northern_amnesia Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Quote "He has a song," the man replied. "He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire." Dany IV ACOK Quote "But if he was this prince that was promised, the promise was broken along with his skull when the Lannisters dashed his head against a wall." Dany V ACOK She was going to be Prince Rhaegar's wife, no matter what the woman said. Her father had promised it, and Tywin Lannister's word was gold. Rhaegar was in fact the “promised prince”. He was promised to Cersei by Tywin. Rhaegar fulfilled all the signs in the prophecy. Except the prophecy can’t be trusted; they have funny ways to be fulfilled I you think about, had Rhaegar married Cersei instead of Elia, none of this would have happened. Jaime wouldn’t have been in the kingsguard, Tywin would have been hand. As JonCon realized, had Tywin been in command, Robert would have probably died. So, Rhaegar is the person responsible of all that happened. Dany got her dragon’s egg because of Rhaegar’s actions. So Rhaegar is the person responsible of the dragons returning- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern_amnesia Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Lew Theobald said: Prophesy should be treacherous, not anticlimactic. We are talking about a guy that was obsessed with prophecy and was actively trying to fullfil it. How is that anticlimatic? It's like oedipus, when he was determined to found out who was responsible of killing the king, and it was him. That's the point of how treacherous prophecies can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern_amnesia Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lew Theobald said: If the point is that "the joke's on him" Really? a guy that fulfills a prophecy because he completly miss understand it, for me makes a lot of sense of the role that prophecy has in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 8 hours ago, northern_amnesia said: Rhaegar was in fact the “promised prince”. He was promised to Cersei by Tywin. By that logic every Prince that ever becomes engaged is "promised" A prophecy is meaningless if it can be applied to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Crypt Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Anyone who believes in prophecy and guides their life by it, appears to die in their pursuit of fulfilling it. Following prophecy leads to your early death I believe. If Rhaegar had no knowledge of the prophecy, he would likely be alive today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I actually always liked Rhaegar as TPTWP because he lived and died as a prince, whereas even if gender is removed Dany is a queen, even if he is real Aegon has declared himself King, and Jon will in all likelihood become a king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaywolf123 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 My take on it - Prophecy can be trusted and do foreshadow events in mysterious ways (it is planned by the wirter. Prophecy is also a tool of foreshadowing whos goal is to make readers look for clues and become more intrested in book*s*.) - Prophecy should not be trusted, there have been many prophecies in the real world who was wrong if not most! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Never, people has a tendency to see in prophecy what they wish to see . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormourne Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Prophecies should always be scrutinized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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