Lord Varys Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, TMIFairy said: No, not realistic. But that's what GRRM gave us I believe I read somewhere that GRRM expressed regret at not splitting the nobility further. I'd bet good money on that - with hindsight - he'd change more than one thing in the first book. Sure, that was my entire point. And he is actually messing around with what he has established earlier on by introducing new titles and giving new houses much more fancy titles than the houses he introduced early. Just look at the string of the titles Lord Manderly uses or the titles the Hightowers of Oldtown get in the appendix of AFfC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 1 hour ago, TMIFairy said: No, not realistic. But that's what GRRM gave us I believe I read somewhere that GRRM expressed regret at not splitting the nobility further. I'd bet good money on that - with hindsight - he'd change more than one thing in the first book. So Spake Martin: Quote The number of titles of medieval nobility multiplied over times, as the feudal system became more complex and the social structure more layered, with various degrees of precedence, etc. In the earlier periods -- say, England around the time of Henry I and William II Rufus -- all those different titles did not exist. I prefered the simplicity of those times. In hindsight, I probably should have added a least one more title to differentiate the great houses from their vassals, but I am glad I stayed clear of using the whole roster of noble stylings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMIFairy Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, Nittanian said: So Spake Martin: Thanks! To misquote a certain Stormtrooper - "this is the quote we were looking for" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaak Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 7 hours ago, Lord Varys said: Now, this isn't the case in Westeros. In Westeros, the great lords of the Realm are the only lords who only have one liege lord in the king. All the others have other lordly liege lords as well as responsibilities to the king. Not quite. A position shared by Darklyns, Hayfords, Stokeworths, Crabbs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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