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[Spoilers] Rant and Rave Without Repercussion

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5 minutes ago, Snormund said:

Where is Sam gonna read that footnote? In Mel's tell all autobiography? 

Gilly will find it in a Vogue Westeros interview with Mel. 

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Just now, RhaenysB said:

Gilly will find it in a Vogue Westeros interview with Mel. 

Thank you for actually making me laugh and making the cat think I'm crazy   :lol:

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39 minutes ago, Simon Tam said:

The "Targaryens were nothing without their dragons" talking.

Daeron II and Aegon V are rolling in their graves.

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18 hours ago, no_one_... said:

If they're going to have the forced Drama of Sansa and Arya on screen all season, why have the coming together of the 3 Starks off Screen?  

The "suspense" of not showing the viewer wasn't worth the tradeoff off of not showing them reconcile.  That tension and resolution would have been much better on screen and they still could have had the "Trial".  I wonder if the know they just can't pull off character interaction and development anymore. This whole sesaon has been sped up for no reason.  There's easily been 3 hours of potential worthwhile material they could have put in and still obtained their plot goals. 

there could have been plenty more they could have included on screen, but what i had heard about the shorter season is that they had the same budget, but fewer shows, thus more money per episode for all the CGI. and still no Ghost, so i still don't really get it.

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Where to begin?  Oh wait, I know. 

Bran's voice-over while J/A and Dany have sex for the first time.  VOICEOVER SEX IS NEVER HOT, NOT EVEN WHEN BARRY WHITE DOES IT.   Am I giving them a pass on the incest because (a) GoT or (b) Targaryens gonna Targaryen? Maybe. But Kit Harrington's ass makes Powdered Toast Man weep, and there just was no reason - after all the rapes and incest and more rapes -to murder this sex scene. Why not cut the cock discussion at the beginning and actually build up to a fucking dramatic moment for once? 

Little Finger deserved better. A better death for fook sake, D&D- CHRIST!!!!! Did LF drain his brain of all knowledge by teaching Sansa? SO STUPID!!!! The real LF would have planted the scroll, realized the chaos was afoot, overhear the plans for his trial which could have begun (so Sansa can reveal she's been long conning him all along- or better yet, skip the Bran sex voice-over and do a Sansa voice-over  revealing his charges while  showing scenes of LF escaping Winterfell). LF then high tails it to Kings Landing where he plys Cersei with reconnaissance tidbits, and trades barbs with Eurine Greyjoy, all the while manipulating Eurine into something that ultimately dooms him, while leaving Cersei his ships. Then, LF would head to his brothel, where a hooded man with a crossbow would be waiting (Sansa), and another who turns out to be Arya, who reveals the catspaw and her identity in the last moment.  BUT NOOOOOO. This is why we cannot have nice things.

Theon. Dammit Alfie Allen's talent is Fooking wasted on a fight scene. OH- Did Ramsey cut the frank and beans? I thought it was just the frank, so he'd have all the desire, none of the ability? anyway- those knees to the groin would have hurt anyway. So is Theon headed to Esso to find Euron? Because he ain't at Castle GreySkull.... 

Still not ok with Viserion's death, ya'll. 

Finally:  NOT ONE GHOST SIGHTING. 

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So Jon spends the whole season trying to unite everyone to fight the WW, even though they can't get through the Wall, then is responsible for the WW getting a dragon that allows them to bring down the Wall.

This is terrible plot construction!

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I've just came to a realization...

Umber will finally march behind a Glover.

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38 minutes ago, RhaenysB said:

Rhaenys was a child too. Prince Rhaegar's daughter. A precious little thing, younger than your girls. She had a small black kitten she called Balerion, did you know? I always wondered what happened to him. Rhaenys liked to pretend he was the true Balerion, the Black Dread of old."

I have been trying for 2 years to convince My husband that the black cat that repeated turned up in the early books, (Arya chasing him, for example) was important! and here in your signature line, you clear it up for me!!!! 

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19 hours ago, iprayiam said:

Why the talk of Honest Jon always keeping his word? Wouldn't most of the people there believe him to be an oath breaking deserter? i never bought the died means free excuse, but I get that Jon feels right with it. But that's not knowledge to everyone else.

 

Totally-  even if you buy the death freed him from his oath only we - the viewers, Davos, Sam, the Nights Watch, Melisandre, Ghost, and Beric know he died- right? No one else knows he was resurrected, so in the eyes of EVERYONE else he's an oath breaker. 

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16 hours ago, Padrino said:

Re: the complaints about Sansa turning on Littlefinger because of Bran, or whatever reason.  It wasn't that, Littlefinger said that Arya wants to be Lady of Winterfell, and Sansa knows that is the last thing Arya wants. That's what finally clued her in.

agreed. i thought ththey were leading up to that dialog ending with Sandra saying "ME?", which means Arya would have killed her and taken her face, seemed like where they were heading, then the "Lady" stuff and you knew they were going elsewhere.

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41 minutes ago, Snormund said:

Thank you for actually making me laugh and making the cat think I'm crazy   :lol:

Anytime. The only joy I get out of the show is making sarcastic jokes about how shitty it is. 

3 minutes ago, Katleesi said:

I have been trying for 2 years to convince My husband that the black cat that repeated turned up in the early books, (Arya chasing him, for example) was important! and here in your signature line, you clear it up for me!!!! 

Oh, that's been under discussion in gen Asoiaf for years. I personally think it's the best theory of the entire series and probably true too. I love that cat. 

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18 hours ago, madscientist596 said:

Viseryion's wings are already decaying?  PUH-LEASE.  We get it he's an undead dragon, but now he flies super fast with holes in his wings?  Fire the CGI people.

Cersei in the most bitch move ever betrays everyone in the dumbest way possible.  Let plate littlecreeper for a minute---if the north losses then you face down an increased undead army.  If they win, you just stabbed them in the back during the most important event in centuries and the whole kingdom is gonna know what a douche you are.  A true Tywin would find a way to make HIMSELF the hero of saving the north, Marry Jamie to Dany and then place Emila Clarke in acting school AFTER forcing Jon Snow to take the black again.

 

TOTES McGoats.  

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18 hours ago, Ser Wun Wun said:

At this point I wouldn't expect Winds from him in 2018 regardless of what the show does.  He just doesn't have it in him to finish this series, I think.  Creatively spent.

Edit; meant "Wouldn't" expect Winds in 2018, not would.     

I'm hoping he's just resting from it like J.K. Rowling did, only more so, because Cursed Child was not- um - great. And she took a LOT of time off Potter, because she was spent.    Maybe that is why some of these authors turn over sequels to ghost writers, people who have enthusiasm for the original story- give them a basic outline and let them do all the work, edit it yourself.  I would totally be ok with GRRM doing that. Some of the people in these forums have great ideas and imaginations. 

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18 hours ago, Ser Wun Wun said:

I just don't share your disgust over the incest aspect of it.  I've had like 6 years of expecting it to happen to get used to it. 

George has permanently altered my morals I guess, at least when it comes to this story.  Breaking Bad made me root for Walter White, even when he was objectively being a piece of shit.  George got me rooting for incest because I love Jon and Dany so much.  That's just where I'm at  :wacko:

why are people giving this person shit for his rant? this is R&R people. If you want to judge, go to the "I hate fake incest on TV between non related actors and the dragons aren't real either" forum

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17 hours ago, The Bear Who Knocks said:

i just remembered something:

Bronn literally had to leave the Dragon Pit because Jerome Flynn isn't allowed to be near Lena Headey

HOLY HELL- THAT IS RIGHT!!!!

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Posted (edited)

The way the sex scene between Jon and Dany was directed / edited... almost ruined the episode for me. The decision to reveal Jon's heritage during this scene was just cheesy AF, lets face it. Incest or not, it's still an important, intimate moment between these two characters... so yeah great decision to have Bran speaking throughout most of it... and Tyrion skulking around outside the room? I can't be bothered to look up who directed this episode just now, but really they shouldn't be directing a finale. Presumably there's some silly storyline now which involves Tyrion having agreed with Cersei to make her new child the heir or some shit.. hence him skulking outside their door looking like he's tripping out. 

Edited by Fiery Heart

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20 hours ago, greensleeves said:

He's shaping up to be a worse king than Robb.

:oYou take that back sir! Still too soon to be hating on Robb

Edited by KingMudd

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17 hours ago, Hoo said:

But Sansa said that.  LF just confirmed Ssnsa's words.

He can do that as the advisor.  And Sansa can say to her advisor, I met with Arya and all is good.  But she did not.  She wanted to kill him.

it was a farce for a murder.  And she killed him because she was tired of him, she wanted to kill him.

And Arya executed him because Arya is a killer, she will kill anyone, without any moral judgment.

No one would Argue that Arya is a stone cold assassin, but LF was a murdere and treasonous. LF did cause/conspire with Lysa to kill John Aryn, and then frame [Tyrion?] for both that and framed Tyrion for the attempted murder of Bran. These things lead to Catlyn capturing Tyrion which was the spark that set off the war of 5 kings.

Some also had to get Lancel the poison to put in Robert's wine, but I don't think anyone has pinned that crime on LF. But I would not doubt he helped Cersei with that. [I will retract if someone tells me otherwise, I just really cannot remember if it was anyone other than Cersei and Lancel]

LF then conspired with The Queen of Thorns and executed the plot to murder Joffrey. As much as we hated Joffrey, his hand was as bloody and frothy as Olenna's.

And he framed Sansa for it. He may well have secreted Sansa out of King's Landing to avoid death by Cersei, but he sold her to Ramsey, and that was the absolute WORST THING HE EVER DID. Then he killed Lysa Aryn and was foolish enough to think Sansa would never use her knowledge of that against him.  

Littlefinger was a murderer, conspirator and treasonous to several Kings, and the Lady of Winterfell/King of the North.  The trial was fully justified, albeit truncated. maybe- MAYBE- Sansa was skirting her rights to execute, but really I don't think so. Cersei might disagree, but fook Cersei. 

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I have to say. After watching my favourite character and one of the most intriguing vilinous anti-heroes of all time dying to Sister Ex-All Seeing Powers," if you're happy, you shouldn't be. Chaos is a ladder and all I foresee are your favourite characters being ruined and picked off as well...or at least ruined. 

 

First they came for our Robb's...then they came for our Cat's. They came for our Tyrion's and Jaime's and we did not cry out! They came for our Cersei's and we said, "nay, tis but a Cathy." They came for our Yara's...or...well...Asha's! And we...were like...eh, she's a lesbian? Cool? They came for our Dorne! And gave us soft core porn! They ironed out the Grey and made the Stanbros ga...cry. Varys, we thought thee neutered before, but we didn't comprehend. Arya and Sansa...quoi? 

 

So rest in peace the great player of the game, your contract was up and they couldn't be bothered to write you dialogue.

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This season was worse than season 6. The only reason I am even going to watch season 8 is I am curious what happens with the others.  However, I expect ridiculos plot armor in the final battle and them to be dead early in the season. 

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