Hibee87 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 This may have been covered, and I can't say im 100% sure on the exact prophecy but is it possible that THE HOUND is Azor Ahai? This thought came to me after last nights episode. I recall something about being 'reborn' in fire (you could poetically say he was reborn in fire when the mountain burned his face) The fact he didn't die when Arya left him suggests he still has a major role to play. He saw the flames telling him to go north. And lastly, which is pure speculation at the moment but may tie in is the upcoming battle north of the wall. IF, Thoros (im sure its him who has that fire sword) is killed and drops it. events may unfold and the hound is forced to pick this up - light bringer? I am probably totally wrong, but thought it may be worth discussing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkBastard Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Beric Dondarrion has the flaming sword in the show. The prophecy states that he will be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone. I don't see this as Sandor Clegane. Jon may pick up Beric's flaming sword, and the darkness may flee before him. Sandor is not the right character to fulfill this prophecy, and he hasn't had a pov chapter in the books...etc. People sometimes think that Azor Ahai will be the same as the original (Nissa Nissa and all that) but the story of the original Azor Ahai will not replay exactly as it did in legend (forging Lightbringer for example): In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him." Come again, pull a sword from the fire, that sword will be Lightbringer. Much open to interpretation, but how would Sandor wake dragons from stone? Only Daenerys has done that. No one knows for sure what will come of all this, but my money is not on Sandor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaNymeriaVisenya Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Gendry is Azor Ahai as foreshadowed by the joke about Davos smuggling ham. Gendry is the ham. This is of course a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibee87 Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, DarkBastard said: Beric Dondarrion has the flaming sword in the show. The prophecy states that he will be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone. I don't see this as Sandor Clegane. Jon may pick up Beric's flaming sword, and the darkness may flee before him. Sandor is not the right character to fulfill this prophecy, and he hasn't had a pov chapter in the books...etc. People sometimes think that Azor Ahai will be the same as the original (Nissa Nissa and all that) but the story of the original Azor Ahai will not replay exactly as it did in legend (forging Lightbringer for example): In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him." Come again, pull a sword from the fire, that sword will be Lightbringer. Much open to interpretation, but how would Sandor wake dragons from stone? Only Daenerys has done that. No one knows for sure what will come of all this, but my money is not on Sandor. Aww man, I thought I was onto somthing. Thanks for the explination though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illiterati Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, AryaNymeriaVisenya said: Gendry is Azor Ahai as foreshadowed by the joke about Davos smuggling ham. Gendry is the ham. This is of course a joke. I think gendry too. He's a swordsmith. He literally pulls burning swords from a fire on the daily.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkBastard Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Illiterati said: I think gendry too. He's a swordsmith. He literally pulls burning swords from a fire on the daily.... Lightbringer is already forged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurid Jester Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 54 minutes ago, DarkBastard said: Lightbringer is already forged. And it knows nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, DarkBastard said: Lightbringer is already forged. Indeed and he just turned the Tarlys into ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hustle Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 55 minutes ago, Lurid Jester said: And it knows nothing... lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illiterati Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Lurid Jester said: And it knows nothing... I agree with this assessment. Lightbringer is a sword of flesh and bone. A sword in the darkness, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurid Jester Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Illiterati said: I agree with this assessment. Lightbringer is a sword of flesh and bone. A sword in the darkness, so to speak. And it named itself in season 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illiterati Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lurid Jester said: And it named itself in season 1. And if it is true, then Azor Ahai has come and gone, and the red witches are chasing a ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurid Jester Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Illiterati said: And if it is true, then Azor Ahai has come and gone, and the red witches are chasing a ghost. It just means the Azor Ahai/PtwP did his/her duty and forged Lightbringer to stand against the darkness. Just feels very Martin that the chosen one died before the series started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddard Scissorhands Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 On 15-8-2017 at 10:15 PM, Lurid Jester said: It just means the Azor Ahai/PtwP did his/her duty and forged Lightbringer to stand against the darkness. Just feels very Martin that the chosen one died before the series started. I'm lost. What are you guys referring to? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illiterati Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Eddard Scissorhands said: I'm lost. What are you guys referring to? :/ A major spoiler theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakin1013 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Illiterati said: A major spoiler theory. Mind sharing the theory? without the spoilers? I thought I had read most of the lightbringer theories (Dawn, Knights Watch, Dragons, BlackFyre) but what you are saying does not seem to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddard Scissorhands Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, Illiterati said: A major spoiler theory. still lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deminelle Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Jon Snow is my guess for Azor Ahai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurid Jester Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Eddard Scissorhands said: still lost The theory is below, though I'm not sure why it would be called a spoiler unless someone knows something I don't know. Jon Snow is Lightbringer Rhaegar was tPtwP/Azor Ahai Lyanna was Nissa Nissa Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddard Scissorhands Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Lurid Jester said: The theory is below, though I'm not sure why it would be called a spoiler unless someone knows something I don't know. Jon Snow is Lightbringer Rhaegar was tPtwP/Azor Ahai Lyanna was Nissa Nissa Reborn Oh like that. Oops I didn't realize. I agree. I was looking for some intricate clues in Season 1. I don't think this is a spoiler, since Lightbringer was never even addressed in the show. So fun speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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