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If Robb Stark Did Not Worship The Old Gods...

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If only Jon and Arya worshipped the Old Gods, while their siblings (Robb, Sansa, Bran) worshipped the Seven, how would the story be different?

 

Let's assume this is well known throughout the North.

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After Robb and Sansa are born and are seen following the Seven with Catelyn by their side Ned's bannermen would not be pleased. They will think Cat is a foreign southern witch that is purposely leading House Stark astray. Then they will see Jon Snow, or "Ned's boy" as they will call him, worshipping the Old Gods with his Stark features that his "southern siblings" lack.

"But Mother says you can't ever be Lord of Winterfell"-Robb

"That's not what Lord Karstark and the Greatjon said"-Jon

 

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32 minutes ago, Ralphis Baratheon said:

After Robb and Sansa are born and are seen following the Seven with Catelyn by their side Ned's bannermen would not be pleased. They will think Cat is a foreign southern witch that is purposely leading House Stark astray. Then they will see Jon Snow, or "Ned's boy" as they will call him, worshipping the Old Gods with his Stark features that his "southern siblings" lack.

"But Mother says you can't ever be Lord of Winterfell"-Robb

"That's not what Lord Karstark and the Greatjon said"-Jon

 

Yep, that's basically how that would go. 

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If anything, the central place of the crystal in the worship of the Seven suggests ice as snow crystals. But anyway, assuming gods exist - they might not be neatly categorised into this religion or that, and they might not care which name they are called by.

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6 hours ago, Springwatch said:

If anything, the central place of the crystal in the worship of the Seven suggests ice as snow crystals.

Why would you conclude this? The "crystal" is a prism. It separates light into seven (The Seven) different colors of the rainbow. The 7-color symbolism is used throughout the septs and worship services. The way the light diffracts into the seven colors is mentioned constantly. Every septon/septa wears one of the crystals. No room or need to bring up ice or snow.

Actually, the Seven religion has all the hallmarks of a man-made made-up religion: a strict code of conduct, a collection of fables to illustrate this code, a set of "deities" who illustrate further the way the different roles in society should work.Then there's the hierarchy of the sept, resulting frequently and inevitably in politicking over religious instruction, and abuse of power, even at the lowest levels.

The Old Gods, on the other hand, don't seem to have any of the above. They're just recognized sources of power, and whether they respond to "prayer" or not is anyone's guess at this point. R'hllor, another apparent god, seems to enable miracles and prophesy. Both seem fundamentally different from the 7.

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2 hours ago, zandru said:

Why would you conclude this? The "crystal" is a prism. It separates light into seven (The Seven) different colors of the rainbow. The 7-color symbolism is used throughout the septs and worship services. The way the light diffracts into the seven colors is mentioned constantly. Every septon/septa wears one of the crystals. No room or need to bring up ice or snow.

Yes, the rainbows from the crystals are mentioned constantly, and this is as far as you can get from the monochrome shades of the North, and Winter and the Long Night - so I'm not at all concluding the Faith has any affinity for snow. There might be some kind of foreshadowing to it though. The link to ice is suggested by quotes from Jon's chapters:

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Every blade of grass was carved from emerald, every drip of water turned to diamond.

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On days like this the Wall shimmered bright as a septon's crystal, every crack and crevasse limned by sunlight, as frozen rainbows danced and died behind translucent ripples.

 

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Actually, the Seven religion has all the hallmarks of a man-made made-up religion: a strict code of conduct, a collection of fables to illustrate this code, a set of "deities" who illustrate further the way the different roles in society should work.Then there's the hierarchy of the sept, resulting frequently and inevitably in politicking over religious instruction, and abuse of power, even at the lowest levels.

The Old Gods, on the other hand, don't seem to have any of the above. They're just recognized sources of power, and whether they respond to "prayer" or not is anyone's guess at this point. R'hllor, another apparent god, seems to enable miracles and prophesy. Both seem fundamentally different from the 7.

I'm quite fond of the Faith of the Seven, because it's the only major religion that doesn't ask for human sacrifice. Maybe that proves it is a totally artificial religion, if it is the case that all gods by their very nature will demand blood in exchange for power.

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