Dolorous Gabe Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 42 minutes ago, rocksniffer said: semi canon sources support howland....however i also want it to be lyanna... Can you elaborate on the semi-canon sources? From a storytelling POV it makes no sense at all for it to be Howland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 nonnative, mantic, neosomething... what is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Not Appearing Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 2:25 PM, a free shadow said: That is a good clue! Well I'll be Mark Mullendore's monkey's uncle... a compliment. But, yeah, I was just referencing the game of pretending to be a boy in order to study at the Citadel. ... with "past" not referring to inferiority so much as serving to indicate a negative on the lass front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksniffer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 hours ago, Dolorous Gabe said: Can you elaborate on the semi-canon sources? From a storytelling POV it makes no sense at all for it to be Howland. i just reread entire wiki and then went to world book which was cited and i freely admit i misunderstood. the source confirms crannogman was howland but stops short of naming him as knight...luckily i only needed knight as answer or you would have beaten me more soundly and for the record i almost had a better score but of course i abandoned rattleshirt in favor of night king...with abolutely no reasoning whatsoever...and of course i went with Egg for the one who when a youth had not wanted to marry or be a scholar, but to be a knight...i think i was hung up on the historical bloodraven clue which of course turned out to be the one i thought i had right from the beginning, but was not so...ramsay snow was a bastard who caused murder as a disguised person when he convinced theon to kill kids and he planned lure and slaughter of northmen and ironborn...he fit theme and clue...in my worthless opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Bell Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, rocksniffer said: i just reread entire wiki and then went to world book which was cited and i freely admit i misunderstood. the source confirms crannogman was howland but stops short of naming him as knight...luckily i only needed knight as answer or you would have beaten me more soundly and for the record i almost had a better score but of course i abandoned rattleshirt in favor of night king...with abolutely no reasoning whatsoever...and of course i went with Egg for the one who when a youth had not wanted to marry or be a scholar, but to be a knight...i think i was hung up on the historical bloodraven clue which of course turned out to be the one i thought i had right from the beginning, but was not so...ramsay snow was a bastard who caused murder as a disguised person when he convinced theon to kill kids and he planned lure and slaughter of northmen and ironborn...he fit theme and clue...in my worthless opinion... I also had Ramsay. I thought "illegitimate cawing" referred to the bastard letter, which resulted in the mutiny at Castle Black, whereas the intention was to lure Jon to Winterfell for slaughter. It made so much sense in my little head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Gabe Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I was convinced the Bloodraven clue was about Dareon's death, with illegitimate cawing beautifully referencing his singing at the Happy Port, directly leading to his killing, which was a planned lure and slaughter. It was only after carefully going through my prelims (3 wrong, two of which I could tell were wrong so I focused on those first) that I started to question whether it might be referring to something else. I loved it as a clue about Dareon's death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisin' Bran Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The Bloodraven clue I felt I had written well enough (of course I feel that way, I wrote it ). I felt the "cawing" had to refer to a crow or raven as the subject, who in turn, "precipitated" the "illegal offing". The kill was considered illegal because there were actual consequences for the action (Ser Brynden Rivers was sent off to the NW). I did not think that Ramsay fit that mold despite him sending a letter to Jon Snow to lure him to his death. Dareon, of course, was a crow who deserted. I felt that "planned" referred again to the subject and not the target. I will need to be more careful about that in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Gabe Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 59 minutes ago, Raisin' Bran said: The Bloodraven clue I felt I had written well enough (of course I feel that way, I wrote it ). I felt the "cawing" had to refer to a crow or raven as the subject, who in turn, "precipitated" the "illegal offing". The kill was considered illegal because there were actual consequences for the action (Ser Brynden Rivers was sent off to the NW). I did not think that Ramsay fit that mold despite him sending a letter to Jon Snow to lure him to his death. Dareon, of course, was a crow who deserted. I felt that "planned" referred again to the subject and not the target. I will need to be more careful about that in the future. To be fair, it was a good clue. It was just unfortunate that it could be read very solidly in ways unintended. Clue-making can be a minefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia H. Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 I need to add a few things to my last post to really start the round: You can ask your character for help twice, as in Round Three. One preliminary round. Deadline: Wednesday, December 6th, 9 p.m. Central European Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksniffer Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Raisin' Bran said: The Bloodraven clue I felt I had written well enough (of course I feel that way, I wrote it ). I felt the "cawing" had to refer to a crow or raven as the subject, who in turn, "precipitated" the "illegal offing". The kill was considered illegal because there were actual consequences for the action (Ser Brynden Rivers was sent off to the NW). I did not think that Ramsay fit that mold despite him sending a letter to Jon Snow to lure him to his death. Dareon, of course, was a crow who deserted. I felt that "planned" referred again to the subject and not the target. I will need to be more careful about that in the future. hey the cawing should have been the difference maker ...it was a good tip-off...however i was blinded because i just knew it had to be ramsay since he also fit theme, and no small addition was that i thought i had figured out historical clue that was not referenced in books, but character was... all the signs were there...i voted for it as my fav before i knew if i had gotten it right...or wrong that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisin' Bran Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 14 hours ago, rocksniffer said: all the signs were there...i voted for it as my fav before i knew if i had gotten it right...or wrong that is I appreciate the vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a free shadow Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 0:30 AM, Julia H. said: Castellan: 66 House Other is now represented by its Castellan. On purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Gabe Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 17 hours ago, a free shadow said: House Other is now represented by its Castellan. On purpose Well, obviously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia H. Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 18 hours ago, a free shadow said: House Other is now represented by its Castellan. On purpose Hm... Several of you are doing quite well solving the clues and the theme, though the bonus five points are still up for grabs. As a reward, I will tell you that it is possible to pair up the characters of this round from a certain point of view. (It does not mean that they necessarily are partners in any way in the novels, it is more about how they relate to the theme.) The characters of Round Five have signed up to help you and sent you their raven messages. Your acronyms: RFWRR BNBNVSC The deadline: Wednesday, December 6th (9 p.m., Central European Time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksniffer Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 to everyone who wrote a clue this week... edited link including myself...this was the hardest round that consumed my every waking moment for a week...and even invaded my dreams... luckily i have no worries about staying in the dungeon of debauchery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia H. Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Two theme prelims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksniffer Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 there was a theme???!!!??? who knew???? thank you oh benevolent hostess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 13 hours ago, Julia H. said: Two theme prelims. Um this is for this round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia H. Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Castellan said: Um this is for this round? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia H. Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 As you are sitting quietly in that tower, you accidentally overhear part of a conversation through the door. Someone has apparently refused an offer. The voice somehow rings a bell with you, and you think you may have an acquaintance somewhere here, who may help you get a step closer to the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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