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Catalun independence vote

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3 hours ago, Tijgy said:

oh! :P "Shame on EU"

The 7th of December there will be another one in Brussels, with catalans who will travel there, apparently

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On 12-11-2017 at 6:23 PM, Meera of Tarth said:

oh! :P "Shame on EU"

The 7th of December there will be another one in Brussels, with catalans who will travel there, apparently

That will be fun for my public transport. :wacko: I already got crazy last year during other protest against Trump. So much noise. If it is after four o'clock I might take a look ^_^

Anyway about our favorite EU MEP (who is completely forgetting he us actually representing the Flemish btw*): https://www.politico.eu/article/guy-verhofstadt-alde-alliance-of-liberal-democrats-and-everyone-else/amp/

* Today he is posting some tweets in French and English for the Paris attacks, but he couldn't even tweet something in Dutch to remember the Brussels attacks. It aren't the French or the English who voted him into that Parliament. But then he always have betrayed his voters.  

I think it is sad the whole atmosphere went that bad between the Catalan MEPS but I still amuse myself Guy is confronted with that situation. :D Poor Guy. 

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5 hours ago, Tijgy said:

That will be fun for my public transport. :wacko: I already got crazy last year during other protest against Trump. So much noise. If it is after four o'clock I might take a look ^_^

There are more than 90000 visitors currently interested, according to Wikipedia. No idea of when it will happen, exactly.

More Info: https://www.facebook.com/OmplimBrusselles/

                 https://twitter.com/OmplimBrux

Yes, demonstrations are always tricky in that sense, better not use public transport or use alternative means of transport, but since its in a labour Day it can't be avoided :wacko: which makes it more complex for the city.

In Spain the 7th of December it's also a Labour Day, but it's between two Holiday days (the 6th being the Constitution Day. which was originally the day they planned to go there, but they changed it, I suppose due to the fact that people going by car could not arrive on time)) I guess many people will take that day off for vacation and travel.

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Anyway about our favorite EU MEP (who is completely forgetting he us actually representing the Flemish btw*): https://www.politico.eu/article/guy-verhofstadt-alde-alliance-of-liberal-democrats-and-everyone-else/amp/

* Today he is posting some tweets in French and English for the Paris attacks, but he couldn't even tweet something in Dutch to remember the Brussels attacks. It aren't the French or the English who voted him into that Parliament. But then he always have betrayed his voters.  

I think it is sad the whole atmosphere went that bad between the Catalan MEPS but I still amuse myself Guy is confronted with that situation:D Poor Guy. 

Our favourite!!:P

Yeah, he is a bit contradictory and hypocritical, isn't it?

And what he says about being happy that Tremosa is Isolated? Wait, Guy is super freinds with Citizens! Now it makes sense.

Shouldn't they avoid talking about the nationalistic topics? Or at least respect everyone's opinions? If the guys from PDeCat are there it's because they see their party as centrist and liberal, so I don't think Guy is being fair.

I also amuse myself with that....tat article suggests he has problems everywhere!! oh, no one said it was easy to be a leader....

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Ok, I was reading the premises of the demonstration of Brussels and it says:

1)Explaining the difficult social and political problem in Catalonia

2)Being against the application of the 155

3)In favour of the freedom of political prisoners (ex-Government and the Jordis)

4)Defense of the civil, social and democratic rights of the Catalan country (its people it says) as citizens of a free state in Europe.

So I guess it's more transversal (democratic rights) than independentist but the 4 point suggests that is also independentist ("state")

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@Tijgy

So there was a  theoretical plan" to enter the Parliament the first day of the UDI..(10th of Octoberm the day the UDI lasted sme seconds and then was suspended) in case the Government members refused to leave the Parliament.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interviu.es%2Freportajes%2Farticulos%2Fel-plan-de-asalto-al-parlament

Apparenty there were three ways of entering:

-subsoil: sewers

-air: helicopters

-land: National Spanish Police trespassing on the multitude, the people who were watching everything or who could be trying the police not to enter there  :(

By land, " five groups of the Police Intervention Unit " would be occupied (each group will consist of fifty troops) that would clear the park of possible demonstrators and facilitate the entry into the Parliament of the GAR (Rapid Action Groups) of the Guard. Civil. Three hundred of those command-men, who have been compared to the US Marines, are in Catalonia waiting to receive orders.

So.. would they have done it (especially land forces) considering the international Press was there?

And the Police and Guardia Civiles are still in Catalonia...

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This is the man who lost his eye the 1st of October talking about his experience

As the article points out, these type of guns are prohibited in Catalonia, bc 5 years ago another person lost her eye during a demonstration. The ones who usd them this time were the National SPanish Police. It's horrible that the ones who should be protecting people, the police, had to use this kind of weapons, that can injure anyone in the street, just walking.

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The minister of Foreign Affairs of Spain in an interview of Deutsche Welle about the events of the 1st of October.

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