Frey Kings Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Rome destroyed Carthage Turks destroyed Constantinople Athens by other Greek City States Troy Venice Never ends well Perhapes rebuilding Harrenhall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Kings Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Largely because it’s coastal and vulnerable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyantSpyder Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 You can call Constantinople a lot of things, but "vulnerable" is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Constantinople fell because there were barely people to defend it. Numbers were 10 to 1. And even then it took almost two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredwin Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's the center of commerce and would be just as important whether the seat of the King stood there or not. I highly doubt Aegon would care much about defensible cities, there is no such thing with the might of dragons. It would be like building Bamburgh castle and expecting it to defend against A-10s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Kings Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, The Sunland Lord said: Constantinople fell because there were barely people to defend it. Numbers were 10 to 1. And even then it took almost two months. Yes, Constantinople fell because the empire fell. It was only a matter of time before it fell into the conquerer’s hand. Case in point: Look at ww1, the Occupation of Constantinople by the allied forces in 1918. They took the city, but not the empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, StraightFromAsshai said: Yes, Constantinople fell because the empire fell. It was only a matter of time before it fell into the conquerer’s hand. Case in point: Look at ww1, the Occupation of Constantinople by the allied forces in 1918. They took the city, but not the empire. Different times, different purpose. Allied forces took the city to ensure that The Ottoman Empire will back off from the Balkans which the empire recently lost in the First Balkan War. So I think that by taking the city, they actually took the empire down, even if it wasn't decisive, it surely was its formal ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I like how you left out basically every other city in history that's been on the coast, you could just as easily list all the inland great cities that have been razed, sacked or conquered because they basically all have at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell's son Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 11/6/2017 at 1:26 PM, Freys Injustice said: Rome destroyed Carthage Turks destroyed Constantinople Athens by other Greek City States Troy Venice Never ends well Perhapes rebuilding Harrenhall Yes, cities fall, but a defensible hill that can be resupplied by sea is is a far better position than a castle that can be surrounded and starved out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygett Lannister Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 0:11 AM, Freys Injustice said: Yes, Constantinople fell because the empire fell. It was only a matter of time before it fell into the conquerer’s hand. Case in point: Look at ww1, the Occupation of Constantinople by the allied forces in 1918. They took the city, but not the empire. Lol comparing ww1 and medieval warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endymion I Targaryen Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I think it was a good choice at that time. A commercial port protected by dragons. 3 hills to fortify inside and it is near Dragonstone. Building a new capital was a sign of the new dynasty. As far as (medieval) Constantinople is concerned have in mind that in the 1000 years of the Byzantine Empire, the city fell only 2 times. It was surrounded by sea, having land only in the west. This made protection from enemies easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfyreTheGolden Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 On 07.11.2017 at 0:26 AM, Freys Injustice said: Turks destroyed Constantiople 1 Really ? I don't really think it is the right word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpg2016 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 It was a brilliant place to build a capital, actually. The seaborne approach is strongly defended by the traditional seat of Targaryen power at Dragonstone. It's on a major waterway to spur commerce, and is a quick trip to the wealthier and more advanced Free Cities (and not free cities) in Essos. It wasn't traditionally part of any existing Kingdom (being in a fluid border area), allowing for a degree of neutrality from local politics. And while everyone else has pointed out how dumb the OP is, it is worth nothing that there are incredibly few cities in the modern world not built on the water or a major waterway, and certainly not in the medieval period. You don't get cities without commerce, because otherwise there is no point in that many people gathering in one place. And before the steam engine, there really wasn't an effective alternative to marine commerce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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