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32 minutes ago, dmc515 said:

I think @The Anti-Targ cut off quoting the Merriam-Webster definition at the most important part:

In that sense, no, we inarguably are not all bigots.

The reason I cut that bit off is firstly because it's an illustrative explanation, not actually part of the definition. But also because Nazis are "members of a group". If you cast a net wide like that, then is lends credence to the argument that we're all bigots. The important criteria are contained within the formal definition element.

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I had to correct my prior post if you care to check it.

These Nazi wannabes are fruit loops. My saying that makes me a bigot by definition.

To try to have a meaningful conversation about the motivation  of the off the wall survivalists, gun toting goof balls, white supremacists, and religious fundamentalists--- see what I did there ---defeats the purpose.

Common sense does not always win. Sometimes people are just stupid. Did anyone pay attention the

https://www.visitmo.com/missouri-travel/where-the-civil-war-began.aspx

If a person were to actually go to the Holocaust Museum located in Washington, DC ---- the person would understand the depths of evil the Nazi regime adhered to --- homosexuals, gypsies, Jews, non-whites it made no difference.

The problem arises when little neo nobody’s attach themselves to a cause which isn’t really a cause. The Klan has no real power. There are pockets of slimy bottom feeders to be sure.

Saying all of that by dictionary definition makes me a bigot.

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, denstorebog said:

Clearly you don't know what The Great Decline will mean for your diet.

Clearly you don't know my diet if you think that anything could make it worse. 

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28 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

The reason I cut that bit off is firstly because it's an illustrative explanation, not actually part of the definition. But also because Nazis are "members of a group". If you cast a net wide like that, then is lends credence to the argument that we're all bigots. The important criteria are contained within the formal definition element.

Well, I prefer to just point out the colloquial understanding of the word (which is what I quoted), rather than this "intolerance towards unreasonable attitudes" convolution you got going cuz it's simpler, but to each his own.  Point is we all arrived at the same conclusion.

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1 hour ago, Clegane'sPup said:

The problem arises when little neo nobody’s attach themselves to a cause which isn’t really a cause. The Klan has no real power. There are pockets of slimy bottom feeders to be sure.

Are you calling them Nazi wannabes and little neo nobody's because they are responsible for only a few murders? At what point do you stop babying them and take them seriously? They support ideology of a regime that murdered millions -- isn't that admiration inherently dangerous?

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44 minutes ago, Kalbear said:

Yes, we live in a timeline where there's a very real chance that a Juggalo rally will come to violence with a pro-Trump rally scheduled at the same time.

https://twitter.com/meakoopa/status/897956122295803904

I think we've just jumped to the best timeline where love is real for all handsome jet planes. 

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2 hours ago, Clegane'sPup said:

 

My point stands. Are we all bigots.

Perhaps you mean to ask if we all have biases towards people of other groups?  Because the answer is yes for most folks.    Racism should be understood as a spectrum and that "gray" racism - in other words, not overt nazi shit - is also deeply damaging to society.  

Here's a good general article on it with a racism scale that I think is helpful for those like yourself who may not be very knowledgeable about bigotry and racism in general. 

https://medium.com/@harterhealing/how-america-spreads-the-disease-that-is-racism-by-not-confronting-racist-family-members-and-friends-effb68da7e97

 

1 hour ago, Kalbear said:

Also, remember when the great threat to America was that there would be taco truck at every corner?

It sounded like a threat for paradise to me.

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1 hour ago, Kalbear said:

Yes, we live in a timeline where there's a very real chance that a Juggalo rally will come to violence with a pro-Trump rally scheduled at the same time.

https://twitter.com/meakoopa/status/897956122295803904

as someone pointed out in twitter, as much as this rules, it really puts the jugfalos in a catch-22. the fbi, in its ongoing quest to suppress and fuck up poor and working class groups, has been trying for years to designate the juggalos as a violent gang; any actual clashes with the fashies only bolsters their case, yet without a strong or vociferous enough repudiation of the fashies, they open themselves up to looking complicit or at least sympathetic, and "confirming" the negative view a great deal of this county holds of them. a fine line to walk, don't envy them... 

also, what a shitty, classist tweet. 

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29 minutes ago, r'hllor's red lobster said:

as someone pointed out in twitter, as much as this rules, it really puts the jugfalos in a catch-22. the fbi, in its ongoing quest to suppress and fuck up poor and working class groups, has been trying for years to designate the juggalos as a violent gang; any actual clashes with the fashies only bolsters their case, yet without a strong or vociferous enough repudiation of the fashies, they open themselves up to looking complicit or at least sympathetic, and "confirming" the negative view a great deal of this county holds of them. a fine line to walk, don't envy them... 

also, what a shitty, classist tweet. 

For the record, the dream I anticipate coming is fullfullment of the Juggalo Hero Prophecy

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taking on institutional racism can be incredibly daunting-- it may not be possible, easily, or likely to actually change minds or entrenched systems, but attacking or mitigating the tools used to enforce said racism can lie within the hands of any of us; i think this is an amazing idea that i hope will take off and spread to many more communities 

new orleans chapter of democratic socialists are organizing free break light repair (faulty brake lights being o e of the most common reasons for cops to stop a car, especially driven by a non-white operator)

 

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