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Loved the first episode... FX is really pushing the envelope with this show, but I don't think they could pull it off otherwise.

It's about the early days of the crack cocaine epidemic in Los Angeles ....  and the CIA's involvement while trying to fund the Contras in Nicaragua ... it takes place in the early 1980s..... during the Reagan administration...

Created by John Singleton... it looks like it has major potential. .... the lead.... Damson Idris... is a really talented young actor.... the show hinges on him... and he really pulls it off.

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1 hour ago, Martini Sigil said:

Loved the first episode... FX is really pushing the envelope with this show, but I don't think they could pull it off otherwise.

It's about the early days of the crack cocaine epidemic in Los Angeles ....  and the CIA's involvement while trying to fund the Contras in Nicaragua ... it takes place in the early 1980s..... during the Reagan administration...

Created by John Singleton... it looks like it has major potential. .... the lead.... Damson Idris... is a really talented young actor.... the show hinges on him... and he really pulls it off.

The straw? :)

I enjoyed it as well. Some intriguing characters and potential arcs.

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Based on both of your posts I gave this a shot today.  Very impressed, I've been waiting for a new TV program, and this series holds a lot of promise.  Can't recommend it enough, excellent in so many ways so far.

There were many subtle things that reminded me a lot of Boyz in the Hood, a film that was very popular with my crowd when I was in high school when it came out - low and behold I read and find out John Singleton is behind Snowfall.

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Very good.  I loved the nostalgic golden sunlight suffusing the scenes in South Central (which looked much more pleasant than in Boyz In The Hood).  Lots of characters introduced, no doubt in converging arcs eventually.  Really well written, directed and acted.  It didn't open with a bang but established some opening interest and tension for each of the three main story lines. 

I'm looking forward to more. 

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Decent episode. The plot thickens. Enjoying Gustavo's arc the most, but primarily interested in seeing the CIA arc.

I'm telling myself Avi's inconsistent characterization is due to too much cocaine use. At one point he's paranoid about Teddy wearing a wire and at another people are just entering his house with seemingly no security. He gives Franklin his inconspicuous gold-trimmed Rolls-Royce to drop his man at the hospital? Avi is either extremely careless, stupid or just a loose cannon. I'll lean towards loose cannon until further evidence.

That ending was expected after the scene at the club. Franklin needs to wise up to the game. Idris was excellent again.

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God damn.... maybe its me... but this is a really good show thus far... 

terrific exchange between teddy and Avi...... and teddy and Lucia.... Gustavo is a really interesting character.... and Franklin's story just sucks you in 

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Well, Franklin was going to have to get his hands dirty eventually. His arc this episode was excellent. Waiting to see how much he changes throughout the season.

Didn't care too much for Teddy's relationship, but it does humanize him a bit. The Tehran bits were interesting.

Gustavo's scenes were a bit slow. And Pedro is a chump.

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To my misfortune and regret, last night was the first episode I watched in it's entirety.. and I haven't even seen most of the pilot which is making it hard to follow along (I have no idea what's going on with the wrestler and the lady).

But I am getting VERY positive vibes from what I've seen so far. This show is good right? 

 

Edit: Spelling and stuff.

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9 minutes ago, WarGalley said:

To my misfortune and regret, last night was the first episode I wanted in it's entirety.. and I haven't even seen most of the pilot which is making it hard to follow along (I have no idea what's going with the wrestler and the lady).

But I am getting VERY positive vibes from what I've seen so far. This show is good right? 

It's only 3 episodes in, but so far I would say it's very entertaining and intriguing.

Yeah, Gustavo and Lucia's arc is the least straight forward so far. If you don't mind the spoiler :

Spoiler

Lucia and Pedro hired Gustavo to rob their organized crime father so they could use the cash to buy drugs for their dealing operation. Gustavo ended up killing one of their father's henchmen during the robbery. Now their father knows it was an inside job and wants answers. Gustavo, Lucia and Pedro are now trying to frame someone else for the robbery. I'm really interested in seeing how this arc converges with that of Franklin's and Teddy's.

You can watch the three aired episodes online on FX if you have a cable account.

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There will come a time when Franklin crosses the line... eventually he'll understand that he can't be in the life without being violent... and I feel bad for whoever is the person that prompts that change in him...

Seriously.... How cute was teddy's kid?

Gustavo is a more complex character than I thought he was going to be... there's a lot going on inside his head... you think he's just a brute at first... but he is smarter than Pedro... who, btw... is a douche.

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I caught up on eps 2 and 3.  Really very good.  I was terrified for Franklin as he was being set up and then got further into trouble.  It was so obvious but he doesn't have the instinct yet and he needs to learn fast.  Gustavo is a good character but his moral fixation is a bit odd.  Obviously Lucia will grow to rely on him and they'll eventually clash with Pedro.  Teddy's story is good for bringing a different angle.   Franklin's mom and family are a fascinating culture story outside of the central drug story.  

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This latest episode's predictability irked me a little. It was obvious Popeye was a spy and also entirely too predictable that Karvel wasn't dead and Franklin and Leon would have to kill him. Also didn't like how Gustavo, Lucia and Pedro's murder of their father's associate was only described briefly in conversations. It was built up last week and then just skimmed over this week. And please don't tell me Franklin is getting out of the game this week only to jump right back in next week because he has to help his mom.(I am jumping to this conclusion based on the preview for next week) I really don't care for this trope.

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I wanted Karvel to go out better than that...  He's such a piece of shit that he deserved a more graphic end...

Obviously.... Franklin will be back... and my guess, is with a vengeance... I expect it will have something to do with the hottie in Ari's pool

Pedro is not long for this world... he can't handle it... Lucia will give gustavo the nod, and the big fella will end his bitch ass....lol

I liked the Teddy in the jungle scenes... and killing the kid off camera was the right move.... unlike karvel, there was no real payoff for that...we barely knew the kid...

Leon singing "even the nights are better" by Air Supply in the car to cover for Karvel banging in the trunk was really funny...

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Excellent. Now the arcs are starting to intersect. Really enjoyed this week after last week's Independence Day episode.

I thought last week's episode was a bit slow, Singleton seemed to be more interested in adding in grooving at the July 4th party.  And the LAPD encounter was completely unnecessary, especially with Franklin's mom's party not skipping a beat after the encounter.

This week  I really enjoyed the extra tension added to the character arcs with the dead girl's family sending out flyers and Leroy and Ray Ray wanting payback. Loved Gustavo/Lucia and Franklin running into one another while fishing for a new connection to sell to. Also nice to see Bokeem Woodbine again after Fargo s2.

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The intersecting arcs were important at this point in the season...  I love how --knowing what we know about the rise of crack, Nicaragua, and the drug trade in general-- all of the main characters are in the infancy of their arcs... seeing how they get to where (we think) they are going is really entertaining... 

The Leroy and Ray Ray revenge subplot is wrought with anticipation.... Franklin should survive... but at what cost?... 

Love Bokeem Woodbine in everything he's in

....this was a really strong episode

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I'm still enjoying it but it's a very slow build and I spend a lot of time worried for Franklin.  

We all know there are potentially huge arcs ahead for these characters but, in an age of so many competing TV shows, I'm surprised that the pacing on all the arcs is so slow.  I doubt this is building a big audience. 

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