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MLB Offseason 2017/18 - Yu Broke My Heart, Ain't That A Shame

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4 minutes ago, Ghjhero said:

I don’t see the need to change the system. I think pace of play has been blown out of proportion. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 

Well, I think it is somewhat broke.  I don't have a problem with the pitch clock - I think most guys will adjust just fine.  Limiting it to only one mound visit per inning seems a bit extreme, but apparently teams get six "freebies" if I'm reading it right:

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Under the proposal, each team would have received six so-called “no-change” visits that would have prevented the pitcher from leaving the game.

That seems pretty reasonable to me - even as Gary Sanchez is one of the most egregious offenders in frequent mound visits.

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1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

Nah, he traded a top 5 player who is the reigning MVP to a team with a very deep farm system for a bag of peanuts. And they've dumped other good players too for nothing. And wait, it gets better! Jeter's financial plan is to increase attendance by 50% while the fan base is planning on boycotting the team. If he cannot achieve the increase in attendance, they'll have to slash the roster salary even more! This team is going to be awful for years and the financial plan guarantees it all while making sure that Jeter still turns a personal profit.

This all sounds vaguely familiar, almost like it happened in Pittsburgh before, and is continuing to happen as we speak. This has been Pittsburgh baseball since 1992. I can go into painful detail if necessary, but it will be at great personal cost to my current well being. 

https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/16/pittsburgh-pirates-andrew-mccutchen-gerrit-cole-bob-nutting

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5 hours ago, Argonath Diver said:

What don't you like about limiting visits to the mound? Just curious. I think my guy Yadi has to approach the mound more than any catcher I can think of. Even still, I'm all for speeding up the process. I love pitchers that move right along, though perhaps because so many Cardinals pitchers take their sweet ass time on the mound. Pitching changes slow games to a crawl, especially in the post-season with longer commercial breaks - though I've no idea how to speed that up with so much advertisement money involved.

because the real problem is batters don't stay in the damn batters' box because the home plate umpire doesn't make them even though they have the authority and written rule provisions to do so.

The umpire is not obligated to grant ANY request for time out, let alone all of them.  Batters ask for time after seemingly every pitch, take a little stroll around foul territory, adjust their cup, tug on their gloves, move their helmet back into position, adjust their up again, spit out that last sunflower seed, adjust their cup AGAIN, and then finally put a foot back in the b-OH WAIT BETTER CHECK THE SIGNS FROM THE THIRD BASE COACH AGAIN BEFORE STEPPING in okay here we go.

Some hitters abuse this more than others and the Yankees and Red Sox both seem to feel a moral obligation to sign all of them which is why a typical Yankees/Red Sox game makes Cricket look like drag racing.

Limiting mound visits not only doesn't truly address the problem but breaks game balance because batters can still take all the time out they want.  Balls to that.

Use the rules they've already got, and make the batter pitcher and catcher stay standing where they're supposed to.  Encourage umpires to Just Say No.

 

Edited by Frances Bean Corbray

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Once again one of my sports teams is in a situation where they clearly ought to rebuild but won’t for PR reasons and so we’re back on the treadmill to nowhere. That said, in the ‘other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the show?’ kind of way, they continue to make small moves that almost always seem to be incremental improvements. It’s like I completely disagree with their thesis but have to tip my hat to their writing skills. 

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1 hour ago, Frances Bean Corbray said:

Encourage umpires to Just Say No.

#MeToo.

 

Too soon?

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7 hours ago, Ghjhero said:

I don’t see the need to change the system. I think pace of play has been blown out of proportion. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 

I agree, I am unbothered with the current pace of play.

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6 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

I agree, I am unbothered with the current pace of play.

Yeppers. Excessive "trips to the mound" by anyone, including it seems the folks selling popcorn, are getting ridiculous and annoying. And agree, the insane number off time outs until the batter feels ten thousand percent comfortable and ready to bat are getting ridiculous. But, I also don't mind the pace of the game. Another big NO vote to pitch clocks. As with the "automatic intentional walk", how much time was saved anyway last year? 

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