GAROVORKIN Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Do you think the Tolkien Estate would ever permit other writers to do books and stories set in the LOTR Universe ? If they did , which writers would you like to see do stories set in the LOTR Universe ? What kinds of stories would you want to see? Thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I sincerely hope not. We've seen what Kevin J. Anderson did when set loose in the Dune Universe. I don't, and I hope no one else, wants to read glorified fan fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I would definitely not think much of an author who would do something like that. Create your own world and set the story in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Doesn't it become public domain at some point and then anyone can do it? Because if that's right I'm almost certain that it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Hello World said: Doesn't it become public domain at some point and then anyone can do it? Because if that's right I'm almost certain that it's going to happen. As the law stands, not for quite some time. And I hope no one does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Assuredly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Hello World said: Doesn't it become public domain at some point and then anyone can do it? Because if that's right I'm almost certain that it's going to happen. Disney and the other entertainment industry giants keep "lobbying" (meaning bribing with campaign contribution) the US congress and the respective legislative bodies around the world to extend copyright to a ridiculous degree, so probably not since they were published after Disney's most famous creations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo498 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 McKiernan basically did that and got into some trouble, so supposedly changed a few bits. But his "Iron Tower" books are derivative and suck anyway. It may be a prejudice but I do not think that it speaks well of an author's creativity if he wants to use a pre-made universe, especially the one of the most famous fantasy book of the last 100 years. And one that is in many respects (history, languages etc.) more elaborate than anything else in the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Hello World said: Doesn't it become public domain at some point and then anyone can do it? Because if that's right I'm almost certain that it's going to happen. The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit become public domain in the UK on 1st January, 2044. To answer the question - no. Mountains of fanfiction already exist, and I don't think there would be much scope for publishers here (why pay for fanfiction when you can get it for free?). At most, I think you might see someone in 2054-2055 produce some sort of anthology commemorating the centenary, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 53 minutes ago, Let's Get Kraken said: You must not have read Eragon... Or The Sword of Shannara or The Eye of the World or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Whenever the copyright expires, if it ever does, and if a viable entertainment industry still exists, then it's inevitable. There will be books, stories, movies, television shows, video games, all of that set in LOTR world adapting all that has not been adapted, adapting again what all ready has, and creating new stories all together. Once it's legal, no way will it not be capitalized on. Doesn't bother me. It all depends on the talent of the writer and the freedom of what they're allowed to do. More often than not an original work may indicate a writer is more adept and creative, but not necessarily. Lots of great writers (along with a ton of shitty ones) like to write in all ready established universes, Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel Comics, DC, etc. If it's good I'll enjoy it, if it's bad I'll opt out before investing much into it. Maybe I won't even be around by the time it happens. So, why the hell not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Let's Get Kraken said: You must not have read Eragon... Eragon is Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 7 hours ago, Roose Boltons Pet Leech said: Mountains of fanfiction already exist, and I don't think there would be much scope for publishers here (why pay for fanfiction when you can get it for free?). I don't see why they would publish Jane Austen zombie books and mountains of Sherlock Homles fan-fiction but not Gandalf and Hobbits and Golem, etc. If anything, the latter has a bigger market now and LotR fans are more likely to read fan-fiction than the former ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 21 hours ago, Jo498 said: McKiernan basically did that and got into some trouble, so supposedly changed a few bits. But his "Iron Tower" books are derivative and suck anyway. It may be a prejudice but I do not think that it speaks well of an author's creativity if he wants to use a pre-made universe, especially the one of the most famous fantasy book of the last 100 years. And one that is in many respects (history, languages etc.) more elaborate than anything else in the field. Ive read some McKiernan books. He's not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 19 hours ago, baxus said: Or The Sword of Shannara or The Eye of the World or... Sword of Shannara is Tolkien inspired no question . But the major difference is that Shannara is a post apocalyptic. Eye of the World is quite different in concept from LOTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, GAROVORKIN said: Sword of Shannara is Tolkien inspired no question . But the major difference is that Shannara is a post apocalyptic. Eye of the World is quite different in concept from LOTR. Sword of Shannara is as derivative as it could get without being a flat out copy and if you seriously think that The Eye of the World is "quite different" from LotR, I suggest you read them again. Not that I would wish another reading of The Eye of the World upon anyone, mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Sword of Shannara is extremely derivative of LotR, but to be fair Brooks did go off in other directions later on. The Eye of the World has surface similarities to LotR but these are significantly overblown. The second half of the novel goes in a very different direction and the rest of the series has very little to do with Tolkien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Werthead said: Sword of Shannara is extremely derivative of LotR, but to be fair Brooks did go off in other directions later on. The Eye of the World has surface similarities to LotR but these are significantly overblown. The second half of the novel goes in a very different direction and the rest of the series has very little to do with Tolkien. I was not talking about the rest of the series in either case, just Sword of Shannara and The Eye of the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 6 hours ago, GAROVORKIN said: Sword of Shannara is Tolkien inspired no question . But the major difference is that Shannara is a post apocalyptic. Eye of the World is quite different in concept from LOTR. LOTR is post-apocalyptic. It's set in the ruins of the previous ages, with little remaining of the High elves or the Numenorans. In the 2nd Age Sauron took one look at the Numenorans and surrendered. In the 3rd age he's the big bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 8 hours ago, baxus said: Sword of Shannara is as derivative as it could get without being a flat out copy and if you seriously think that The Eye of the World is "quite different" from LotR, I suggest you read them again. Not that I would wish another reading of The Eye of the World upon anyone, mind you. I read the Sword Shannara once and that was quite enough as for Eye I serious doubt I will ever attempt to read that one again either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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