Ashes Of Westeros Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said: Who's the other guy? Daario and...? She married the other guy Hizdahr zo Loraq in Meeren to keep peace. The marriage was short, but in the books at least it was consummated. I don't say it proves everything, but after several years of having regular sex and not getting pregnant, Dany could have doubt in her chances to conceive. Edited August 28, 2017 by Ashes Of Westeros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 58 minutes ago, The Bear said: Oh god, they really went with Aegon. What about his eldest son?! Lyanna named Jon after Rhaegar and his family were all dead. Rhaegar probably expected a girl with Lyanna and never picked a boy's name. Elia's Aegon was a big misdirect by GRRM, in order to disqualify that name from consideration. Otherwise, as the Targaryen name, it would have been obvious that Jon's secret Targaryen name was Aegon. But because he has an older brother, it's the one name we can immediately rule out. Tricky GRRM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Ashes Of Westeros said: She married the other guy Hizdahr zo Loraq in Meeren to keep peace. The marriage was short, but in the books at least it was consummated. I saw no evidence that it was ever consummated in the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbather Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Quote: "Tyrion 's reaction is weird though .Does anyone knows more about it ?" He had been hoping to avoid any imperial entanglements. I'd love to know more about Rhaegar and Lyanna's courtship. The whole situation seems very unfair to his other children. I guess that's what they'll explore in the prequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 What's Jaime going to do? Say my sister changed her mind but Im here to represent? How does that work? What of his fatherhood? This turn of events between them was weird. Maybe he is simply riding out to let them know what to expect, but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iprayiam Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alphonzo said: Yup. Sucks to be outwitted by a silly program, dunnit? The problem I had is that nobody had to solve anything or put any pieces together. They were just spoon fed the truth from Branbot offscreen to wrap it up quickly. Contrast that with Sam and Bran each having half of the puzzle several episodes back and needing to exchange info to put the pieces together. That made for a more interesting scenario. In both we viewers already knew the truth, but in the latter we watched the characters unwrap it vs just being told offscreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkistbeforethedawn Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, Moonbather said: Quote: "Tyrion 's reaction is weird though .Does anyone knows more about it ?" He had been hoping to avoid any imperial entanglements. I'd love to know more about Rhaegar and Lyanna's courtship. The whole situation seems very unfair to his other children. I guess that's what they'll explore in the prequel. Doesn't look like it, only one of the prequels is set in Westeros and it's been made pretty clear it won't be Robert's Rebellion, I take that to mean the events leading up to it as you'd have to include them.to tell either tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryn Alomar Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 How could the Three Eyed Raven not have known that Jon Snow was a legitimate Targaryan? Or did I miss something? How could Sam have known the marriage was legitimate, and ole Three Eyes didn't? What's the point of seeing past, present, and future if you don't get the facts straight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, J. Stargaryen said: Lyanna named Jon after Rhaegar and his family were all dead. Rhaegar probably expected a girl with Lyanna and never picked a boy's name. Elia's Aegon was a big misdirect by GRRM, in order to disqualify that name from consideration. Otherwise, as the Targaryen name, it would have been obvious that Jon's secret Targaryen name was Aegon. But because he has an older brother, it's the one name we can immediately rule out. Tricky GRRM! You do realize that none of this dribble is being written by George anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iprayiam Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, hallam said: From the show. First thing that the TEC says to Bran in the cave is that he has been waiting for him. Then the series of interactions make it clear that he knows that Bran's arrival will lead to his death. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Of Westeros Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Lurid Jester said: other? Hizdahr zo Loraq whom she married in Meereen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, Aemon Targaryen said: Aegon seems pretty unlikely in the books Nah, reread the HotU scene. There's a reason people always mistake Rhaegar and Elia for Rhaegar and Lyanna. It's because the scene describes Jon much better than Elia's son. PtwP + SoIaF. 29 minutes ago, Lurid Jester said: Yeah, the decision to go with Aegon was odd. Then again, have they ever mentioned any of Rhaegar's kids by name before? Might have. I doubt it was a decision, really. It actually can make perfect sense for Jon's real name to be Aegon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 It appeared as if the writer re-racked the Clegane Bowl. I think the demonstration of how to kill a wight was foreshadowing to Sandor killing his undead brother. My own personal prediction is that Sandor kills Gregor with Valyrian steel, Heartbane to be exact. Sam has to give it to someone and the Hound is the likely suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iprayiam Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Why did everyone go on about Jon's trustworthiness and his commitment to duty? Shouldn't he be in most of their eyes a deserter? I get that he believes himself free from his Night's Watch oath, but does anyone in Cersei's party (or most people in Dany's) know anything about his death and resurrection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Macaroni Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Trebla said: It appeared as if the writer re-racked the Clegane Bowl. I think the demonstration of how to kill a wight was foreshadowing to Sandor killing his undead brother. My own personal prediction is that Sandor kills Gregor with Valyrian steel, Heartbane to be exact. Sam has to give it to someone and the Hound is the likely suspect. 100% confirmed But I think it won't be Valyrian steel...it'll be with fire. It would be full circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Frey family reunion said: You do realize that none of this dribble is being written by George anymore? Cool. I came up with this explanation in 2014. Based 100% off of the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowy Tends Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The cousin of the gardener of my brother-in-law did not like the episode, I'm sure it proves something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Of Westeros Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Trebla said: It appeared as if the writer re-racked the Clegane Bowl. I think the demonstration of how to kill a wight was foreshadowing to Sandor killing his undead brother. My own personal prediction is that Sandor kills Gregor with Valyrian steel, Heartbane to be exact. Sam has to give it to someone and the Hound is the likely suspect. For me it looked like The Hound let it go after seeing that his brother isn't the same anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, J. Stargaryen said: Cool. I came up with this explanation in 2014. Based 100% off of the books. Then you should sue to get a writing credit for that show, because it's probably where D & D got this idea from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The theme appears to be to forgive and protect family, not clegane bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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