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7 minutes ago, Maithanet said:

Northam policies certainly aren't pro-life.  His voting record is pro-choice, he's endorsed by Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood, and his website is explicitly pro-choice.  I don't know what you're going on there, has he said something pro-life at some point in his life?  If so, I don't care if he has.

Pro big business?  Uh, he's a democrat, that's pretty standard. 

Healthcare is not a right?  I don't know what quote you're referring to.  His policies on healthcare are very mainstream Democrat.

DINO?  Please.  There's more to Democrats than the far left, and Virginia is not California.  There's a reason Northam won so comfortably over the Sanders-endorsed Perriello.

I was trying to do a nudge nudge thing. I did read those little factoids about him recently though, I'll try to find them before I go out tonight. 

He just looks like republican lite to me, but again I'll get back to you as soon as I can. 

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24 minutes ago, lokisnow said:

Here's the real question, will we find out that Clinton did exactly the same shit in 2008 and this is the real reason she stayed in (not the super delegates, or at least her buying the dnc was why she expected to get the super delegate votes) but obama was able to overcome her capture of the DNC with actual votes in actual contests.

i still find it amazing that obama defeated Clinton by running up the margin in confederate states and Clinton defeated sanders with the exact same tactic.

I don't think it matters, and I really don't care to know if she did or not. Not sure why relitigating 2008 would be beneficial when it's not even clear if relitigating 2016 is.

And it's not surprising, a lot of Obama people helped Clinton in 2016. Politics, like sports, heavily relies on copycatting other people's successes. 

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Positive news of the minute: Apparently Fairfax (and Falls?) have already exceeded 2013's vote count with 1½ hours to go ...

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23 minutes ago, Maithanet said:

DINO?  Please.  There's more to Democrats than the far left, and Virginia is not California.  There's a reason Northam won so comfortably over the Sanders-endorsed Perriello.

Yeah, people keep overlooking this. You have to run candidates who can win, not pass a purity test. 

On a side note, I'm starting to lean more and more on the idea that charisma matters more than where they fall on the liberal spectrum when it comes to winning nation wide and in purple states.

 

 

 

Also on a totally different note, I just got a push notice that the Senate GOP tax blueprint is looking very different from the House GOP's plan. That's an interesting development. 

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4 minutes ago, denstorebog said:

Positive news of the minute: Apparently Fairfax (and Falls?) have already exceeded 2013's vote count with 1½ hours to go ...

Any reporting on how the lines are looking at the polling stations? 

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2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Any reporting on how the lines are looking at the polling stations? 

Haven't seen anything. I'm just seeing millennial vote seems to be higher in high millennial counties (also Dem). Turnout is still down compared to a presidential year but it looks up from 2013 in places Dems need it to be up.

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6 minutes ago, Mexal said:

Haven't seen anything. I'm just seeing millennial vote seems to be higher in high millennial counties (also Dem). Turnout is still down compared to a presidential year but it looks up from 2013 in places Dems need it to be up.

Well that sounds good overall. One of the things that I think Dems have going for them is that they know this is a race they can and should win, so enthusiasm should be up even if the candidate does nothing for your average Dem.

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6 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Well that sounds good overall. One of the things that I think Dems have going for them is that they know this is a race they can and should win, so enthusiasm should be up even if the candidate does nothing for your average Dem.

Only thing is, I'm not seeing any information in the rest of the state. Everything that has come in is positive from Dem dominated counties but not seeing elsewhere. Turnout could be up there too and we don't know yet.

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20 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Also on a totally different note, I just got a push notice that the Senate GOP tax blueprint is looking very different from the House GOP's plan. That's an interesting development. 

Somewhat expected.  The lobbying is incredible.

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6 minutes ago, Mexal said:

Only thing is, I'm not seeing any information in the rest of the state. Everything that has come in is positive from Dem dominated counties but not seeing elsewhere. Turnout could be up there too and we don't know yet.

Only time will tell I guess. Time to crack open a bottle. Can't decided if I'm going for the mid level whiskey or the nice scotch. Sad drinking expensive liquor doesn't sound all that fun, but happy drinking the good stuff is always worth it.

7 minutes ago, Mlle. Zabzie said:

Somewhat expected.  The lobbying is incredible.

This must be like your Superb Owl. 

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If you were Bullish On Bush (or Brownback), start getting Pumped For Trump.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/penn-wharton-republican-tax-plan-would-do-almost-nothing-to-boost-gdp/

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The Penn Wharton Business Model has analyzed the Republican Tax plan and reports back that it will have the following effect on GDP:

 

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25 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Only time will tell I guess. Time to crack open a bottle. Can't decided if I'm going for the mid level whiskey or the nice scotch. Sad drinking expensive liquor doesn't sound all that fun, but happy drinking the good stuff is always worth it.

This must be like your Superb Owl. 

OMG.  You have no idea.  There hasn't really been one since 1986.  And before then 1954.  The stuff that's happened here and there (Bush tax cuts, etc.) hasn't really changed too very much.  This is no 1986, but still.  Given that we are tax lawyers, this is more like the Triwizard Tournament than the "Big Game."  Particularly the bit at the end with Voldemort.

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1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

I don't think it matters, and I really don't care to know if she did or not. Not sure why relitigating 2008 would be beneficial when it's not even clear if relitigating 2016 is.

And it's not surprising, a lot of Obama people helped Clinton in 2016. Politics, like sports, heavily relies on copycatting other people's successes. 

It's important. Because if you're going into surgery to remove a cancer sometimes you find out the cancer is much more extensive than initially thought. We need to know how deep the Clinton cancer goes so we can put in place a sufficient recovery plan. Until we've excised the incompetents, we'll probably keep repeating the "successes" of 2010 and 2014.

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2 minutes ago, denstorebog said:

Rep. Ted Poe announces retirement.

Jesus.

Jesus cannot help you here.

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32 minutes ago, denstorebog said:

Rep. Ted Poe announces retirement.

Jesus.

That's great news.

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