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if 2 heads of houses are married - are the houses merge?

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On 8/13/2017 at 7:26 PM, Lady Blizzardborn said:

There is no guarantee that the daughter then becomes the heir though. If Lord Alric has a nephew named Philbert, he could be Oakheart heir. Particularly if it was understood when Alenna married the heir to Lord Fossoway that her children would be considered Fossoways, not Oakhearts.

However, assuming there is no nephew or other distant male relative, the most likely outcome is not a merger of the two houses, but Alenna's second or third son being named Oakheart heir and taking the Oakheart name when he goes to live at Old Oaks.

 

Just to kick it around a little further. So we have Ser Arwen, the Oakheart heir, safely married to Rynne Rowan, daughter of Lady Rowena of House Rowan (just because I want it to be a lady regnant of Goldengrove for no real reason), Lady Alenna is married to Theos Fossaway, new Lord of New Barrel..... and - plot twist- there was a third Oakheart sibling, a younger sister, umm, Arwyse.

Ser Arven corks off on schedule within our imaginary scenario before siring any little acorns in his Rowan wife. Lady Alenna has given her Fossaway husband three children,  Jon, the heir to New Barrel, his little brother Joss, and a new baby girl, Jennet. 

Old Lord Oakheart has a spare heir(ess), the teen aged daughter Arwyse. Nothing much of a dowry was set aside for her (Alenna as the oldest daughter got the fat dowry to attract a high ranking husband... Lord Oakheart was thinking of pushing his extra daughter into the Faith) , so she has no husband or fiance from a middling house to push for her.

If Lady Alenna knew the deal when she married into House Fossaway (that she was quitting her claim to Old Oaks), but then her brother died, even though she is well situated as Lady of House Fossaway, could she attempt to exclude her little sister Arwyse in favor of one of her sons? And what would be preferable to Tyrell HQ?   This is where the reciprocal duty between the Tyrell overlord and his Oakheart vassal kicks in (they are supposed to safeguard and enforce valid inheritance claims).  Suppose that Lady Arwyse does have her own promised husband, a lesser Florent son, or even an heir to a third tier house so now we have the Fossaways vying against that other family - what's a wise Lord of Highgarden to do?

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2 hours ago, Daena the Defiant said:

Just to kick it around a little further. So we have Ser Arwen, the Oakheart heir, safely married to Rynne Rowan, daughter of Lady Rowena of House Rowan (just because I want it to be a lady regnant of Goldengrove for no real reason), Lady Alenna is married to Theos Fossaway, new Lord of New Barrel..... and - plot twist- there was a third Oakheart sibling, a younger sister, umm, Arwyse.

Ser Arven corks off on schedule within our imaginary scenario before siring any little acorns in his Rowan wife. Lady Alenna has given her Fossaway husband three children,  Jon, the heir to New Barrel, his little brother Joss, and a new baby girl, Jennet. 

Old Lord Oakheart has a spare heir(ess), the teen aged daughter Arwyse. Nothing much of a dowry was set aside for her (Alenna as the oldest daughter got the fat dowry to attract a high ranking husband... Lord Oakheart was thinking of pushing his extra daughter into the Faith) , so she has no husband or fiance from a middling house to push for her.

If Lady Alenna knew the deal when she married into House Fossaway (that she was quitting her claim to Old Oaks), but then her brother died, even though she is well situated as Lady of House Fossaway, could she attempt to exclude her little sister Arwyse in favor of one of her sons? And what would be preferable to Tyrell HQ?   This is where the reciprocal duty between the Tyrell overlord and his Oakheart vassal kicks in (they are supposed to safeguard and enforce valid inheritance claims).  Suppose that Lady Arwyse does have her own promised husband, a lesser Florent son, or even an heir to a third tier house so now we have the Fossaways vying against that other family - what's a wise Lord of Highgarden to do?

If little Joss becomes lord of Old Oaks, one assumes his father would be his regent (or lordly equivalent). I think that might depend on Lord Tyrell's relationship with the current crop of apples, both green and red. Also, if it comes down to a boy lord vs a female heir with a betrothed in his prime, I wonder if Arwyse would take precedence. What was it Rose Bolton said about boy lords? (But then consider the source, so....)

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