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On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 3:30 PM, Joe Pesci said:

THE JUICE IS LOOSE!!!

Well, in a few months that is. It's crazy to look back over twenty years ago at the OJ trial, I was a freshman in high school watching the verdict come in. Fuck I'm getting old.

I was sitting at a table at the Hard Rock Café in Orlando while in town for the National Beta Convention when the chase interrupted the NBA Finals on the TV behind us.  Funny what sorts of things are always burned into our memory.

FWIW, I think being released is the right thing to do here.  He wasn't in jail because he held up some guys at a hotel in Vegas, he was in jail in an attempt to make up for the fact that our justice system acquitted him for a double murder.  

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Jason Garrett on releasing Lucky Whitehead after he was arrested

Here's the gem from Garrett: "When you have someone in your program, in this environment, in this structure, and they don't grow and develop and they make the same mistakes over and over again, it's time to move on."

Then the next day when you find out he was misidentified and was innocent like he told you prior to releasing him, and still won't just come clean...

Now I get that this is simply just how it is in sports in general these days. If you have high end talent, you get a job or keep your job despite your wrongdoings (I've seen it here in Pittsburgh), but don't be the guy to swell up your chest about releasing someone after they were arrested for allegedly shoplifting like you're making a moral stand and have a standard of conduct on your team when you have signed Greg Hardy, and just this year have had two DE's suspended for substance abuse violations, a CB arrested for DUI, a LB charged with 2 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, all the stuff going on with Zeke, yet all of these guys are on the team still because of their talent being greater that Whitehead's. Jason Garrett is fucking laughable.

 

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1 hour ago, Joe Pesci said:

Jason Garrett on releasing Lucky Whitehead after he was arrested

Here's the gem from Garrett: "When you have someone in your program, in this environment, in this structure, and they don't grow and develop and they make the same mistakes over and over again, it's time to move on."

Then the next day when you find out he was misidentified and was innocent like he told you prior to releasing him, and still won't just come clean...

Now I get that this is simply just how it is in sports in general these days. If you have high end talent, you get a job or keep your job despite your wrongdoings (I've seen it here in Pittsburgh), but don't be the guy to swell up your chest about releasing someone after they were arrested for allegedly shoplifting like you're making a moral stand and have a standard of conduct on your team when you have signed Greg Hardy, and just this year have had two DE's suspended for substance abuse violations, a CB arrested for DUI, a LB charged with 2 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, all the stuff going on with Zeke, yet all of these guys are on the team still because of their talent being greater that Whitehead's. Jason Garrett is fucking laughable.

 

 

It's 100% fact that he was released for Ezekiel Elliot's transgressions.

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What a bizarre story, I've never been caught shoplifting But I can't imagine id say I was an individual the cops could Google. 

Wouldn't mind the Colts giving him a look, could use a return man.

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Whitehead is anything but Lucky. Let's look at his last two weeks:

  • Dog gets kidnapped, held for ransom.
  • Falsely accused of shop lifting and skipping court.
  • Cut by Cowboys, a top 5 team.
  • Claimed on waivers by the Jets, a bottom 5 team.

I think that nickname needs to go.

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So about four days ago, my buddy sent me an IM responding to a trade offer I'd sent him a few weeks earlier in our dynasty league.  That trade?  My Kenneth Dixon and a 2018 1st for his Sammy Watkins.  I sent him the official offer the next morning.  The trade became official in our league yesterday about an hour before the news dropped that Dixon would miss the entire year with a knee injury, which completely destroyed all of his dynasty value.

I don't even know what to think right now.  It's the kind of lucky shit that never happens to me in fantasy.  :lol:

8 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Whitehead is anything but Lucky. Let's look at his last two weeks:

  • Dog gets kidnapped, held for ransom.
  • Falsely accused of shop lifting and skipping court.
  • Cut by Cowboys, a top 5 team.
  • Claimed on waivers by the Jets, a bottom 5 team.

I think that nickname needs to go.

Eh...if you're a borderline roster cut caliber receiver, I'd probably rather be on the Jets right now.  The Jets have opportunities galore for shitty players to prove themselves and earn some money.  The Cowboys?  Not so much.

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7 hours ago, briantw said:

Eh...if you're a borderline roster cut caliber receiver, I'd probably rather be on the Jets right now.  The Jets have opportunities galore for shitty players to prove themselves and earn some money.  The Cowboys?  Not so much.

Maybe at other positions, but not WR. The Jets QB situation is dreadful. 

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1 minute ago, Tywin et al. said:

Maybe at other positions, but not WR. The Jets QB situation is dreadful. 

Beat me to it. There are certainly more opportunities since the Jets just have Enunwa and a bunch of #4 receivers, but who's going to get him the ball, behind what line? A bigger piece of the pie sounds nice until you find out what's in the pie.

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30 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

Beat me to it. There are certainly more opportunities since the Jets just have Enunwa and a bunch of #4 receivers, but who's going to get him the ball, behind what line? A bigger piece of the pie sounds nice until you find out what's in the pie.

Yup. The only question is who will be worse, the Bears or the Jets?

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Oh my. Belichick is tired of being asked how players look before padded practices.

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So I know everybody’s all excited when a guy catches a pass, but when the defense doesn’t jam him or they’re not allowed to really, because we don’t want heavy contact out there, aren’t competing for contact at the end of the play then it’s not quite the same as when all of that’s going on. I’m not taking anything away from the receivers. I’m not taking anything away from anybody. I’m just saying it is what it is. The competitive level out there is not what it’s going to be starting tomorrow, so to evaluate players competitively when they’re not on a competitive level, I have a hard time with. But I know a lot of the people are real good at that and they can make a lot more out of it than I can, but due to my personal limitations and my personal inability to make those evaluations, I don’t make them. 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/29/bill-belichick-scoffs-at-evaluating-players-before-the-pads-are-on/

 

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Ahhhh the most wonderful time of the year on the boards... how many more weeks does this season of the show have?!!?

Anyways... I guess I'm just not cut out to be a NFL fan.

Cheapest lower bowl tickets to Indy vs SF are in the end zone and over $200 each.  

I HAVE disposable income and I'm not willing to pay that even though SF only comes to our area every few years.  Don't really understand how families do that week in and week out.

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4 minutes ago, Rhom said:

Ahhhh the most wonderful time of the year on the boards... how many more weeks does this season of the show have?!!?

Anyways... I guess I'm just not cut out to be a NFL fan.

Cheapest lower bowl tickets to Indy vs SF are in the end zone and over $200 each.  

I HAVE disposable income and I'm not willing to pay that even though SF only comes to our area every few years.  Don't really understand how families do that week in and week out.

Agreed. I'm doing pretty well financially, but I'm not shelling out more than $100 a ticket. I was priced out when the Niners moved to Santa Clara.

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3 minutes ago, Rhom said:

Ahhhh the most wonderful time of the year on the boards... how many more weeks does this season of the show have?!!?

Anyways... I guess I'm just not cut out to be a NFL fan.

Cheapest lower bowl tickets to Indy vs SF are in the end zone and over $200 each.  

I HAVE disposable income and I'm not willing to pay that even though SF only comes to our area every few years.  Don't really understand how families do that week in and week out.

I feel like going to NFL games is always less fun than I expect it to be.  Granted, I don't live in the city of the team I root for any more, so I am already not all that interested in going to games for that reason, but tickets are overpriced and drinks/food are heinously overpriced, not to mention that, if it's hot, it's horribly uncomfortable.

Generally speaking, I'd rather just go to a decent bar with a lot of TVs, get to see all the games instead of just one, and eat and drink for significantly cheaper.

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Cheapest tickets are in the nosebleeds for $81 each.  If I'm sitting that far away, I don't see any reason to go.

I feel like the NFL really is marketing it's live product to corporations and the subsect of the populace with no financial budgeting skills.

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