House Hill said:

So, those who've done nothing risky, can only reduce their costs by walking up to those who are not so cautious and smack them upside the head?  But the real question is if food products that contain arsenic, may not be sold, by law, why are products with known carcinogens permitted to be sold?

Cause 4 out of 5 Dentists recommend Viceroys for their patients who do smoke.

http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2011/07/21/2d5a85f8-a644-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/resize/620x465/e54676c64e46da491dcd55747f6e0398/dentistreccomendedL.jpg

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6 minutes ago, Robin Of House Hill said:

So, those who've done nothing risky, can only reduce their costs by walking up to those who are not so cautious and smack them upside the head?  But the real question is if food products that contain arsenic, may not be sold, by law, why are products with known carcinogens permitted to be sold?

Virtually everyone has some risk factors.  That's sort of the point.

Sugar is proven to cause diabetes.  Alcohol causes any number of health problems..

So...  Where does the banning begin and end?

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9 minutes ago, Swordfish said:

Virtually everyone has some risk factors.  That's sort of the point.

Sugar is proven to cause diabetes.  Alcohol causes any number of health problems..

So...  Where does the banning begin and end?

If someone uses a product that says it is hazardous to your health, that goes beyond normal risks.

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Just now, Robin Of House Hill said:

If someone uses a product that says it is hazardous to your health, that goes beyond normal risks.

Cars, guns, alcohol, parachutes, lawnmowers, motorcycles, airplanes, garbage disposals, ad infinitum.

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4 minutes ago, Robin Of House Hill said:

If someone uses a product that says it is hazardous to your health, that goes beyond normal risks.

Robin,

The problem is that once you exclude a group of people for "Behavior X" what happens when that group of people is denied healthcare?

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On April 21, 2017 at 7:43 AM, litechick said:

I hope you support vaping.

I thought that statistically smokers and fat people don't cost more in health care because they die younger.  If we, as a society, want to be truly ruthless and self serving we should cheer on the self destructive types who live to work and pay into the system and then die promptly at retirement age and don't collect.

I've been pointing this out for years but noone is bothering to think it through. The largest sums are spent on that uber expensive "end of life" care. Healthy types that live longer draw more resources out of the pool over the long run, the unhealthy ones that pay in for years but die off just before or after retirement age  are not the major expense drivers. I thank them for their sacrifice.:D

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