Mark Antony

Football: Silly season

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1 hour ago, JordanJH1993 said:

Think Ronaldo was unlucky with the second red; it didn't look to me like he was trying to win a penalty. One of those instances where the ref should have just let play carry on - no dive, no penalty, either. It's similar to Willian's yellow for a 'dive' against Arsenal in the Community Shield. I thought that incident was neither a penalty nor a dive.

Ronaldo was stupid for pushing the ref, though. Daily Mail saying he could get up to a 12 game ban, but I can't imagine him getting any more than 3, if any at all, given he is Ronaldo and plays for Real Madrid.

The ref was rubbish but Ronaldo really should not be this petulant at his age. 12 game ban is never going to happen. I expect a 3-5 game ban. The second yellow for simulation was harsh especially considering Suarez's blatant dive which got him a penalty.

 

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PS, I can't believe he recreated Messi's celebration against Real Madrid at the Bernabau. It fuels the idea that Ronaldo has an obsession with Messi.

I think he is enjoying having a little dig at Messi who has been his greatest rival. Especially now since Real currently have the best team in the world (which has not been the case for the bulk of his Madrid career) while Barca are going through a transition.

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7 minutes ago, Consigliere said:

I think he is enjoying having a little dig at Messi who has been his greatest rival. Especially now since Real currently have the best team in the world (which has not been the case for the bulk of his Madrid career) while Barca are going through a transition.

Petulant, in my eyes. Although, when it comes to Ronaldo, that word is almost a synonym.

When Messi scored at the Bernabau, it was a late winner in a league game to get Barca closer to Real Madrid. The celebration was impromptu and spontaneous. Ronaldo wasn't in his thoughts when he held up his own shirt.

When Ronaldo does that celebration, it can only be seen as contrived, planned and a needless dig at Messi. Forget Messi, Ronaldo. You've won La Liga and the Champions League this year. You've won the next Balon D'or already. There's no need to copy Messi's celebration - create your own.

I'm a big Ronaldo fan, but he always does something that lowers himself as a person. Stuff like his comments about Iceland players at the Euro's springs to mind.

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4 minutes ago, JordanJH1993 said:

 

Petulant, in my eyes. Although, when it comes to Ronaldo, that word is almost a synonym.

When Messi scored at the Bernabau, it was a late winner in a league game to get Barca closer to Real Madrid. The celebration was impromptu and spontaneous. Ronaldo wasn't in his thoughts when he held up his own shirt.

When Ronaldo does that celebration, it can only be seen as contrived, planned and a needless dig at Messi. Forget Messi, Ronaldo. You've won La Liga and the Champions League this year. You've won the next Balon D'or already. There's no need to copy Messi's celebration - create your own.

I'm a big Ronaldo fan, but he always does something that lowers himself as a person. Stuff like his comments about Iceland players at the Euro's springs to mind.

Who are we or anyone to know what is in Ronaldo's thoughts? His celebration could have been just as spontaneous as Messi's. This is the annoying thing about the Ronaldo/Messi comparison. Messi is often portrayed as the 'good guy' when he can a petulant ass as well - he's just more subtle about it while the worst is immediately assumed of Ronaldo.

 

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2 minutes ago, Consigliere said:

Who are we or anyone to know what is in Ronaldo's thoughts? His celebration could have been just as spontaneous as Messi's. This is the annoying thing about the Ronaldo/Messi comparison. Messi is often portrayed as the 'good guy' when he can a petulant ass as well - he's just more subtle about it while the worst is immediately assumed of Ronaldo.

 

I'm not saying Messi is without an ego. When you are one of the two best players in the world, you will definitely have one. It just always seems to appear that Ronaldo has more of a problem with Messi than Messi does with him. It was Ronaldo, after all, that had to publically deny that he had been calling Messi offensive names in training, not the other way round. Of course, there is no proof that he did it, but he had to deny it, not Messi.

Look, neither men are going to be best friends. They are the two best players in a generation - maybe even of all time - competing against each other for the two biggest clubs in the world, in the most famous rivalry both individually and club-wise in the game. But I much prefer when I hear either of the two saying something positive - a rare occasion, but they have done - about the other than I do seeing petty playground petulance.

At least it generates some hilarious memes, if nothing else.

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4 minutes ago, JordanJH1993 said:

I'm not saying Messi is without an ego. When you are one of the two best players in the world, you will definitely have one. It just always seems to appear that Ronaldo has more of a problem with Messi than Messi does with him. It was Ronaldo, after all, that had to publically deny that he had been calling Messi offensive names in training, not the other way round. Of course, there is no proof that he did it, but he had to deny it, not Messi.

Look, neither men are going to be best friends. They are the two best players in a generation - maybe even of all time - competing against each other for the two biggest clubs in the world, in the most famous rivalry both individually and club-wise in the game. But I much prefer when I hear either of the two saying something positive - a rare occasion, but they have done - about the other than I do seeing petty playground petulance.

At least it generates some hilarious memes, if nothing else.

The bolded is further proof that the worst is immediately assumed of Ronaldo. Messi would never have to deny something like that because St. Messi would never be accused of ever doing something like that.

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And so it appears Barcelona have finally solved the problems in their midfield with the signing of superstar midfield enforcer... Paulinho.

I know he's a better player than his Tottenham days showed, but come on - the guy has spent the last few years in China. I highly doubt playing in that league has set him up to lead Barca's charge to regaining a La Liga and Champions League title.

But, hey, I'd take him in Chelsea's midfield next weekend away to Tottenham at Wembley.

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Man, I thought that rumour was bullshit until it actually happened. This Barca board are utterly clueless. You have to be a special kind of stupid to spend 40 mil on a 29 y/o average Paulinho and not even bid for Seri, especially when you already have the issue of an aging team. And what is this going to mean for Sergi Roberto? He has a low buyout clause and there were rumours of United considering triggering it. La Masia graduates tend to be very loyal to Barca but this signing could make him think hard about his future at the club.

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4 minutes ago, Consigliere said:

Man, I thought that rumour was bullshit until it actually happened. This Barca board are utterly clueless. You have to be a special kind of stupid to spend 40 mil on a 29 y/o average Paulinho and not even bid for Seri, especially when you already have the issue of an aging team. And what is this going to mean for Sergi Roberto? He has a low buyout clause and there were rumours of United considering triggering it. La Masia graduates tend to be very loyal to Barca but this signing could make him think hard about his future at the club.

If I were Sergi Roberto, I'd already be thinking about leaving Barca. I thought he was younger, but the guy is 25. He's been shifted about from midfield to full back to wing back so often that no one really knows what he is anymore. If Sergi Roberto isn't going to be given his chance at centre midfield for Barcelona by 25, and they are still bringing guys like Paulinho and Andre Gomes in to play there, I don't think there is much chance it's going to happen at all for him.

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5 games for CR. Seems slightly lenient but not ridiculously so. 

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William Carvalho in talks for a move to West Ham... Pretty unusual transfer.

For the past five summers he's been linked to mainly Arsenal, but also the likes of Man United, Chelsea, Liverpool. I've only seen him for Portugal and never rated him much, tbh. West Ham looked very soft in the centre yesterday, so could work out as an impressive coup for them, despite the fee potentially reaching £40m when add-ons are included.

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Latest rumors has Chelsea wanting Oxlaid-Chamberlain for 35m. I'd do that deal. I don't see Chamberlain improving much. He has moments of brilliance but his football IQ seems to be stuck in neutral. You'll see him make 2-3 great moves then screw up the final ball. It has happened so much over the last few years that it's hard for me to believe it'll get better. It could just be Wenger and that Conte would bring out his best. If that's the case then good luck to him in his future.

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6 minutes ago, Mexal said:

Latest rumors has Chelsea wanting Oxlaid-Chamberlain for 35m. I'd do that deal. I don't see Chamberlain improving much. He has moments of brilliance but his football IQ seems to be stuck in neutral. You'll see him make 2-3 great moves then screw up the final ball. It has happened so much over the last few years that it's hard for me to believe it'll get better. It could just be Wenger and that Conte would bring out his best. If that's the case then good luck to him in his future.

It's strange that he wants to leave. This will be his seventh season at Arsenal and he still hasn't cemented his place in the starting XI, nor has he established what his best position is. It would make more sense for him to want to leave Arsenal if it was to go to a club where he could get more minutes. Moving to Chelsea, he would face the same issues he has at Arsenal.

Right now, though, I'd take just about anyone at Stamford Bridge, so come along, Ox! Come along, Danny Drinkwater! Come along, Stewart Downing...

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He should leave. It's better for him to leave ( he's only going to play wing back in our system). If they are willing to pay anywhere close to that amount of money, we should sell. 

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Yeah, we should really do a bit more cleaning house in this transfer window. The Arsenal squad is still bloated (we've got 12 first team backs, for goodness sake...maybe Wenger is stocking up for the injury crisis) and 33 in the first team squad overall, which is a bit overkill.

I would be all for selling some of them (Ox, Debuchy, Jenkinson/Gibbs, Joel Campbell, and perhaps even Walcott and Wilshere) and getting a single really top, young player in like Lemar or somesuch. He still has to think ahead 12 months to when we'll almost certainly be minus Sanchez and possibly minus Ozil.

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Premier League clubs to vote on having the transfer window close in the week before the start of the 2018/2019 season. The Premier League would be acting unilaterally here so it would mean that players can still be sold to overseas clubs until the August 31 deadline but EPL clubs would not be able to sign anyone once the season gets underway.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/14/transfer-revolution-window-shut-premier-league-season-starts/

 

 

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