[Spoilers] Rant and Rave Without Repercussion

[Le Cygne]

Still no mention of dead Rickon. Or of Davos' dead son, killed via St. Tyrion's wildfire at Blackwater.

(And now that he gets a line or two, Davos is reduced to wingman for the fire wight and his auntie.)

[SuperMario]

28 minutes ago, Bear42 said:

This type of error has become more and more common in the series and it completely pulls me out of the immersion every time.  The way that bolt shot at Drogon means Bronn would've needed to be cranking on that thing for an hour to put in the amount of work needed to produce such a velocity.

There are many other instances of this type of nonsense that drive me crazy...

-Last episode Grey Worm threw a spear at a Lannister soldier in Casterly Rock and the guy goes flying backwards and gets pinned against a wall.  Apparently that particular guy just didn't happen to posses any mass.

-During the Battle of the Bastards there is a part where a soldier comes at Jon from the background on horseback and Jon hits him with a swing of Longclaw causing the rider to be thrown backwards off of his mount like he just took a canonball to the chest.  Judging from this instance it is clear that Longclaw must weight north of 300 pounds to produce such an interaction between moving objects.  I shudder to think what Jon could do to a curveball.

-Slightly different but the same vein is Jaime sinking 20 feet deep into a puddle.  His horse was running through the water during the charge so it was about ankle deep at that point, he gets knocked a few feet to the side and now it looks like they dropped him in the ocean.  Only logical answer is that it was in fact some type of infinity pool, probably built by the Children of the Forest cause why not.

Good points. To go along with your physics discussion, how about tiny Arya being able to parry Brienne's down swinging sword strikes with a small little fencing sword when Brienne is swinging a large training broadsword?

[Rockroi]

I think Game of Thrones has a simple formula: bad character development + unbelievably stupid activity by those characters x the ease in which characters are able to accomplish their goals at all times must be < the visceral energy of the battle at the end of the episode.  

Because D&D have always learned the wrong lessons: Hardhome and Battle of the Bastards are not your goals.  

Anyway, kind of a fund and terrible episode:

What I liked:

The Awkwardness of the Starks: I think that Bran is so creepy its now funny; Arya is outrageously out of place and Sansa is so busy leading that she does not have the emotional energy to be the difficult older sister.  The show has done- and I mean this - a fantastic job of showing how damaged these characters are now, even though they are now far more powerful -- and with that power comes responsibility, distance and closure (ie: the process of becoming closed off to others). 

When we met Arya she was this lovable tomboy; Bran the adventurous scamp; Sansa the prissy believer in fairy-tales.  That was in the pilot.  LITERALLY that's the last time the three have been together.  Now?  They are now all infinitely more powerful - Arya is the greatest sword-fighter in the land (more on that later); Bran is the Three-Eyed Raven and Sansa is the Lord in the North.  Well with all that power comes a monumental inability to relate to one another.  Bran is a freak-show: he can see everything and that sort of knowledge is tremendously problematic; Arya is a sociopath who has killed more people than tuberculosis and Sansa fed a guy to his own dogs.  They are now, hopelessly, out of touch with each other.  They no longer feel the bonds of family or kinship.  Power, distance, time, pain, and loss have frayed them forever.  Now, sure, they are not exactly going to feed each other to Dany's Dragons, but they are no longer able to be a family.  The show did a great job of revealing that.  No, you can never go home again... 

The Battle of the Baggage: We finally got to see a full, adult dragon wreak HAVOC in Westeroes; a fucking fantastic scene that kept me guessing the whole time.  I really thought Jaime was dead, but somehow I am cool with the miracle that saved him. Jaime, I thought, was great - I thought sure, he seemed somewhat wooden at certain points, but the scene were Drogon turns men into ashes, the face Jaime makes is almost "I spent my whole life trying to make sure THAT EXACT THING never happened..."  The Lannisters- despite what some Dothrakai onlookers may have thought, I thought fought well against an army that 1) outnumbered them and 2) had, you know, a dragon.  And props to Bronn for being 6 kinds of lunatic awesome.  

But ... yeah.. .dragons... Huge.  Flying.  Full of fire.  That was great.  

(Honorable Mention: Jaime rides his horse on the edge of the river- horse up to its ankles in water.  3 seconds later Bronn- miraculously, saves Jaime from certain death by riding up to him and knocking him away from the fire, knocking him into the water.  Water is suddenly 40 feet deep).  

What I am on the Fence About:

So... Bran Knows When I Masturbate?:  So he has seen and will see everything?  I mean. I know that magic is, well, magic, so its not bound by any rules, but doesn't that sort of destroy ANY need to LEARN anything?  I mean, if you have a question, just go to Bran and say "So, did Cersei kill Robert or was it the Boar?"  What are the boundaries to that power?  None, right?  So, if there are no boundaries, is it interesting?  Well... no. He knows everything about anything anyone said... ever...  To me, that's just the show-runners saying "Look, we have so many unanswered questions that we have to reveal, lets just force-puke it through Bran.  Great writing guys; Confederate is definitely going to suck.

Ice and Fire... But Really Mostly Ice: I got ZERO magnetism and charm between Dany and Jon.  Like none. These two great actors have absolutely no chemistry together.  I think they replaced the two actors with mannequins or something.  If the show wants me to think that they end up together, they will need to add in more CGI than that last fight scene.  The show is failing at a thing that requires it to be creative, talented and deft... three things this show is now terrible at.  So, yeah, again, Confederate is going to suck.

Honorable Mention: So... I love how Jon Snow tells Dany "Look, don't just burn people and things with your dragons..."  so Dany proceeds to do exactly that.  Remember the way Jon ignored Sansa's advice and won?  And how Robert ignroed Ned at the Trident?  Apparently the key to winning battles in Westeroes is to completely ignore Stark advice.  

Arya > Brienne > The Hound: Yeah, whatever.  One poster up-thread said that the Arya fan-service to Arya porn.  Macy Williams ways, what, 85 pounds?  She is going against one of the most experienced swords-people in the Seven Kingdoms who is something like 6-feet tall, weights probably 225 pounds, She has strength, reach and stamina.  Give, Me. A . Break.  I get that we are seeing two great fighters, but, really, Arya's strength is not supposed to in face-to-face fighting, but in stealth and deception.  Again, much like Bran, her powers have grown disproportional to the character - so much so that they can do anything, be anywhere and kill anyone.  That is not interesting.  

Don't get me wrong- if there is a cadre of characters in Westeroes who EARNED their powers its Arya and Bran.  They suffered so much that they deserve some pay off.  But the show has shown an inability to make that transition, interesting.  And that is a failure.  

What I Hated:

They Have Pegasus - That's The Only Explanation I Have: Horses are not tanks: you can't just land them on a beach and be cool with it.  Horses eat.  They eat a lot.  They are hard to keep in order in large teams; they spook, they get hurt etc.  Apparently, that does not apply to Dothrakai horses. So, for starters, they have traveled from Essos to Westeros by ship and landed on a volcanic rock.  WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY EATING!???!  You need a fuck-ton of food for them!  No explanation.  They then are, somehow, able to land on the Westeros mainland and coordinate a massive strike against an experienced army (not a huge stretch), and, somehow, coordinate with a dragon- a creature they have never fought with before.  Oh, and they are also, apparently, fireproof.  

How come nobody saw them coming?  Just moments before, we hear Lord Tarly say that scouts told him that the gold is safely within the Walls of the Red Keep.  Great.  How did scouts tell him THAT news, but somehow missed the massive Dothrakai horde and dragon mere moments away?  How did the fleet landing just a few miles from KL go so unnoticed?  

Because there is no way to stop this train now.  It was FUCKING AWESOME seeing a dragon burn people alive.  But make no mistake- the show is no longer tethered to conventional devices like layered story-telling, character development or time and space; the show simply needs to stuff everything out there and does not acre if it makes any sense or comes out even in the right order.  

The Battle of the Baggage was another scene that looked great, felt awesome and was utterly vapid, made no sense and only exists because the story has to be told quickly, not well.  

That's Game of Thrones - lots of powerful images, told quickly, but not very well.  

 

[legba11]

I get what the writers are going for with Bran.  Either the writers or the actor (likely both) can't pull it off.  It comes off as comically bad cinema we should be watching with 3 silhouettes riffing it.

I will accept that Arya can fight Brienne.  She is a super hero and has been trained by the best.  Brienne is a 2nd tier hero, thus less powerful.  However, she would fight her by stealth and dodging.  There is no way she could parry that sword with needle.  I still liked the scene, though.

Dany is coming off very poorly.  I don't think that is their intent. 

Why is Dickon's face so small?  He looks like someone made on a stupid app.

They go out of their way to mention that Dany needs supplies.  So she spends the battle destroying all the supplies she is about to take from the Lannisters.

The Iron Bank plot is beyond stupid.  It was smarter to just leave it as an abandoned plot thread. 

How did Tyrion get to the battle?

Why is Varys, a master of the subtler game not using Cersei's destruction of the faith as leverage to incite the people of Westeros against her?  After what she did, it would take little work to have the people of King's Landing in full riot mode.

So Jaime, Bronn, Randal Tarly all forget to have scouts protecting their very vulnerable crossing ?   Or did these scouts not notice the screaming Dothraki horde landing on their shores?  I am kind of picturing the guards from Holy Grail watching Lancelot charge.

Meera deserved a better farewell than that.  At least give her a good scene with Arya or something.

[SeanF]

8 minutes ago, Rockroi said:

I think Game of Thrones has a simple formula: bad character development + unbelievably stupid activity by those characters x the ease in which characters are able to accomplish their goals at all times must be < the visceral energy of the battle at the end of the episode.  

Because D&D have always learned the wrong lessons: Hardhome and Battle of the Bastards are not your goals.  

Anyway, kind of a fund and terrible episode:

What I liked:

The Awkwardness of the Starks: I think that Bran is so creepy its now funny; Arya is outrageously out of place and Sansa is so busy leading that she does not have the emotional energy to be the difficult older sister.  The show has done- and I mean this - a fantastic job of showing how damaged these characters are now, even though they are now far more powerful -- and with that power comes responsibility, distance and closure (ie: the process of becoming closed off to others). 

When we met Arya she was this lovable tomboy; Bran the adventurous scamp; Sansa the prissy believer in fairy-tales.  That was in the pilot.  LITERALLY that's the last time the three have been together.  Now?  They are now all infinitely more powerful - Arya is the greatest sword-fighter in the land (more on that later); Bran is the Three-Eyed Raven and Sansa is the Lord in the North.  Well with all that power comes a monumental inability to relate to one another.  Bran is a freak-show: he can see everything and that sort of knowledge is tremendously problematic; Arya is a sociopath who has killed more people than tuberculosis and Sansa fed a guy to his own dogs.  They are now, hopelessly, out of touch with each other.  They no longer feel the bonds of family or kinship.  Power, distance, time, pain, and loss have frayed them forever.  Now, sure, they are not exactly going to feed each other to Dany's Dragons, but they are no longer able to be a family.  The show did a great job of revealing that.  No, you can never go home again... 

The Battle of the Baggage: We finally got to see a full, adult dragon wreak HAVOC in Westeroes; a fucking fantastic scene that kept me guessing the whole time.  I really thought Jaime was dead, but somehow I am cool with the miracle that saved him. Jaime, I thought, was great - I thought sure, he seemed somewhat wooden at certain points, but the scene were Drogon turns men into ashes, the face Jaime makes is almost "I spent my whole life trying to make sure THAT EXACT THING never happened..."  The Lannisters- despite what some Dothrakai onlookers may have thought, I thought fought well against an army that 1) outnumbered them and 2) had, you know, a dragon.  And props to Bronn for being 6 kinds of lunatic awesome.  

But ... yeah.. .dragons... Huge.  Flying.  Full of fire.  That was great.  

(Honorable Mention: Jaime rides his horse on the edge of the river- horse up to its ankles in water.  3 seconds later Bronn- miraculously, saves Jaime from certain death by riding up to him and knocking him away from the fire, knocking him into the water.  Water is suddenly 40 feet deep).  

What I am on the Fence About:

So... Bran Knows When I Masturbate?:  So he has seen and will see everything?  I mean. I know that magic is, well, magic, so its not bound by any rules, but doesn't that sort of destroy ANY need to LEARN anything?  I mean, if you have a question, just go to Bran and say "So, did Cersei kill Robert or was it the Boar?"  What are the boundaries to that power?  None, right?  So, if there are no boundaries, is it interesting?  Well... no. He knows everything about anything anyone said... ever...  To me, that's just the show-runners saying "Look, we have so many unanswered questions that we have to reveal, lets just force-puke it through Bran.  Great writing guys; Confederate is definitely going to suck.

Ice and Fire... But Really Mostly Ice: I got ZERO magnetism and charm between Dany and Jon.  Like none. These two great actors have absolutely no chemistry together.  I think they replaced the two actors with mannequins or something.  If the show wants me to think that they end up together, they will need to add in more CGI than that last fight scene.  The show is failing at a thing that requires it to be creative, talented and deft... three things this show is now terrible at.  So, yeah, again, Confederate is going to suck.

Honorable Mention: So... I love how Jon Snow tells Dany "Look, don't just burn people and things with your dragons..."  so Dany proceeds to do exactly that.  Remember the way Jon ignored Sansa's advice and won?  And how Robert ignroed Ned at the Trident?  Apparently the key to winning battles in Westeroes is to completely ignore Stark advice.  

Arya > Brienne > The Hound: Yeah, whatever.  One poster up-thread said that the Arya fan-service to Arya porn.  Macy Williams ways, what, 85 pounds?  She is going against one of the most experienced swords-people in the Seven Kingdoms who is something like 6-feet tall, weights probably 225 pounds, She has strength, reach and stamina.  Give, Me. A . Break.  I get that we are seeing two great fighters, but, really, Arya's strength is not supposed to in face-to-face fighting, but in stealth and deception.  Again, much like Bran, her powers have grown disproportional to the character - so much so that they can do anything, be anywhere and kill anyone.  That is not interesting.  

Don't get me wrong- if there is a cadre of characters in Westeroes who EARNED their powers its Arya and Bran.  They suffered so much that they deserve some pay off.  But the show has shown an inability to make that transition, interesting.  And that is a failure.  

What I Hated:

They Have Pegasus - That's The Only Explanation I Have: Horses are not tanks: you can't just land them on a beach and be cool with it.  Horses eat.  They eat a lot.  They are hard to keep in order in large teams; they spook, they get hurt etc.  Apparently, that does not apply to Dothrakai horses. So, for starters, they have traveled from Essos to Westeros by ship and landed on a volcanic rock.  WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY EATING!???!  You need a fuck-ton of food for them!  No explanation.  They then are, somehow, able to land on the Westeros mainland and coordinate a massive strike against an experienced army (not a huge stretch), and, somehow, coordinate with a dragon- a creature they have never fought with before.  Oh, and they are also, apparently, fireproof.  

How come nobody saw them coming?  Just moments before, we hear Lord Tarly say that scouts told him that the gold is safely within the Walls of the Red Keep.  Great.  How did scouts tell him THAT news, but somehow missed the massive Dothrakai horde and dragon mere moments away?  How did the fleet landing just a few miles from KL go so unnoticed?  

Because there is no way to stop this train now.  It was FUCKING AWESOME seeing a dragon burn people alive.  But make no mistake- the show is no longer tethered to conventional devices like layered story-telling, character development or time and space; the show simply needs to stuff everything out there and does not acre if it makes any sense or comes out even in the right order.  

The Battle of the Baggage was another scene that looked great, felt awesome and was utterly vapid, made no sense and only exists because the story has to be told quickly, not well.  

That's Game of Thrones - lots of powerful images, told quickly, but not very well.  

 

As Old Gimlet Eye said, one has to assume that Dothraki hordes and dragons are so common in Westeros that it didn't occur to the scouts that they might attack.

[SerMixalot]

the show is so BORING!

[SerMixalot]

Meera, you are too good for this show

[SerMixalot]

Why is everyone such a dick!?

[Ser Quork]

2 hours ago, Nerevanin said:

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Do you mind to elaborate? Because IIRC, LF met Roose in S5 when Arya was in Braavos. Or do you mean LF meeting Tywin back in S2 when Arya was in Harrenhall? If you mean the meeting of LF and Tywin, I suppose that mentioning it would achieve little to nothing because everyone knows that LF used to serve the Crown / the Lannisters, while now, as Sansa said, he declared for House Stark.

Yes, I do mean back in S.2 when LF met Roose to plot the Red Wedding.  Arya wouldn't have understood it at the time (why a Lannister courtier was meeting one of Robb's bannermen) but it would be great to see her working that out.  As a related point, does declaring for House Stark absolve him of his complicity in arranging the murder against guest right of so many, including Arya's mother and brother? I don't think so.  Especially if it also becomes known about his personal betrayal of Ned.

2 hours ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

Had at minimal, Dorne been introduced with a certain Princess and since The Golden Company is actually being mentioned, a certain other potential claimant to the Iron Throne.

I think that D&D&C are overly invested in Lena Headey and nothing personal, but that is a mistake, the story is supposed to be bigger than the characters or any one character. The show differs.

Also, the Sansa ripple effect from Season 5 still Haunts this show.

I agree.

1 hour ago, JordanJH1993 said:

It's a shame that all the problems with Cersei's lingering presence could have been dealt with if they had just added Young Griff to the story in season 5. Cersei would have been long gone by now and we'd actually have a leader that the smallfolk wouldlove on the Iron Throne, which would make it a lot more interesting when Daenerys comes to claim the throne from a good ruler as opposed to trying to claim it from one who as good as commit genocide, but somehow still has enough of a following to retain her throne.

Again, agreed.

10 minutes ago, Rockroi said:

 

That's Game of Thrones - lots of powerful images, told quickly, but not very well.  

 

^^ 

[SerJeremiahLouistark]

Why is there still a stag on Kings Landing in the intro.  Cersei has taken all stags down and there is only Lannister Lions everywhere, no Baratheon banners.  But in the opening credits a stag is still on top of Kings Landing.  

I also don't like Jaime anymore in the show.  Book Jaime wouldn't be just going along with all the shit Cersei is doing.  I wouldn't have been disappointed if he and Bronn would have gotten burned to death by Drogon.  

I also think it's stupidness D&D said in the review you don't know who to root for in the battle.  Was anyone rooting for the Lannisters?  I sure as Fuck wasn't.  In fact just the opposite.  I was hoping for no survivors.  And the reason why is because of what they did to Jaime, just being cool with everything Cersei has done in her iron throne quest.  

[Lord Freypie]

Good episode for the battle and Starks reunion but....

Wow, Littlefinger finally does something.... and it's giving his dagger to Bran to remind the Starks to think about how the war started... Such a mastermind he even manipulate people to organize his own suicide.

Missy-Dany girls talk... One instant I expected/suspected Dany was going to try to get confirmation about "just the roots or the tree too ?" and finally solve that big mystery about eunuchs which, since season one, is one of the major and most recuring themes of the show . Sadly the dialog was interrupted, likely they are keeping the big reveal for season 8 (?).

Jon in a cave with Dany... I expected the showmakers would have realised the parallel and included some lines reminding us Jon and Ygritte to prepare the future J+D love story, Of course they completely missed the occasion and just made them repeat their previous dialog with some added absurdity (if Dany now believes in the threat, where's the importance of making Jon bend the knee before helping him ; if she doesn't help she'll lose the north anyway). You know nothing Jon Snow even cave paintings won't make her forget to ask you to bend the knee !

"Enough with clever plans !" ... What about making Dany say "let's make Westeros great again", it would be even more US-presidential. Anyway was kind for Tyrion to say his plans were clever considering how they turned, and she had just accused him to be a traitor.

Jon's speech about burning cities.... He forgot to say "a wise man once said" before quoting Tyrion. I hope Tyrion didn't felt insulted.

Arya showing her new skill to Brienne... Considering her formation in the show could be resumed by "being bitten with a stick" are we supposed to restart to suspect she's not Arya but the Kindly Man in disguise (also being Syrio Forel, Howland Reed, Daario and show version of Darkstar).

LF reaction shot to Arya's training... To show he has chosen her for his own suicide plan ?

Battle.. superb, but don't Dothraki know how to turn around enemies instead of charging into shield walls (or fire walls) when there's space around ?

Battle... superb, but aren't horses afraid of dragons or at least of fire, even just a little I don't know.

Battle... superb, but if they are carrying the Qyburn's scorpion in case they are attacked by dragons why is the machine not manned and why are they waiting for their first line to be burned to think about using it ?

Tyrions reactions to battle.... Sweet summer child. Sweet sweet summer child. Yes it's how war look, when you support the side using fire. You don't remember the Blackwater or what ?  Are we supposed to believe Tyrion is just realising war make victims and he's on the side opposed to his family, and/or is so unable to hide his emotions he shows an horrified face to his Dothrakis guards when Lannisters are burning while he's already suspected to be a traitor (btw are these guards Tyrions' bodyguards or guarding a possible traitor ? is Dany's plan to burn her failed hand after the battle, would finally give a good reason to his presence there considering he's not fighting nor commanding).

After two seasons where his motivation was unclear reminding us that Bronn is still a mercenary only following Jaime because he wants rewards... only to make him chose to abandon the gold and heroically save Jaime in same episode. If they wanted to make Bronn's choices a twist making him appear like a mercenary instead of Jaime's best friend for two seasons would perhaps have been better storytelling.

[Lurid Jester]

10 hours ago, SerProle said:

A few show only people asked about that at my house, I was impressed. Why would the Children ever have been on Dragonstone? 

For the dragonglass I'm assuming.  It seems to be important to them and their mysticism for some reason. 

Mother than that maybe there was a forest there before the Targaryens took it to build their fortress. 

[The Scabbard Of the Morning]

12 minutes ago, SerJeremiahLouistark said:

Why is there still a stag on Kings Landing in the intro.  Cersei has taken all stags down and there is only Lannister Lions everywhere, no Baratheon banners.  But in the opening credits a stag is still on top of Kings Landing.  

I also don't like Jaime anymore in the show.  Book Jaime wouldn't be just going along with all the shit Cersei is doing.  I wouldn't have been disappointed if he and Bronn would have gotten burned to death by Drogon.  

I also think it's stupidness D&D said in the review you don't know who to root for in the battle.  Was anyone rooting for the Lannisters?  I sure as Fuck wasn't.  In fact just the opposite.  I was hoping for no survivors.  And the reason why is because of what they did to Jaime, just being cool with everything Cersei has done in her iron throne quest.  

In their mind, not knowing who to root for meant you wanted to root for all of them. But in my mind, it's because I want to root against all of them so technically it's true that "I don't know who to root for"

[SerJeremiahLouistark]

tCotF were all over Westeros before the first men came.  

[SerJeremiahLouistark]

3 minutes ago, The Scabbard Of the Morning said:

In their mind, not knowing who to root for meant you wanted to root for all of them. But in my mind, it's because I want to root against all of them so technically it's true that "I don't know who to root for"

Their minds must not work because I really can't see a scenario where I thought this was a battle amongst good guys on both sides.  Show Jaime has lost all credibility and respect in my mind.  Him just blindly following Cersei after she did exactly what he killed Aerys for is baffling to me.  And I'll cheer when he finally dies.  Book Jaime is way more likeable.  

[Robert Baratheon's hammer]

I was rooting for Jamie and Bron the whole time haha.

So many questions though. 

Firstly, surely she could just fly to the red keep without killing large amounts of people? Didn't Aegon the Conqueror or his sisters do it at the Eyrie? Tyrion say's they don't want her to kill too many people yet she just roasted an army and took a castle ( Casterly Rock ). How many dead there? Obviously in war there is death but since they wanted as little death as possible she could have just flown her dragon to the red keep, burn Cersei guards and then Cersei. Just like that the war is over. That wouldn't make good TV though. I'm sure they could find way of making it interesting.

The show are really pushing Jon and Danny now, it's only a matter of time before unite the kingdoms with a marriage. Ice and Fire indeed with a sprinkle of incest. 

Littlefinger is really puzzling me with his actions this season. In fact he been confusing me since he sold Sansa to the Boltons. His character has been on a steady downward spiral since. What was he thinking giving Bran the dagger? Wouldn't that pose a few questions? Just like the crypts where he was taunting Jon about Sansa, there seemed know logic to this. The biggest shock of this season will be if littlefinger survives. 

I actually like motionless Bran even though it came very suddenly. Having taken in all that info in such a short space of time it make sense for him to sound like a computer.

Brienne and Arya training scene was impressive. But I do wonder wouldn't Brienne be a bit more careful with a stark? She was swinging to kill with Arry having no Armour, just imagine she had executed Arya in front of Sansa. 

Oh and Why was Tyrion at the battle?

Overall the episode contained its usual plotholes but it was very visually pleasing as I have come to expect. I did think Bron was a goner and feared for Jamie but both survived. I think. It would have been nice if Danny got injured or her Dragon died to make it more interesting but hey.       

[Robert Baratheon's hammer]

Oh I forgot how did the Dothraki cross without being seen by anyone?

[Snormund]

1 hour ago, SeanF said:

Surely all that Mel had to do was wave her wand over it and say "engorgio."

Hermione taught her that one. 

[SerJeremiahLouistark]

3 minutes ago, Robert Baratheon's hammer said:

I was rooting for Jamie and Bron the whole time haha.

So many questions though. 

Firstly, surely she could just fly to the red keep without killing large amounts of people? Didn't Aegon the Conqueror or his sisters do it at the Eyrie? Tyrion say's they don't want her to kill too many people yet she just roasted an army and took a castle ( Casterly Rock ). How many dead there? Obviously in war there is death but since they wanted as little death as possible she could have just flown her dragon to the red keep, burn Cersei guards and then Cersei. Just like that the war is over. That wouldn't make good TV though. I'm sure they could find way of making it interesting.

The show are really pushing Jon and Danny now, it's only a matter of time before unite the kingdoms with a marriage. Ice and Fire indeed with a sprinkle of incest. 

Littlefinger is really puzzling me with his actions this season. In fact he been confusing me since he sold Sansa to the Boltons. His character has been on a steady downward spiral since. What was he thinking giving Bran the dagger? Wouldn't that pose a few questions? Just like the crypts where he was taunting Jon about Sansa, there seemed know logic to this. The biggest shock of this season will be if littlefinger survives. 

I actually like motionless Bran even though it came very suddenly. Having taken in all that info in such a short space of time it make sense for him to sound like a computer.

Brienne and Arya training scene was impressive. But I do wonder wouldn't Brienne be a bit more careful with a stark? She was swinging to kill with Arry having no Armour, just imagine she had executed Arya in front of Sansa. 

Oh and Why was Tyrion at the battle?

Overall the episode contained its usual plotholes but it was very visually pleasing as I have come to expect. I did think Bron was a goner and feared for Jamie but both survived. I think. It would have been nice if Danny got injured or her Dragon died to make it more interesting but hey.       

See I'm the opposite, I would have liked to have seen Jaime and Bronn both get roasted, thought that would have made it more interesting.  

[Song of Zombies v. Dragons]

The GPS tracker that every army has on every other army has completely defeated the point of any scenes relating to war strategy or the movement of supplies, troops, etc. Imagine playing a game of Risk where at any moment you could teleport your entire army wherever you wanted to and just randomly attack anyone. That is what the show has become. Every episode so far this season someone has moved their entire army a ridiculous distance that makes no sense whatsoever and for some reason nobody ever sees these armies coming or does anything to stop them. Do scouts no longer exist in this world? This is seriously ridiculous.

 

Completely agree with everyone that the Cersei plotline is probably the worst thing going on in the show right now because it makes literally ZERO sense. In a perfect world following the walk of shame Cersei's story would've started wrapping itself up in a logical way and Jaime would eventually kill her (what is what I presume will happen in the books). Jaime's character arc has been butchered beyond belief and is probably irreparable at this point but a few seasons ago we were on the right track. Not sure what happened. 

 

The writing in the show is just garbage. Plain and simple. When the Jon/Dany romance started being hinted at last night everyone in my watch group just groaned.