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[AlaskanSandman]

     So this post is an attempt to give the full picture, the proper time line, and the narrative of the myths to present time, along with the Three Heads of Rhaegar's Dragon, and how it all connects. This is constructed entirely from alternate assertions by Maesters in disagreement over events. Like the Andal invasion or Alyssa Arryn being 6000, 4000, and 2000 years ago. In cases such as this, i go with the time that lines up with other accounts mentioned to have been in those time frames, such as Dawn being forged 2000 years ago, or the Inner Walls of Winterfell being raised 2000 years ago. In the case where no alternate dating can be found. i go with the one dating given. In the case of some, like tales about Essos, we have to assume the dating is way off. Such as the Ghiscari. This again is not discrediting the Maesters or what they say, just not always going off Maester Yandel. Some accounts come from characters who aren't even Maesters.

    In this you will find that the Age of Heroes began 3000 years ago, following the Pact, when Garth the Green was buried with a Curse, to prevent man from ruling all of Westeros.

     His sons the rock king (Azor Ahai) and salt king (The Grey King) who activated the curse in his war with Azor to become the High King and wed their sister.

     The mythical Azor Ahai is Huzhor Amai, Hugor of the Hill, Uthor of the Hightower, The First Dayne, Durran God's Grief, the Bloodstone Emperor and the Knight's King who was Brandon the Builder. 

      Nissa Nissa was his bride, the Blue Eyed mermaid that was Elenai. The Woman Azor Ahai and the Grey King fought over.

      Azor sacrifices Nissa Nissa to end the War, and builds the Wall to prevent man from ruling all of Westeros ever again. No more kings allowed beyond the Wall, and no cities.

     A few notable events happening in the years after the Battle of the Dawn, such as the Andal Invasion by Artys Arryn, and his conquest to Old Town where he is crowned.

      Most importantly is Hardhome rising to become a city, before Valyria burns it and takes Dragonstone. As the pact may have just been broken.

     Valyrian blades pour into Westeros

       Valyria though soon destroyed by the Faceless Men, House Lannister, and likely the Faith.

       The Targaryen's are eventually brought down by the Faith too, but not before the Maesters meddling also brings the Starks south, and produces the Next Azor Ahai in Jon, and Nissa Nissa in Dany, who will war with their other brother, Aegon VI Targaryen.

        Please read carefully and with consideration. I tried to keep this as short as possible but does cover alot that can easily be missed. Like note the Blackwood vs Bracken feud in correlation to the Valyrian and Ghiscari feud. Many of these things are very important and could easily be talked about in isolated threads, though never connecting it to the big picture. 

         So this is an attempt to break it down and see the big picture as best as i can. 

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       Empire of the Dawn family and its members and length of rule. Garth the Green is the God on Earth.

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond: Yi Ti

This was not always so, we know. In ancient days, the god-emperors of Yi Ti were as powerful as any ruler on earth, with wealth that exceeded even that of Valyria at its height and armies of almost unimaginable size.

In the beginning, the priestly scribes of Yin declare, all the land between the Bones and the freezing desert called the Grey Waste, from the Shivering Sea to the Jade Sea (including even the great and holy isle of Leng), formed a single realm ruled by the God-on-Earth, the only begotten son of the Lion of Night and MaidenMade-of-Light, who traveled about his domains in a palanquin carved from a single pearl and carried by a hundred queens, his wives. For ten thousand years the Great Empire of the Dawn flourished in peace and plenty under the Godon-Earth, until at last he ascended to the stars to join his forebears.

Dominion over mankind then passed to his eldest son, who was known as the Pearl Emperor and ruled for a thousand years. The Jade Emperor, the Tourmaline Emperor, the Onyx Emperor, the Topaz Emperor, and the Opal Emperor followed in turn, each reigning for centuries...yet every reign was shorter and more troubled than the one preceding it, for wild men and baleful beasts pressed at the borders of the Great Empire, lesser kings grew prideful and rebellious, and the common people gave themselves over to avarice, envy, lust, murder, incest, gluttony, and sloth.

 

 

1. The North

2. The Vale

3. The Riverlands

4. The Iron Islands

5. The Westerlands

6. The Reach

7. The Stormlands

8. Dorne

9.Kingdom beyond the wall.

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1 God on Earth = Garth the Green

2 Pearl = Garth the Gardener

3 Jade

4. Tourmaline

5. Onyx

6. Topaz

7. Opal = Brandon of the Bloody Blade

8. Amethyst. = Nissa Nissa

9. The Bloodstone Emperor = Brandon the Builder / Azor Ahai

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond: Yi Ti

Certain scholars from the west have suggested Valyrian involvement in the construction of the Five Forts, for the great walls are single slabs of fused black stone that resemble certain Valyrian citadels in the west...but this seems unlikely, for the Forts predate the Freehold's rise, and there is no record of any dragonlords ever coming so far east.

Thus the Five Forts must remain a mystery. They still stand today, unmarked by time, guarding the marches of the Golden Empire against raiders out of the Grey Waste.

 

The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond: Yi Ti

No discussion of Yi Ti would be complete without a mention of the Five Forts, a line of hulking ancient citadels that stand along the far northeastern frontiers of the Golden Empire, between the Bleeding Sea (named for the characteristic hue of its deep waters, supposedly a result of a plant that grows only there) and the Mountains of the Morn. The Five Forts are very old, older than the Golden Empire itself; some claim they were raised by the Pearl Emperor during the morning of the Great Empire to keep the Lion of Night and his demons from the realms of men...and indeed, there is something godlike, or demonic, about the monstrous size of the forts, for each of the five is large enough to house ten thousand men, and their massive walls stand almost a thousand feet high.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond: Asshai-by-the-Shadow

Easternmost and southernmost of the great cities of the known world, the ancient port of Asshai stands at the end of a long wedge of land, on the point where the Jade Sea meets the Saffron Straits. Its origins are lost in the mists of time. Even the Asshai'i do not claim to know who built their city; they will say only that a city has stood here since the world began and will stand here until it ends.

Few places in the known world are as remote as Asshai, and fewer are as forbidding. Travelers tell us that the city is built entirely of black stone: halls, hovels, temples, palaces, streets, walls, bazaars, all. Some say as well that the stone of Asshai has a greasy, unpleasant feel to it, that it seems to drink the light, dimming tapers and torches and hearth fires alike. The nights are very black in Asshai, all agree, and even the brightest days of summer are somehow grey and gloomy.

Asshai is a large city, sprawling out for leagues on both banks of the black river Ash. Behind its enormous land walls is ground enough for Volantis, Qarth, and King's Landing to stand side by side and still have room for Oldtown.

 

The World of Ice and Fire - Beyond the Free Cities: Sothoryos

Some say that there were other races here once—forgotten peoples destroyed, devoured, or driven out by the Brindled Men. Tales of lizard men, lost cities, and eyeless cave-dwellers are commonplace. No proof exists for any of these.

Maesters and other scholars alike have puzzled over the greatest of the engimas of Sothoryos, the ancient city of Yeen. A ruin older than time, built of oily black stone, in massive blocks so heavy that it would require a dozen elephants to move them, Yeen has remained a desolation for many thousands of years, yet the jungle that surrounds it on every side has scarce touched it. ("A city so evil that even the jungle will not enter," Nymeria is supposed to have said when she laid eyes on it, if the tales are true). Every attempt to rebuild or resettle Yeen has ended in horror.

 

The World of Ice and Fire - Beyond the Free Cities: The Basilisk Isles

On the Isle of Toads can be found an ancient idol, a greasy black stone crudely carved into the semblance of a gigantic toad of malignant aspect, some forty feet high. The people of this isle are believed by some to be descended from those who carved the Toad Stone, for there is an unpleasant fishlike aspect to their faces, and many have webbed hands and feet. If so, they are the sole surviving remnant of this forgotten race.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Oldtown

The stony island where the Hightower stands is known as Battle Isle even in our oldest records, but why? What battle was fought there? When? Between which lords, which kings, which races? Even the singers are largely silent on these matters.

 

Even more enigmatic to scholars and historians is the great square fortress of black stone that dominates that isle. For most of recorded history, this monumental edifice has served as the foundation and lowest level of the Hightower, yet we know for a certainty that it predates the upper levels of the tower by thousands of years.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Iron Islands

Archmaester Haereg once advanced the interesting notion that the ancestors of the ironborn came from some unknown land west of the Sunset Sea, citing the legend of the Seastone Chair. The throne of the Greyjoys, carved into the shape of a kraken from an oily black stone, was said to have been found by the First Men when they first came to Old Wyk. Haereg argued that the chair was a product of the first inhabitants of the islands, and only the later histories of maesters and septons alike began to claim that they were in fact descended of the First Men. But this is the purest speculation and, in the end, Haereg himself dismissed the idea, and so must we.

 

        Who created dragons by skinchanging animals and mating them, who's souls and blood intertwined with their own.

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A Dance with Dragons - Prologue

Abomination. That had always been Haggon's favorite word. Abomination, abomination, abomination. To eat of human meat was abomination, to mate as wolf with wolf was abomination, and to seize the body of another man was the worst abomination of all. 

 

A Feast for Crows - Arya II

"Firewyrms. Some say they are akin to dragons, for wyrms breathe fire too. Instead of soaring through the sky, they bore through stone and soil. If the old tales can be believed, there were wyrms amongst the Fourteen Flames even before the dragons came. The young ones are no larger than that skinny arm of yours, but they can grow to monstrous size and have no love for men."

The World of Ice and Fire - Beyond the Free Cities: Sothoryos

Most terrible of all are the wyverns, those tyrants of the southern skies, with their great leathery wings, cruel beaks, and insatiable hunger. Close kin to dragons, wyverns cannot breathe fire, but they exceed their cousins in ferocity and are a match for them in all other respects save size.

 

     Who made magical steel out of the Black Trees of Essos.

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Long and low, without towers or windows, it coiled like a stone serpent through a grove of black-barked trees whose inky blue leaves made the stuff of the sorcerous drink the Qartheen called shade of the evening. No other buildings stood near. Black tiles covered the palace roof, many fallen or broken; the mortar between the stones was dry and crumbling. She understood now why Xaro Xhoan Daxos called it the Palace of Dust. Even Drogon seemed disquieted by the sight of it. The black dragon hissed, smoke seeping out between his sharp teeth.

It was darker than she would have thought under the black trees, and the way was longer.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond: Asshai-by-the-Shadow
Few places in the known world are as remote as Asshai, and fewer are as forbidding. Travelers tell us that the city is built entirely of black stone: halls, hovels, temples, palaces, streets, walls, bazaars, all. Some say as well that the stone of Asshai has a greasy, unpleasant feel to it, that it seems to drink the light, dimming tapers and torches and hearth fires alike. The nights are very black in Asshai, all agree, and even the brightest days of summer are somehow grey and gloomy.

A Storm of Swords - Tyrion IV

But Valyrian steel is stubborn. These old swords remember, it is said, and they do not change easily. I worked half a hundred spells and brightened the red time and time again, but always the color would darken, as if the blade was drinking the sun from it. 

    

         and  Dawn out of the Weirwoods of Westeros.

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A Game of Thrones - Eddard X

Ned's wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.
"And now it begins," said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.

A Clash of Kings - Bran III

"The finest knight I ever saw was Ser Arthur Dayne, who fought with a blade called Dawn, forged from the heart of a fallen star. 

 A Storm of Swords - Bran IV

It was white weirwood, and there was a face on it.
A glow came from the wood, like milk and moonlight, so faint it scarcely seemed to touch anything beyond the door itself, not even Sam standing right before it

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Garth was the First King across the Arm of Dorne. He also sounds like a Tree reborn every spring, before the season's went out of wack.

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Garth Greenhand

A thousand tales are told of Garth, in the Reach and beyond. Most are implausible, and many contradictory. In some he is a contemporary of Bran the Builder, Lann the Clever, Durran Godsgrief, and the other colorful figures of the Age of Heroes. In others he stands as the ancestor of them all.

Garth was the High King of the First Men, it is written; it was he who led them out of the east and across the land bridge to Westeros. Yet other tales would have us believe that he preceded the arrival of the First Men by thousands of years, making him not only the First Man in Westeros, but the only man, wandering the length and breadth of the land alone and treating with the giants and the children of the forest. Some even say he was a god.

   

There is disagreement even on his name. Garth Greenhand, we call him, but in the oldest tales he is named Garth Greenhair, or simply Garth the Green. Some stories say he had green hands, green hair, or green skin overall. (A few even give him antlers, like a stag.) Others tell us that he dressed in green from head to foot, and certainly this is how he is most commonly depicted in paintings, tapestries, and sculptures. More likely, his sobriquet derived from his gifts as a gardener and a tiller of the soil—the one trait on which all the tales agree. "Garth made the corn ripen, the trees fruit, and the flowers bloom," the singers tell us.

A few of the very oldest tales of Garth Greenhand present us with a considerably darker deity, one who demanded blood sacrifice from his worshippers to ensure a bountiful harvest. In some stories the green god dies every autumn when the trees lose their leaves, only to be reborn with the coming of spring. This version of Garth is largely forgotten.

Many of the more primitive peoples of the earth worship a fertility god or goddess, and Garth Greenhand has much and more in common with these deities. It was Garth who first taught men to farm, it is said. Before him, all men were hunters and gatherers, rootless wanderers forever in search of sustenance, until Garth gave them the gift of seed and showed them how to plant and sow, how to raise crops and reap the harvest. (In some tales, he tried to teach the elder races as well, but the giants roared at him and pelted him with boulders, whilst the children laughed and told him that the gods of the wood provided for all their needs). Where he walked, farms and villages and orchards sprouted up behind him. About his shoulders was slung a canvas bag, heavy with seed, which he scattered as he went along. As befits a god, his bag was inexhaustible; within were seeds for all the world's trees and grains and fruits and flowers.

 

             War with the Children of the Forest and Garth the Green and his family.

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Coming of First Men

What does seem to be accurate from all the tales, however, is that the First Men soon came to war with the children of the forest. Unlike the children, the First Men farmed the land and raised up ringforts and villages. And in so doing, they took to chopping down the weirwood trees, including those with carved faces, and for this, the children attacked them, leading to hundreds of years of war. The First Men—who had brought with them strange gods, horses, cattle, and weapons of bronze—were also larger and stronger than the children, and so they were a significant threat.

 

            Pact on the God's Eye and the Curse on Garth's Barrow. 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Coming of First Men

Regardless, the children of the forest fought as fiercely as the First Men to defend their lives. Inexorably, the war ground on across generations, until at last the children understood that they could not win. The First Men, perhaps tired of war, also wished to see an end to the fighting. The wisest of both races prevailed, and the chief heroes and rulers of both sides met upon the isle in the Gods Eye to form the Pact. Giving up all the lands of Westeros save for the deep forests, the children won from the First Men the promise that they would no longer cut down the weirwoods. All the weirwoods of the isle on which the Pact was forged were then carved with faces so that the gods could witness the Pact, and the order of green men was made afterward to tend to the weirwoods and protect the isle.

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Coming of First Men

With the Pact, the Dawn Age of the world drew to a close, and the Age of Heroes followed.

Whether the green men still survive on their isle is not clear although there is the occasional account of some foolhardy young riverlord taking a boat to the isle and catching sight of them before winds rise up or a flock of ravens drives him away. The nursery tales claiming that they are horned and have dark, greenskin is a corruption of the likely truth, which is that the green men wore green garments and horned headdresses.

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The North

 curse was placed on the Great Barrow that would allow no living man to rival the First King. This curse made these pretenders to the title grow corpselike in their appearance as it sucked away their vitality and life. This is no more than legend, to be sure, but that the Dustins share blood and descent from the Barrow Kings of old seems sure enough.

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Dawn Age

Maester Kennet in the study of a barrow near the Long Lake—a giant's burial with obsidian arrowheads found amidst the extant ribs.

 

The Age of Heroes and the Children of Garth the Green.

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Coming of First Men

With the Pact, the Dawn Age of the world drew to a close, and the Age of Heroes followed

 

So now lets look at the two main children of Garth the Green (Garth who may have lived for many thousands of years.) The First being Garth's oldest child and heir to his Empire in Westeros. 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Garth Greenhand

 God or man, Garth Greenhand fathered many children in this new land; on this all the tales agree. Many of those offspring grew to be heroes, kings, and great lords in their own right, founding mighty houses that endured for thousands of years.

Of all these, the greatest was his firstborn, Garth the Gardener, who made his home on the hill atop the Mander that in time became known as Highgarden, and wore a crown of flowers and vines. All of Garth Greenhand's other children did the Gardener homage as the rightful king of all men, everywhere. 

 

Of whom Garth's children lived for 1000 years (If not murdered)

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Stormlands: House Durrandon

(Such a life span seems most unlikely, even for a hero married to the daughter of two gods. Archmaester Glaive, himself a stormlander by birth, once suggested that this King of a Thousand Years was in truth a succession of monarchs all bearing the same name, which seems plausible but must forever remain unproved.)

 

Here we have a family tie between houses, one of which i suspect House Manderly of being The House Good Brother of the Reach. 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Iron Islands: Driftwood Crowns

All the great houses of the ironborn claim descent from the Grey King and his sons save, curiously, the Goodbrothers of Old Wyk and Great Wyk, who supposedly derive from the Grey King's leal eldest brother.

 

And thus we arrive at the other brother. Who may have activated the curse by becoming King of All Men.

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Iron Islands: Driftwood Crowns

In the Age of Heroes, the legends say, the ironborn were ruled by a mighty monarch known simply as the Grey King. The Grey King ruled the sea itself and took a mermaid to wife, so his sons and daughters might live above the waves or beneath them as they chose. His hair and beard and eyes were as grey as a winter sea, and from these he took his name.

     From there he ruled the Iron Islands for a thousand years, until his very skin had turned as grey as his hair and beard. Only then did he cast aside his driftwood crown and walk into the sea, descending to the Drowned God's watery halls to take his rightful place at his right hand.

 

 

And why did he turn corpse like in appearance through his long rule? He tried to become High King of all Men, thus also activating the curse on Garth.

 

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The crown he wore was made of driftwood, so all who knelt before him might know that his kingship came from the sea and the Drowned God who dwells beneath it.

The deeds attributed to the Grey King by the priests and singers of the Iron Islands are many and marvelous. It was the Grey King who brought fire to the earth by taunting the Storm God until he lashed down with a thunderbolt, setting a tree ablaze. The Grey King also taught men to weave nets and sails and carved the first longship from the hard pale wood of Ygg, a demon tree who fed on human flesh.

Did he kill his father Garth the Green? Remember, he sounds like a tree. Or is this just an attack on the Weirwoods?

 

And thus we enter the apparent struggle between these two brothers or groups. The Grey King's bride was stole?

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Maris the Maid, the Most Fair, whose beauty was so renowned that fifty lords vied for her hand at the first tourney ever to be held in Westeros. (The victor was the Grey Giant, Argoth Stone-Skin, but Maris wed King Uthor of the High Tower before he could claim her, and Argoth spent the rest of his days raging outside the walls of Oldtown, roaring for his bride.)

 That tower, we are told, rose two hundred feet above the harbor. Some say it was designed by Brandon the Builder, whilst others name his son, another Brandon; the king who demanded it, and paid for it, is remembered as Uthor of the High Tower.

For thousands of years thereafter, his descendants ruled Oldtown and the lands of the Honeywine as kings, and ships from the world over came to their growing city to trade. 

Argoth is described as Grey and raged outside the walls of Old Town. The Wall? The Others raging outside the Wall? Then there is a marriage and war, and more Brandon the Builder.

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Stormlands: House Durrandon

The legends surrounding the founder of House Durrandon, Durran Godsgrief, all come to us through the singers. The songs tell us that Durran won the heart of Elenei, daughter of the sea god and the goddess of the wind. By yielding to a mortal's love, Elenei doomed herself to a mortal's death, and for this the gods who had given her birth hated the man she had taken for her lord husband. In their wroth, they sent howling winds and lashing rains to knock down every castle Durran dared to build, until a young boy helped him erect one so strong and cunningly made that it could defy their gales. The boy grew to be Brandon the Builder; Durran became the first Storm King. With Elenei at his side, he lived and reigned at Storm's End for a thousand years, or so the stories claim.

 

 

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A Clash of Kings - Catelyn III

Across rain-sodden fields and stony ridges, she could see the great castle of Storm's End rearing up against the sky, its back to the unseen sea. Beneath that mass of pale grey stone, the encircling army of Lord Stannis Baratheon looked as small and insignificant as mice with banners.

The songs said that Storm's End had been raised in ancient days by Durran, the first Storm King, who had won the love of the fair Elenei, daughter of the sea god and the goddess of the wind. On the night of their wedding, Elenei had yielded her maidenhood to a mortal's love and thus doomed herself to a mortal's death, and her grieving parents had unleashed their wrath and sent the winds and waters to batter down Durran's hold. His friends and brothers and wedding guests were crushed beneath collapsing walls or blown out to sea, but Elenei sheltered Durran within her arms so he took no harm, and when the dawn came at last he declared war upon the gods and vowed to rebuild.

Five more castles he built, each larger and stronger than the last, only to see them smashed asunder when the gale winds came howling up Shipbreaker Bay, driving great walls of water before them. His lords pleaded with him to build inland; his priests told him he must placate the gods by giving Elenei back to the sea; even his smallfolk begged him to relent. Durran would have none of it. A seventh castle he raised, most massive of all. Some said the children of the forest helped him build it, shaping the stones with magic; others claimed that a small boy told him what he must do, a boy who would grow to be Bran the Builder. No matter how the tale was told, the end was the same. Though the angry gods threw storm after storm against it, the seventh castle stood defiant, and Durran Godsgrief and fair Elenei dwelt there together until the end of their days.

 

3000 years ago - The Grey King arrives via Weirwood boats and war with his brother Durran . Conflict between Brackens and Blackwoods. Valyria Vs Ghis, and the Brothers Gendel and Gorne.

The war between the two brothers Durran God's Grief  (Rock King) and the Grey King (Salt King). The Grey King who activated his father's curse when he sought to become High King of Rock and Salt by warring with Durran who stole his wife possibly. Either way, she inherited Garth's throne? and they had to have her to rule. (Same as Euron and Quentyn and such compete for Dany as she is the throne)

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Wall and Beyond: The Wildlings

The brothers Gendel and Gorne were joint kings three thousand years ago. Leading their host down beneath the earth into a labyrinth of twisting subterranean caverns, they passed beneath the Wall unseen to attack the North. Gorne slew the Stark king in battle, then was killed in turn by the king's heir, and Gendel and his remaining wildlings fled back to their caverns, never to been seen again.

 

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A Dance with Dragons - Jaime I

"Five hundred years before the Andals. A thousand, if the True History is to be believed. Only no one knows when the Andals crossed the narrow sea. The True History says four thousand years have passed since then, but some maesters claim that it was only two. Past a certain point, all the dates grow hazy and confused, and the clarity of history becomes the fog of legend."

 

 

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BLACKWOOD-BRACKEN FEUD AND COINAGE

[Note: Edited for brevity. The beginning relates to the heraldry fiddlings mentioned in the previous mail, when it was decided to modify Bracken somewhat.]

Ancient enemies?

The feud between the Brackens and the Blackwoods goes back to the Age of Heroes. Both Houses ruled the riverlands as kings at various times. They were also divided by religion; the Brackens went over to the new gods, while the Blackwoods remained with the old.

http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Category/C91/P15

 

So some quick points about the Blackwoods and Brackens. The Blackwoods buried their dead beneath their weirwood, while the Brackens went to the New Gods.

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A Dance with Dragons - Jaime I

"I have more squires than I know what to do with. Every time I take a piss, they fight for the right to hold my cock. And you have six sons, my lord, not four."

"Once. Robert was my youngest and never strong. He died nine days ago, of a looseness of the bowels. Lucas was murdered at the Red Wedding. Walder Frey's fourth wife was a Blackwood, but kinship counts for no more than guest right at the Twins. I should like to bury Lucas beneath the tree, but the Freys have not yet seen fit to return his bones to me."

A Dance with Dragons - Jaime I

Jaime glimpsed the gnarled limbs of the tree from which the castle took its name. It was a weirwood ancient and colossal, ten times the size of the one in the Stone Garden at Casterly Rock. This tree was bare and dead, though.

"The Brackens poisoned it," said his host. "For a thousand years it has not shown a leaf. In another thousand it will have turned to stone, the maesters say. Weirwoods never rot."

 

A Game of Thrones - Catelyn V

Catelyn knew them all: the Blackwoods and the Brackens, ever enemies, whose quarrels her father was obliged to settle;

 

 

And what is said about their feud??

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A Dance with Dragons - Jaime I

"… gave her Barba's teats." Jaime laughed. "How did all this begin, between Blackwood and Bracken? Is it written down?"

"It is, my lord," the boy said, "but some of the histories were penned by their maesters and some by ours, centuries after the events that they purport to chronicle. It goes back to the Age of Heroes. The Blackwoods were kings in those days. The Brackens were petty lords, renowned for breeding horses. Rather than pay their king his just due, they used the gold their horses brought them to hire swords and cast him down."

 

A Dance with Dragons - Jaime I

If I may offer you some counsel, though, it does not serve to be too gentle with these Blackwoods. Treachery runs in their blood. Before the Andals came to Westeros, House Bracken ruled this river. We were kings and the Blackwoods were our vassals, but they betrayed us and usurped the crown. Every Blackwood is born a turncloak. You would do well to remember that when you are making terms."

 

 

             And here we find some truth in the middle. The Blackwoods who follow the Old Gods, kicked out south, by Brandon the Builder, who was Hugor of the Hill and the Bloodstone Emperor. The Brackens also were against the Blackwoods, cause they followed Brandon the Builder and his new ways. The Faith of the Seven and Church of Starry Wisdom when they first started before the schism. So probably different slightly than the Faiths as we know them today.

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The World of Ice and Fire - The North: The Kings of Winter

Amongst the houses reduced from royals to vassals we can count the Flints of Breakstone Hill, the Slates of Blackpool, the Umbers of Last Hearth, the Lockes of Oldcastle, the Glovers of Deepwood Motte, the Fishers of the Stony Shore, the Ryders of the Rills...and mayhaps even the Blackwoods of Raventree, whose own family traditions insist they once ruled most of the wolfswood before being driven from their lands by the Kings of Winter (certain runic records support this claim, if Maester Barneby's translations can be trusted).

 

       Uthor vs Argoth for Marris in first Tourney- Bran the Builder builds the Hightower (The kidnapping of the Sister)

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Garth Greenhand

Maris the Maid, the Most Fair, whose beauty was so renowned that fifty lords vied for her hand at the first tourney ever to be held in Westeros. (The victor was the Grey Giant, Argoth Stone-Skin, but Maris wed King Uthor of the High Tower before he could claim her, and Argoth spent the rest of his days raging outside the walls of Oldtown, roaring for his bride.)

 

           Durran vs (Grey King) for Elenai. Bran the Builder  builds Storms End (Brother weds sister after kidnapping)

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A Clash of Kings - Catelyn III

The songs said that Storm's End had been raised in ancient days by Durran, the first Storm King, who had won the love of the fair Elenei, daughter of the sea god and the goddess of the wind. On the night of their wedding, Elenei had yielded her maidenhood to a mortal's love and thus doomed herself to a mortal's death, and her grieving parents had unleashed their wrath and sent the winds and waters to batter down Durran's hold. His friends and brothers and wedding guests were crushed beneath collapsing walls or blown out to sea, but Elenei sheltered Durran within her arms so he took no harm, and when the dawn came at last he declared war upon the gods and vowed to rebuild.

Five more castles he built, each larger and stronger than the last, only to see them smashed asunder when the gale winds came howling up Shipbreaker Bay, driving great walls of water before them. His lords pleaded with him to build inland; his priests told him he must placate the gods by giving Elenei back to the sea; even his smallfolk begged him to relent. Durran would have none of it. A seventh castle he raised, most massive of all. Some said the children of the forest helped him build it, shaping the stones with magic; others claimed that a small boy told him what he must do, a boy who would grow to be Bran the Builder. No matter how the tale was told, the end was the same. Though the angry gods threw storm after storm against it, the seventh castle stood defiant, and Durran Godsgrief and fair Elenei dwelt there together until the end of their days.

 

2000 years ago -   Azor Ahai (Uthor- Hugor- Huzhor Amai- Azor Ahai who is Brandon the Builder, the Night's King.) , Dawn, the Wall, Battle for the Dawn.                               

                                    5th and last Ghiscari war

                                    Andal Invasion of Vale and Alyssa Arryn

                                   King Beyond the Wall uses sorcery to pass beyond the wall? Or This is when Gendel and Gorne existed? Walls of Winterfell possibly go up at this time possibly meaning Winterfell and Wall may have also.

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Wall and Beyond: The Wildlings

The brothers Gendel and Gorne were joint kings three thousand years ago. Leading their host down beneath the earth into a labyrinth of twisting subterranean caverns, they passed beneath the Wall unseen to attack the North. Gorne slew the Stark king in battle, then was killed in turn by the king's heir, and Gendel and his remaining wildlings fled back to their caverns, never to been seen again.

The Horned Lord would follow them, a thousand years after (or perhaps two). His name is lost to history, but he was said to have used sorcery to pass the Wall. 

 

 

Dawn Forged (Forged during end of Long Night)- Battle for the Dawn

 

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You've mentioned that Dawn has an illustrious history -- is there a ballpark figure for how long the Daynes and/or Starfall/Dawn have existed?

Oh, I'd say Dawn goes back a couple thousand years... and before that, things get a little fuzzy anyway.

http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Category/C91/P75/

 

 Inner Walls of Winterfell built- Winterfell and Wall raised

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The World of Ice and Fire - The North: Winterfell

The inner walls, which were once the only defensive walls, are estimated to be some two thousand years old,and perhaps some sections are older still. In later years, a defensive moat was dug around them, then a second wall was raised beyond the moat, giving the castle a formidable defense. The inner walls stand a hundred feet high, the outer walls eighty; any attacker who succeeded in capturing the outer wall would still find defenders on the inner walls loosing spears and stones and arrows down at him.

 

 

1736 years ago - Scouring of Lorath in defense of Norvos

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Free Cities: Lorath

Distances meant little and less to the dragonlords in the summer of their power, however. It is written in The Fires of the Freehold that a hundred dragons took to the skies, following the great river north to descend upon the Andals as they lay siege to Norvos. Qarlon the Great burned with his army, and afterward the dragonlords flew onward, bringing blood and fire to the isles of Lorath. Qarlon's great keep went up in flames, as did the towns and fishing villages along his shores. Even the great stones of the mazes were scorched and blackened by the firestorms that swept across the islands. It is said that not a man, woman, or child survived the Scouring of Lorath, so hot did those fires burn.

Thereafter the Lorathi isles remained uninhabited for more than a century.

 

 

1636 years ago - Boash on Lorath

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Free Cities: Lorath

Thereafter the Lorathi isles remained uninhabited for more than a century. Seals and walrus returned in great numbers, and crabs scuttled through the scorched and silent mazes. Whalers from the Port of Ibben put ashore to mend their hulls or find freshwater, but they never ventured inland, for the islands were said to be haunted, and the Ibbenese believed any man accursed who went beyond the sound of the sea.

When men at last returned to the isles to live, they were men from Valyria itself. Thirteen hundred and twenty-two years before the Doom, a sect of religious dissidents left the Freehold to establish a temple upon Lorath's main isle.

 

1300 years ago - Andals take Old Town and Hightowers, bringing Glass Candles with them and Exiling House Manderly

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A Feast for Crows - Prologue

The Lord's Sept joined in a moment later, then the Seven Shrines from their gardens across the Honeywine, and finally the Starry Sept that had been the seat of the High Septon for a thousand years before Aegon landed at King's Landing. 

The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Oldtown

When the Andals came, the Hightowers were amongst the first lords of Westeros to welcome them. "Wars are bad for trade," said Lord Dorian Hightower, when he set aside his wife of twenty years, the mother of his children, to take an Andal princess as his bride. His grandson Lord Damon (the Devout) was the first to accept the Faith. To honor the new gods, he built the first sept in Oldtown and six more elsewhere in his realm. When he died prematurely of a bad belly, Septon Robeson became regent for his newborn son, ruling Oldtown in all but name for the next twenty years and ultimately becoming the first High Septon. The boy he raised and trained, Lord Triston Hightower, raised the Starry Sept in his honor after his passing.

A Game of Thrones - Bran VII

"The Andals were the first, a race of tall, fair-haired warriors who came with steel and fire and the seven-pointed star of the new gods painted on their chests. The wars lasted hundreds of years, but in the end the six southron kingdoms all fell before them

 

The World of Ice and Fire - The North: The Kings of Winter

It was not until some thousand years before the Conquest, when the fugitive Manderlys came to the North and swore their oaths at the Wolf's Den, that the problem of the defense of the White Knife—the river that provides access into the very heart of the North—was resolved with the creation of White Harbor.

A Feast for Crows - Prologue

A hush fell over the torchlit terrace. Armen sighed and shook his head. Mollander began to laugh. The Sphinx studied Leo with his big black eyes. Roone looked lost.

Pate knew about the glass candles, though he had never seen one burn. They were the worst-kept secret of the Citadel. It was said that they had been brought to Oldtown from Valyria a thousand years before the Doom. He had heard there were four; one was green and three were black, and all were tall and twisted.

 

 

Falcon Crown made and first worn by Ser Artys Arryn (Crowned in Old Town?)

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reign of the Dragons: The Conquest

The two queens smiled at one another and exchanged courtesies instead. Then Lady Sharra sent for the three crowns (her own regent's coronet, her son's small crown, and the Falcon Crown of Mountain and Vale that the Arryn kings had worn for a thousand years), and surrendered them to Queen Visenya, along with the swords of her garrison. And it was said afterward that the little king flew thrice about the summit of the Giant's Lance and landed to find himself a little lord. Thus did Visenya Targaryen bring the Vale of Arryn into her brother's realm.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Vale: House Arryn

The true tale of House Arryn contains neither giants nor griffins nor huge falcons, yet from the day Ser Artys first donned the Falcon Crown to the present, they have rightly held a storied place in the history of the Seven Kingdoms. 

 

 

 Start of Rhoynish wars same century in 1250

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: Ten Thousand Ships

 Beldecar's History of the Rhoynish Wars is without equal in describing these conflicts, which stretched over the best part of two and a half centuries.

 

 

1000 years ago - Boash die out on Lorath- now Valyrian colony

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Free Cities: Lorath

 

An essential part of their doctrine was an extreme abnegation of self; only by freeing themselves of human vanity could men hope to become one with the godhood. Accordingly, the Boash'i put aside even their own names, and spoke of themselves as "a man" or "a woman" rather than say "I" or "me" or "mine." Though the cult of the Blind God withered and died out more than a thousand years ago, certain of these habits of speech endure even now in Lorath, where men and women of the noble classes regard it as inutterably vulgar to speak of one's self directly.

 

 End of Rhoynish Wars and flight of Nymeria

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: Ten Thousand Ships

Higher on the Rhoyne, in Ny Sar, Princess Nymeria soon received the news of Garin's shattering defeat and the enslavement of the people of Chroyane and Sar Mell. The same fate awaited her own city, she saw. Accordingly, she gathered every ship that remained upon the Rhoyne, large or small, and filled them full of as many women and children as they could carry (for almost all the men of fighting age had marched with Garin, and died). Down the river Nymeria led this ragged fleet, past ruined and smoking towns and fields of the dead, through waters choked with bloated, floating corpses. To avoid Volantis and its hosts, she chose the older channel and emerged into the Summer Sea where once Sarhoy had stood.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Free Cities: Volantis

 

For much of its early history, Volantis benefited from the trade between Valyria and the Rhoynar, waxing ever more prosperous and powerful...whilst Sarhoy, the ancient and beautiful Rhoynish city that had previously dominated that commerce, suffered a corresponding decline. Inevitably, this led the two cities into conflict. The long series of wars that followed, the details of which have been recounted elsewhere, culminated with the utter destruction of the cities of the Rhoyne and the flight of Nymeria and her ten thousand ships. Though the dragonlords of Valyria won the victory, it is rightly said that Volantis was the principal beneficiary. Sarhoy remains in ruins to this day, a desolate and haunted place, whilst Volantis, with its Long Bridge and Black Walls and huge harbor, ranks amongst the great cities of the world.

 

The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: Ten Thousand Ships

This series of conflicts reached a bloody climax a thousand years ago in the Second Spice War, when three Valyrian dragonlords joined with their kin and cousins in Volantis to overwhelm, sack, and destroy Sarhoy, the great Rhoynar port city upon the Summer Sea. The warriors of Sarhoy were slaughtered savagely, their children carried off into slavery, and their proud pink city put to the torch. Afterward the Volantenes sowed the smoking ruins with salt so that Sarhoy might never rise again.

 

 

Last of the Jhogwin, the Stone Giants of the Bone Mountains.

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond

Even the snowcapped northernmost peaks (known as Krazaaj Zasqa or White Mountains in the Dothraki tongue), where the cold winds come howling off the Shivering Sea winter and summer, were once home to the Jhogwin, the stone giants, massive creatures said to have been twice as large as the giants of Westeros. Alas, the last of the Jhogwin disappeared a thousand years ago; only their massive bones remain to mark where they once roamed.

 

King Beyond the Wall uses sorcery to pass beyond the wall?

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Wall and Beyond: The Wildlings

The brothers Gendel and Gorne were joint kings three thousand years ago. Leading their host down beneath the earth into a labyrinth of twisting subterranean caverns, they passed beneath the Wall unseen to attack the North. Gorne slew the Stark king in battle, then was killed in turn by the king's heir, and Gendel and his remaining wildlings fled back to their caverns, never to been seen again.

The Horned Lord would follow them, a thousand years after (or perhaps two). His name is lost to history, but he was said to have used sorcery to pass the Wall. 

 

68th and last yellow emperor

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond: Yi Ti

    Today Yin is once more the capital of Yi Ti. There the seventeenth azure emperor Bu Gai sits in splendor in a palace larger than all King's Landing. Yet far to the east, well beyond the borders of the Golden Empire proper, past the legendary Mountains of the Morn, in the city Carcosa on the Hidden Sea, dwells in exile a sorcerer lord who claims to be the sixty-ninth yellow emperor, from a dynasty fallen for a thousand years.

 

800 years ago - Ironborn speak of lost ships and battles lost 800 years ago (Iron born Decline)

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A Feast for Crows - The Drowned Man

It was a good beginning. Aeron heard shouts of approval, but they dwindled as the old man began to tell of the glory of the Drumms. He spoke of Dale the Dread, Roryn the Reaver, the hundred sons of Gormond Drumm the Oldfather. He drew Red Rain and told them how Hilmar Drumm the Cunning had taken the blade from an armored knight with wits and a wooden cudgel. He spoke of ships long lost and battles eight hundred years forgotten, and the crowd grew restive. He spoke and spoke, and then he spoke still more.

 

600 years ago - Scouring of Hardhome (By Valyria?)

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Wall and Beyond: The Wildlings

 

Hardhome was once the only settlement approaching a town in the lands beyond the Wall, sheltered on Storrold's Point and commanding a deepwater harbor. But six hundred years ago, it was burned and its people destroyed, though the Watch cannot say for a certainty what happened. 

 

The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Doom of Valyria

With the destruction of the Rhoynar, Valyria soon achieved complete domination of the western half of Essos, from the narrow sea to Slaver's Bay, and from the Summer Sea to the Shivering Sea. Slaves poured into the Freehold and were quickly dispatched beneath the Fourteen Flames to mine the precious gold and silver the freeholders loved so well. Perhaps in preparation for their crossing of the narrow sea, the Valyrians also established their westernmost outpost on the isle that would come to be known as Dragonstone some two hundred years before the Doom. 

 

 

Valyria takes Dragonstone

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reign of the Dragons: The Conquest

Yet even so, for the best part of a hundred years after the Doom of Valyria (the rightly named Century of Blood), House Targaryen looked east, not west, and took little interest in the affairs of Westeros.

 

A Feast for Crows - Samwell I

. Four hundred years before the Conquest. Osric Stark was ten when he was chosen, but he served for sixty years. That's four, my lord. You're not even close to being the youngest ever chosen. You're fifth youngest, so far."

 

A Storm of Swords - Jon VII

did you know that six hundred years ago, the commanders at Snowgate and the Nightfort went to war against each other? And when the Lord Commander tried to stop them, they joined forces to murder him? The Stark in Winterfell had to take a hand . . . and both their heads. Which he did easily, because their strongholds were not defensible.

 

 

House Frey installed at Neck to Control movements North or South (By Valyria?)

 

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A Game of Thrones - Catelyn IX

Robb's neck reddened at the rebuke. "Tell me what you mean, Mother," he said meekly.

"The Freys have held the crossing for six hundred years, and for six hundred years they have never failed to exact their toll."

 

 

 Quill and tankard open in Old Town

 

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A Feast for Crows - Prologue

The Quill and Tankard never closed. For six hundred years it had been standing on its island in the Honeywine, and never once had its doors been shut to trade. 

 

 

500 years ago - Gates of Wall sealed

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A Dance with Dragons - Jon IV

"And wildlings, and darker things," said Marsh. "I would not send out hunters, my lord. I would not."

No. You would close our gates forever and seal them up with stone and ice. Half of Castle Black agreed with the Lord Steward's views, he knew. The other half heaped scorn on them. "Seal our gates and plant your fat black arses on the Wall, aye, and the free folk'll come swarming o'er the Bridge o' Skulls or through some gate you thought you'd sealed five hundred years ago," the old forester Dywen had declared loudly over supper, two nights pas

 

 

5-400 years ago - Valyrian steel blades in Westeros. Mormonts get one, but Lannisters must pay a heavy price for one.

 

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A Game of Thrones - Jon IV

The Tarlys were a family old in honor, bannermen to Mace Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden and Warden of the South. The eldest son of Lord Randyll Tarly, Samwell was born heir to rich lands, a strong keep, and a storied two-handed greatsword named Heartsbane, forged of Valyrian steel and passed down from father to son near five hundred years.

 

A Game of Thrones - Jon VIII

"It is," the Old Bear told him. "It was my father's sword, and his father's before him. The Mormonts have carried it for five centuries. I wielded it in my day and passed it on to my son when I took the black."

A Game of Thrones - Catelyn I

It had been forged in Valyria, before the Doom had come to the old Freehold, when the ironsmiths had worked their metal with spells as well as hammers. Four hundred years old it was, and as sharp as the day it was forged. The name it bore was older still, a legacy from the age of heroes, when the Starks were Kings in the North.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Westerlands

The sword Brightroar came into the possession of the Lannister kings in the century before the Doom, and it is said that the weight of gold they paid for it would have been enough to raise an army. But it was lost little more than a century later, when Tommen II carried it with him when he sailed with his great fleet to ruined Valyria, with the intention of plundering the wealth and sorcery he was sure still remained. The fleet never returned, nor Tommen, nor Brightroar.

 

 

412 years ago - House Targaryen exiled 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reign of the Dragons: The Conquest

Of the five dragons who had flown with Aenar the Exile from Valyria, only one survived to Aegon's day: the great beast called Balerion, the Black Dread. The remaining two dragons—Vhagar and Meraxes—were younger, hatched on Dragonstone itself.

A Feast for Crows - Samwell I

The book appeared undamaged. Maester Thomax's Dragonkin, Being a History of House Targaryen from Exile to Apotheosis, with a Consideration of the Life and Death of Dragons had not been so fortunate. It had come open as it fell, and a few pages had gotten muddy, including one with a rather nice picture of Balerion the Black Dread done in colored inks. 

 

400 years ago - Doom of Valyria possibly due to Lannister gold to the Faceless Men

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A Feast for Crows - Arya II

"Who was he?" Arya blurted, before she stopped to think.

"No one," he answered. "Some say he was a slave himself. Others insist he was a freeholder's son, born of noble stock. Some will even tell you he was an overseer who took pity on his charges. The truth is, no one knows. Whoever he was, he moved amongst the slaves and would hear them at their prayers. Men of a hundred different nations labored in the mines, and each prayed to his own god in his own tongue, yet all were praying for the same thing. It was release they asked for, an end to pain. A small thing, and simple. Yet their gods made no answer, and their suffering went on. Are their gods all deaf? he wondered . . . until a realization came upon him, one night in the red darkness.

"All gods have their instruments, men and women who serve them and help to work their will on earth. The slaves were not crying out to a hundred different gods, as it seemed, but to one god with a hundred different faces . . . and he was that god's instrument. That very night he chose the most wretched of the slaves, the one who had prayed most earnestly for release, and freed him from his bondage. The first gift had been given."

Arya drew back from him. "He killed the slave?" That did not sound right. "He should have killed the masters!"

"He would bring the gift to them as well . . . but that is a tale for another day, one best shared with no one." He cocked his head. "And who are you, child?"

 

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A Dance with Dragons - The Blind Girl

 

She had said as much to the kindly man. "And are you a god, to decide who should live and who should die?" he asked her. "We give the gift to those marked by Him of Many Faces, after prayers and sacrifice. So has it always been, from the beginning. I have told you of the founding of our order, of how the first of us answered the prayers of slaves who wished for death. The gift was given only to those who yearned for it, in the beginning … but one day, the first of us heard a slave praying not for his own death but for his master's. So fervently did he desire this that he offered all he had, that his prayer might be answered. And it seemed to our first brother that this sacrifice would be pleasing to Him of Many Faces, so that night he granted the prayer. Then he went to the slave and said, 'You offered all you had for this man's death, but slaves have nothing but their lives. That is what the god desires of you. For the rest of your days on earth, you will serve him.' And from that moment, we were two." His hand closed around her arm, gently but firmly. "All men must die. We are but death's instruments, not death himself. When you slew the singer, you took god's powers on yourself. We kill men, but we do not presume to judge them. Do you understand?"

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Doom of Valyria

A handful of maesters, influenced by fragments of the work of Septon Barth, hold that Valyria had used spells to tame the Fourteen Flames for thousands of years, that their ceaseless hunger for slaves and wealth was as much to sustain these spells as to expand their power, and that when at last those spells faltered, the cataclysm became inevitable.

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Westerlands

 

The wealth of the westerlands was matched, in ancient times, with the hunger of the Freehold of Valyria for precious metals, yet there seems no evidence that the dragonlords ever made contact with the lords of the Rock, Casterly or Lannister. Septon Barth speculated on the matter, referring to a Valyrian text that has since been lost, suggesting that the Freehold's sorcerers foretold that the gold of Casterly Rock would destroy them. Archmaester Perestan has put forward a different, more plausible speculation, suggesting that the Valyrians had in ancient days reached as far as Oldtown but suffered some great reverse or tragedy there that caused them to shun all of Westeros thereafter.

 

300 years ago - Aegon's Conquest 

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A Storm of Swords - Sansa IV

"There will be wine at the breakfast, my lord," Sansa said.

"There's wine here. You don't expect me to face my sister sober, surely? It's a new century, my lady. The three hundredth year since Aegon's Conquest."

The World of Ice and Fire - The Reign of the Dragons: The Conquest

Even the start date is a matter of some misconception. Many assume, wrongly, that the reign of King Aegon I Targaryen began on the day he landed at the mouth of the Blackwater Rush, beneath the three hills where the city of King's Landing eventually stood. Not so. The day of Aegon's Landing was celebrated by the king and his descendants, but the Conqueror actually dated the start of his reign from the day he was crowned and anointed in the Starry Sept of Oldtown by the High Septon of the Faith. This coronation took place two years after Aegon's Landing, well after all three of the major battles of the Wars of Conquest had been fought and won. Thus it can be seen that most of Aegon's actual conquering took place from 2-1 BC, Before the Conquest.

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So here we circle back to the cyclic story of  2 brothers at war for their sister/Throne that was The Grey King vs Durran for Nissa Nissa/ Elenai

________The Three Heads of Rhaegar's  Dragon___________

 

R+L= J                                         Jon is the child of Rheagar and Lyanna Stark

the-dayne-heiress-daenerys        Daenerys is the child of Rhaegar and Ashara Dayne

aegon-vi-targaryen                      Aegon is the child of Rhaegar and Elia Martel

 

Shown to us through Serwyn of the Mirror Shield and Aemon the Dragon Knight and what is said about them, beginning with Serwyn.

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Long Night

Archmaester Fomas's Lies of the Ancients—though little regarded these days for its erroneous claims regarding the founding of Valyria and certain lineal claims in the Reach and westerlands—

 

The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: The Gardener Kings

In those centuries of trial and tumult, the Reach produced many a fearless warrior. From that day to this, the singers have celebrated the deeds of knights like Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, Davos the Dragonslayer, Roland of the Horn, and the Knight Without Armor—and the legendary kings who led them, among them Garth V (Hammer of the Dornish), Gwayne I (the Gallant), Gyles I (the Woe), Gareth II (the Grim), Garth VI (the Morningstar), and Gordan I (Grey-Eyes).

 

The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Age of Heroes

 But when the singers number Serwyn of the Mirror Shield as one of the Kingsguard—an institution that was only formed during the reign of Aegon the Conqueror—we can see why it is that few of these tales can ever be trusted. The septons who first wrote them down took what details suited them and added others, and the singers changed them—sometimes beyond all recognition—for the sake of a warm place in some lord's hall. In such a way does some longdead First Man become a knight who follows the Seven and guards the Targaryen kings thousands of years after he lived (if he ever did). The legion of boys and youths made ignorant of the past history of Westeros by these foolish tales cannot be numbered.

 

Serwyn who is constantly paired with Aemon the Dragon Knight

 

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A Game of Thrones - Bran II

There were only seven of them, and they wore white armor and had no wives or children, but lived only to serve the king. Bran knew all the stories. Their names were like music to him. Serwyn of the Mirror Shield. Ser Ryam Redwyne. Prince Aemon the Dragonknight. The twins Ser Erryk and Ser Arryk, who had died on one another's swords hundreds of years ago, when brother fought sister in the war the singers called the Dance of the Dragons. 

 

A Game of Thrones - Sansa I

The way he had rescued her from Ser Ilyn and the Hound, why, it was almost like the songs, like the time Serwyn of the Mirror Shield saved the Princess Daeryssa from the giants, or Prince Aemon the Dragonknight championing Queen Naerys's honor against evil Ser Morgil's slanders.

 

A Clash of Kings - Tyrion I

The smallfolk talk of him in the same way they talk of Serwyn of the Mirror Shield and Prince Aemon the Dragonknight. 

 

A Storm of Swords - Sansa VI

 

"I also planted the notion of Ser Loras taking the white. Not that I suggested it, that would have been too crude. But men in my party supplied grisly tales about how the mob had killed Ser Preston Greenfield and raped the Lady Lollys, and slipped a few silvers to Lord Tyrell's army of singers to sing of Ryam Redwyne, Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, and Prince Aemon the Dragonknight. A harp can be as dangerous as a sword, in the right hands.

 

The Hedge Knight

Dunk stared at the grassy lists and the empty chairs on the viewing stand and pondered his chances. One victory was all he needed; then he could name himself one of the champions of Ashford Meadow, if only for an hour. The old man had lived nigh on sixty years and had never been a champion. It is not too much to hope for, if the gods are good. He thought back on all the songs he had heard, songs of blind Symeon Star-Eyes and noble Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, of Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, Ser Ryam Redywne, and Florian the Fool. They had all won victories against foes far more terrible than any he would face. But they were great heroes, brave men of noble birth, except for Florian. And what am I?

 

 

Prince Aemon Targaryen was also a Knight in the Kingsguard to his Brother, and loved his brothers wife, the Queen. Just like part of what is said about Serwyn. So Serwyn was possibly a Knight in the Kingsguard to his brother the King, and loved his brothers wife, the Queen. Rescuing her from Dragons and Giants.

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Serwyn of the Mirror Shield as one of the Kingsguard, In such a way does some long dead First Man become a knight who follows the Seven and guards the Targaryen kings thousands of years after he lived (if he ever did).

 

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A Game of Thrones - Sansa I

it was almost like the songs, like the time Serwyn of the Mirror Shield saved the Princess Daeryssa from the giants,

 

A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion III

"No doubt. Well, Hugor Hill, answer me this. How did Serwyn of the Mirror Shield slay the dragon Urrax?"

 

 

Serwyn is also linked to Florian which leads us back into magical famous swords

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The Hedge Knight

Dunk stared at the grassy lists and the empty chairs on the viewing stand and pondered his chances. One victory was all he needed; then he could name himself one of the champions of Ashford Meadow, if only for an hour. The old man had lived nigh on sixty years and had never been a champion. It is not too much to hope for, if the gods are good. He thought back on all the songs he had heard, songs of blind Symeon Star-Eyes and noble Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, of Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, Ser Ryam Redywne, and Florian the Fool.

 

 

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The Hedge Knight

"A fool and a knight?" said Jonquil. "I have never heard of such a thing."

"Sweet lady," said Florian, "all men are fools, and all men are knights, where women are concerned."

It was a good show, sad and sweet both, with a sprightly swordfight at the end, and a nicely painted giant. When it was over, the fat woman went among the crowd to collect coins while the girl packed away the puppets.

"That was good," Egg enthused. "I like how you make them move, Jonquil and the dragon and all. I saw a puppet show last year, but they moved all jerky. Yours are more smooth."

The puppeteer's stall had been knocked on its side. The fat Dornishwoman was on the ground weeping.

One man-at-arms was dangling the puppets of Florian and Jonquil from his hands as another set them afire with a torch. Three more men were opening chests, spilling more puppets on the ground and stamping on them. The dragon puppet was scattered all about them, a broken wing here, its head there, its tail in three pieces.

 

 

So Florian, like Serwyn, fought a giant and a dragon with a magical famous sword. Also linked to Florian and Aemon is Ser Galladon of Morne.

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A Feast for Crows - Brienne I

Valyrian steel, spell-forged. It was a sword fit for a hero. When she was small, her nurse had filled her ears with tales of valor, regaling her with the noble exploits of Ser Galladon of Morne, Florian the Fool, Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, and other champions. Each man bore a famous sword, and surely Oathkeeper belonged in their company, even if she herself did not. "You'll be defending Ned Stark's daughter with Ned Stark's own steel," Jaime had promised.

 

 

And what is said of Ser Galladon of Morne?

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A Feast for Crows - Brienne IV

"Ser Galladon was a champion of such valor that the Maiden herself lost her heart to him. She gave him an enchanted sword as a token of her love. The Just Maid, it was called. No common sword could check her, nor any shield withstand her kiss. Ser Galladon bore the Just Maid proudly, but only thrice did he unsheathe her. He would not use the Maid against a mortal man, for she was so potent as to make any fight unfair."

 

So not only do we have a falling star in the Maiden falling in love, but we also have our magical famous sword. Drawn only three times and never against a mortal man. Hmmm

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A Clash of Kings - Davos I

 

"Burnt," said Salladhor Saan, "and be glad of that, my friend. Do you know the tale of the forging of Lightbringer? I shall tell it to you. It was a time when darkness lay heavy on the world. To oppose it, the hero must have a hero's blade, oh, like none that had ever been. And so for thirty days and thirty nights Azor Ahai labored sleepless in the temple, forging a blade in the sacred fires. Heat and hammer and fold, heat and hammer and fold, oh, yes, until the sword was done. Yet when he plunged it into water to temper the steel it burst asunder.

"Being a hero, it was not for him to shrug and go in search of excellent grapes such as these, so again he began. The second time it took him fifty days and fifty nights, and this sword seemed even finer than the first. Azor Ahai captured a lion, to temper the blade by plunging it through the beast's red heart, but once more the steel shattered and split. Great was his woe and great was his sorrow then, for he knew what he must do.

"A hundred days and a hundred nights he labored on the third blade, and as it glowed white-hot in the sacred fires, he summoned his wife. 'Nissa Nissa,' he said to her, for that was her name, 'bare your breast, and know that I love you best of all that is in this world.' She did this thing, why I cannot say, and Azor Ahai thrust the smoking sword through her living heart. It is said that her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon, but her blood and her soul and her strength and her courage all went into the steel. Such is the tale of the forging of Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes.

 

1. Water = Ice - Others

2 Lion = Cat's Eye - CotF

3 Nissa Nissa = Not mortal????? Hmmmm

 

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           In the moment when Nissa Nissa was stabbed, this is what happened:

“It is said that her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon.”

Now as the Other writhed in pain, this is what Sam witnessed and heard:

“He heard a crack, like the sound ice makes when it breaks beneath a man’s foot, and then a screech so shrill andsharp…”

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/149280-old-nissa-nissa-theory-with-new-evidence/&page=1

 

As pointed out by @Alabastur      

 

Like a parallel between the Other's dying, and Nissa Nissa being stabbed. 

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A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion II

Tyrion thought of Tysha. He glanced out at the fields where once the gods had walked. "What sort of gods make rats and plagues and dwarfs?" Another passage from The Seven-Pointed Star came back to him. "The Maid brought him forth a girl as supple as a willow with eyes like deep blue pools, and Hugor declared that he would have her for his bride. So the Mother made her fertile, and the Crone foretold that she would bear the king four-and-forty mighty sons. The Warrior gave strength to their arms, whilst the Smith wrought for each a suit of iron plates."

 

Who had blue eyes and gave 44 sons. There are 44 Nagga's ribs.

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A Storm of Swords - Bran IV

Yes, thought Bran, but it's blocked by stone and ice.

As the sun began to set the shadows of the towers lengthened and the wind blew harder, sending gusts of dry dead leaves rattling through the yards. The gathering gloom put Bran in mind of another of Old Nan's stories, the tale of Night's King. He had been the thirteenth man to lead the Night's Watch, she said; a warrior who knew no fear. "And that was the fault in him," she would add, "for all men must know fear." A woman was his downfall; a woman glimpsed from atop the Wall, with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars. Fearing nothing, he chased her and caught her and loved her, though her skin was cold as ice, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.

 

This brings us back to Uthor- Hugor- Huzhor Amai- Azor Ahai who is Brandon the Builder. 

 

Any other siblings fighting over another? Who may have been the path to the throne?

Visenya vs Rhaenys for Aegon I

Aemon vs Aegon IV for Naerys

Daemon vs Daeron for Daenerys

Bittersteel vs Bloodraven for Shiera

Rhae vs Daella for Aegon V

Stannis vs Renly for a throne

Jon vs Aegon VI for Daenerys. 

The Grey King vs Durran for Nissa Nissa/Elenai

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[OtherFromAnotherMother]

15 minutes ago, AlaskanSandman said:

I had literally every thing done and so much more than this, but this fricking site keeps glitching out max and deleting stuff left and right. 

Sorry it's not done, again!!! So f@cking irritated beyond belief.

Not ready for comments as it was supposed to be complete beforrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you saw it all so you didnt have to see me piece it together but hey. Not my fault this site does this

 

15 minutes ago, AlaskanSandman said:

Big middle fingers up high right now, seriously 

 

 

10 minutes ago, AlaskanSandman said:

Please no comments, serio. Let it fade it the list till i can add everything that got erased. Then ill repost again after i just copy and paste. That'll be the easiest with how glitchy this sites being or it was my computer on the off chance, but only have problems here. Repeatedly.

If this site is so bad, why don't you go to a different one?

[AlaskanSandman]

Of course there would be somebody smh. I just explained it all so that people reading it would understand and NOT COMMENT. But thank you for you input.

[AlaskanSandman]

FYI - Site and apps have their issues, it's no reason to stop using them. Often they are just that, temporary issues that are just an inconvenience. Im not butt hurt  hating on the site as a whole. Im irritated at the glitch. Ill live and press on.

[OtherFromAnotherMother]

4 minutes ago, AlaskanSandman said:

Of course there would be somebody smh. I just explained it all so that people reading it would understand and NOT COMMENT. But thank you for you input.

It wasn't really input, it was a question. Either way, you're welcome. 

[zandru]

TL;DR

[Ralphis Baratheon]

Maybe you have already thought of this but have you considered writing this all on something like microsoft word/google docs first, then copy and paste it to your post?  Also when posting a theory that has a large amount of text it sometimes helps to start the post off with a short summary of what the general idea of the theory is and what it means to the overall story.

[OtherFromAnotherMother]

7 minutes ago, Ralphis Baratheon said:

Also when posting a theory that has a large amount of text it sometimes helps to start the post off with a short summary of what the general idea of the theory is and what it means to the overall story.

Absolutely, including a recognizable thesis statement. 

[AlaskanSandman]

57 minutes ago, zandru said:

TL;DR

 

 

16 minutes ago, Ralphis Baratheon said:

Maybe you have already thought of this but have you considered writing this all on something like microsoft word/google docs first, then copy and paste it to your post?  Also when posting a theory that has a large amount of text it sometimes helps to start the post off with a short summary of what the general idea of the theory is and what it means to the overall story.

 

6 minutes ago, OtherFromAnotherMother said:

Absolutely, including a recognizable thesis statement. 

 

Did no one read my post title??????????????????

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Ignore not ready, half my post erased and have to add back. Sorry

It had all of that

This post is not meant to be a short read either. This is the accumulation of all my theories into a big picture to show what im talking about. This was covered in my header. Which i will reconstruct in time as i can and repost as i've already explained

[Ralphis Baratheon]

4 hours ago, AlaskanSandman said:

Did no one read my post title??????????????????

Yes but then you yourself replied 3 times after the post was made, basically ignoring your own request of no replies. Replies about how your frustrated with the site claiming it messed up your post. All I did was give a suggestion of how you could avoid having it happen again in the future. Shame on me and @OtherFromAnotherMother I guess for trying to be helpful. 

[desire]

When you go to read a book and someone ripped out the climax page LIFE 

[AlaskanSandman]

24 minutes ago, Ralphis Baratheon said:

Yes but then you yourself replied 3 times after the post was made, basically ignoring your own request of no replies. Replies about how your frustrated with the site claiming it messed up your post. All I did was give a suggestion of how you could avoid having it happen again in the future. Shame on me and @OtherFromAnotherMother I guess for trying to be helpful. 

More just responding to the tail end of what you said. The rest i appreciate and even the bit about it being long, just the rest is repetitive is all. That was just a blanket statement trying to summarize that it didn't post proper and half of it's missing. So yes, i know it reads really weird right now. And no, only you really offered constructive input, though, i had hoped for none as i titled it. 

And i know, shame on me. That's like putting a sign up saying dont touch. Some people can't resist them selves. 

As far as your first part, yes i have. I just get lazy (as this already takes hours to collect and construct) and hate doing extra steps. Though, this is a good example of why to do just that  

And im not sorry for people who are just snarky trolls, not the least. 

[AlaskanSandman]

39 minutes ago, Ralphis Baratheon said:

Yes but then you yourself replied 3 times after the post was made, basically ignoring your own request of no replies

And that's not fair lol i just did that to explain it to any one who did happen to open it and read.

And as far as me complaining about the site doing it, oh well. People can just relax and im sure Elio doesn't take it personal. 

Facebook has glitches, you dont stop using facebook do you?

Walmart has stupid people, still no reason to stop going to Walmart. 

 

[OtherFromAnotherMother]

3 hours ago, AlaskanSandman said:

So yes, i know it reads really weird right now. 

If I'm being honest it looks like most of your OPs. I feel like you have some good ideas in a lot of your OPs but it is typed up in a jumbled, unorganized manner that people don't know the main message of what you are trying to say. There is usually no thesis, just a body of quotes and writing pulled together to get something down, but the reader is left trying to figure out what exactly the main point is. There is usually no concluding statement, either. Again, sometimes there is some good stuff in your OP, but when the reader doesn't know what the message/goal/argument is, it makes it difficult to absorb. And it is pribably being absirbed in a way which you did not intend. The writing probably makes sense to you, because you are the one writing it, but to the reader it is like a pile of puzzle pieces which may, or may not, fit together.

I hope you take this as constructive criticism. I sometimes read your OPs and want to respond but I'm not sure that I even understand what you are saying. I know I can't be the only reader who feels this way. I am assuming you want some conversation about your OPs otherwise why post them? 

Good luck on getting this one finished. Cheers!

[zandru]

5 hours ago, AlaskanSandman said:

I just get lazy (as this already takes hours to collect and construct) and hate doing extra steps

Well, of course you do. Let the potential readers figure it out!

5 hours ago, AlaskanSandman said:

And im not sorry for people who are just snarky trolls, not the least. 

Nor should you be. It really is its own reward. Just like yours is! Enjoy, and "happy holidays". Whichever ones you celebrate.

[AlaskanSandman]

8 hours ago, OtherFromAnotherMother said:

If I'm being honest it looks like most of your OPs. I feel like you have some good ideas in a lot of your OPs but it is typed up in a jumbled, unorganized manner that people don't know the main message of what you are trying to say. There is usually no thesis, just a body of quotes and writing pulled together to get something down, but the reader is left trying to figure out what exactly the main point is. There is usually no concluding statement, either. Again, sometimes there is some good stuff in your OP, but when the reader doesn't know what the message/goal/argument is, it makes it difficult to absorb. And it is pribably being absirbed in a way which you did not intend. The writing probably makes sense to you, because you are the one writing it, but to the reader it is like a pile of puzzle pieces which may, or may not, fit together.

I hope you take this as constructive criticism. I sometimes read your OPs and want to respond but I'm not sure that I even understand what you are saying. I know I can't be the only reader who feels this way. I am assuming you want some conversation about your OPs otherwise why post them? 

Good luck on getting this one finished. Cheers!

Now, while ill agree that im not much of  a writer

garths-children-and-their-war-of-love/

Says at top what it's about. Garth and his childrens war of love.

1-kingdom-1-curse-1-wall/

This one? About the the United Kingdom of Westeros, how it ties to Garths curse, and the Wall?

the-dayne-heiress-daenerys/

Dany as the child of Rhaegar and Ashara Dayne?

aegon-vi-targaryen/

This one about Aegon being a real Targaryen?

Jon, Daenerys, and Aegon are the current 2 brothers at war for their sister? Should be apparent at this point

andal-lies-and-the-signs-of-valyria

Lies of the Andals and their tie to Valyria? 

alternate-facts

a look at the alternate time line accounts and information?

 

Pretty sure each of these is mentioned in the Title and opening statements. 

This thread was to be the accumulation of these ideas into one thread. I didn't have the chance to explain that after the post got half erased. Took me time to get most of it back up but im still not done.

By no means though am i a writer or enjoy writing overtly long explanations. I try to keep it short and to the point to not drown people with further information as the quotes do most of the work. 

I do try to get better though. I do wish i had some one a little better i could work with lol 

[AlaskanSandman]

10 hours ago, zandru said:

Well, of course you do. Let the potential readers figure it out!

Nor should you be. It really is its own reward. Just like yours is! Enjoy, and "happy holidays". Whichever ones you celebrate.

Lol well im snarky sometime for sure but i try not to troll people haha Really yesterday i was just so frustrated at everything getting deleted as i stilll havn't gotten it all back up yet hahha.

I am debating splitting it though once it is, into part 1, 2, 3, and 4 threads i think. As i do understand what you mean about it being long.

I was thinking of the first part just covering the Empire of the Dawn family, who they are, and some signs of their migrations leading to Westeros. Which sets the stage for Garth the Green in Westeros. Their creation of Dragons and Dragon Steel well before Nissa Nissa and the Comet. Leading up to the Pact and the Curse on Garth.

The second part taking off from there with the history of Westeros and the Dawn Age up till the start of the Age of Heroes 3000 years ago, and End of the Long Night 2000 years ago. While discussing the children of Garth and their War of Love that is tied to the Valyrians vs Ghis, and Blackwoods vs Brackens.

The third part being an examination of Valyria and her activities in relation to Westeros and the activities of the Andals and the Faith. A look at Hard home and how it broke the Pact and Valyria's swift response, up to Valyria's destruction by the Faith.

The fourth part being about our current 2 brothers and sister, Jon, Dany and Aegon, how it relates to the ancient struggle of the 2 brothers and sister back then, and a look at how this is revealed through Serwyn of the Mirror Shield and Aemon the Dragon Knight. Along with Florian the Fool. This being the three heads of Rhaegar dragon. The cyclic story most of this wraps around.