Werthead Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sounds like Nick Clegg might be out in Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Wow, Salmond has lost her seat for the SNP? As has been said Salmond is the old leader, Sturgeon the new. Sturgeon isn't an MP, she's an MSP (Member of Scottish Parliament.) But no Scottish seats have declared yet, this is just based on the Exit Poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTuesday Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, The BlackBear said: As has been said Salmond is the old leader, Sturgeon the new. Sturgeon isn't an MP, she's an MSP (Member of Scottish Parliament.) But no Scottish seats have declared yet, this is just based on the Exit Poll. That said, it is looking like the SNP leader in Westminster Angus Robertson is gonna lose his seat, so that would be a blow to the SNP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Safe to say that there can now be no plausible* mandate for a second referendum on Scottish independence. *unless you are a politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Conservatives fail to take Wrexham. That's an important one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denstorebog Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Knowing little about UK politics, I have to ask a dumb question - if UKIP are getting eviscerated, it must be because the Tories have started toying with xenophobia? At least that's how it is here - the supposedly moderate conservative parties prevent bleeding to far-right parties by having a couple of aggressive, high-profile xenophobes creating sensationalist headlines once in a while. So did the Tories grab the racists, or did the racists just sit this one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 That woman speaking elvish really slows up the declaration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, The BlackBear said: That woman speaking elvish really slows up the declaration. Just be grateful it was Sindarin and not Quenyan. Or indeed, Entish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, denstorebog said: Knowing little about UK politics, I have to ask a dumb question - if UKIP are getting eviscerated, it must be because the Tories have started toying with xenophobia? At least that's how it is here - the supposedly moderate conservative parties prevent bleeding to far-right parties by having a couple of aggressive xenophobes creating sensationalist headlines once in a while. So did the Tories grab the racists, or did the racists just sit this one out? BIt of both, and some of them will have gone Labour. They've won their battle, we're leaving the EU, both major parties are committed to leaving the EU with stricter controls on immigration. This election is now about public services, the qualities of the leaders etc. And less about migration, therefore the UKIP vote has collapsed and plenty of those voters are actually natural working class Labour voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, denstorebog said: Knowing little about UK politics, I have to ask a dumb question - if UKIP are getting eviscerated, it must be because the Tories have started toying with xenophobia? At least that's how it is here - the supposedly moderate conservative parties prevent bleeding to far-right parties by having a couple of aggressive xenophobes creating sensationalist headlines once in a while. So did the Tories grab the racists, or did the racists just sit this one out? as little as i know about UK politics myself, i got the impression ukip's losses are probably due more to post-brexit, as that was ostensibly their thing (the racism was a bonus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour draw SNP first blood Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, denstorebog said: Knowing little about UK politics, I have to ask a dumb question - if UKIP are getting eviscerated, it must be because the Tories have started toying with xenophobia? At least that's how it is here - the supposedly moderate conservative parties prevent bleeding to far-right parties by having a couple of aggressive, high-profile xenophobes creating sensationalist headlines once in a while. So did the Tories grab the racists, or did the racists just sit this one out? Very early to say. UKIP voters are deserting UKIP because the job has been done - with Brexit now going on. It is being debated on TV (BBC) about whether the UKIP voters were either disillusioned Labour or right wing Tories, and are now returning to their 'true' allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Is that the first gain of the night? Labour gain from SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Slick Mongoose said: Is that the first gain of the night? Labour gain from SNP. This might suggest the Exit Poll really is accurate in Scotland. The Tory vote did seem to rise a lot in that constituency, ironically they may have contributed to Labour winning that seat. On the other hand the early Welsh result seem better for Labour than the Exit Poll suggested, so I'm not really sure what exactly to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Slick Mongoose said: Is that the first gain of the night? Labour gain from SNP. More gains being unofficially reported by BBC now. Didn't catch where they were, but included Labour taking Sheffield from Nick Clegg (who is having almost as bad a couple of years as David Cameron). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Massive vote increase in Tooting for Labour, if that keeps up across London lots of Tories will be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denstorebog Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 So far, this is like a cathartic mirror image of the US election night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Mhairi Black manages to hold on for the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Mhairi Black has been a real star since she was elected, pleased she's been returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just had a bit of a we dream, given Rudd's seat being under threat... How safe is May's seat? Please, please tell me it's in with a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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