Angel Eyes

Did the Targaryens dislike the Celtigars?

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Three Valyrian houses migrated from Valyria to Westeros: Targaryen, Velaryon and Celtigar. There have been several marriages between Targaryens and Velaryons, but not a single marriage between Celtigars and Targaryens.

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There could have been such a match prior to the Conquest, although I don't think that's very likely. The Celtigars simply don't seem to be all that important. But I'm pretty sure they still have quite a lot of Targaryen blood since there most likely were quite a few Velaryon-Celtigar matches.

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Claw Isle seems a rather minor Holdfast on a poorly located island. Driftmark on the other hand is an isle as large as Dragonstone that historically housed a fleet almost the size of the royal one, meaning it was critical to the defense of Blackwater Bay and the Narrow Sea.

Could also be that Velaryons were during the times of the Freehold a more prominent House, and the Celtigars were something like landed knights, meaning their blood might not be so 'pure.'

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They couldn't have disliked them all that much, since Aegon I made a Celtigar his first master of coin.

The Celtigars might not have been particularly wealthy or influential (they're rich now, but that could be more recent) or they might have intermarried with non-Valyrian houses on the mainland, making them less attractive marriage partners than the Velaryons.

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I think that prior to the conquest, the Targs on Dragonstone married with house Celtigar. The preference for house Velaryon has nothing to do with disliking the others. The Velaryons were simply closer, wealthier and of "purer" blood. 

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Do we actually know that the Celtigars were a dragonlord family like the Targaryens and Velaryons?

They're said to have "the blood of old Valyria in their veins", but that could just mean a few Targaryen/Velaryon marriages going back 400 years, instead of only 300 years like the other Westerosi houses. In fact, it's not all that different from when the Martells are said to have dragonblood in their veins, which we know only goes back to Maron and Daenerys barely a century ago.

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