Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (f)Arya Rescue Team - 7 (Abel and six women) - succeeded (Jeyne was rescued) Protectors of (f)Aegon - 7 - succeeded so far Martell party to Daenerys - 6 - failed Arianne's plot - 7 - failed Ned's party at the Tower of Joy - 7 - succeeded (by Nevets) Men sent to prevent Jon from deserting - 7 - succeeded (by Nevets) I remember Arianne's quote about travelling with 7 men in aFfC. So according to this information how many men/women would you take if you have secret plot in Westeros/Essos?   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Snow Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hmm, Littlefinger = 1, yet always seems to get his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Rufus Snow said: Hmm, Littlefinger = 1, yet always seems to get his way Lysa Arryn to poison Jon Arryn, Olenna Tyrell to poison Joffrey Baratheon, Sansa Stark to poison Robert Arryn (theory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Snow Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I hear you, but I don't accept anyone in Littlefinger's plots are ever on the 'inside' except himself. People may believe themselves to be plotting 'with' LF, but in reality he is just using them. That's what makes him so dangerous.  I don't have the exact quote to hand but he once tells Sansa that what he wants is 'everything' - ie there's no place for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Ned's party at the Tower of Joy - 7 - successful, albeit with high casualties Men sent to prevent Jon from deserting - 7 - successful Mance's mission to rescue Arya - 7 - successful, more or less. 7 looks like a pretty good number for success. Has religious significance as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1-Sam, convincing Cotter Pyke and Mallister to support Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 41 minutes ago, The Sunland Lord said: 1-Sam, convincing Cotter Pyke and Mallister to support Jon. What about Mormont's raven? He also played role in election of Jon as LC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphalesion Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Again, seven is an important number in Western society. Seeing it appear again and again in ASoIaF is neither some hidden code, nor is noticing it any sort of brilliant discovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 8 hours ago, Orphalesion said: Again, seven is an important number in Western society. Seeing it appear again and again in ASoIaF is neither some hidden code, nor is noticing it any sort of brilliant discovery. What about Northmen? They don't follow Seven and Ned took 6 men to ToJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waters Gate Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 The number 7 might have significance for about every religion if it has a connection to the night sky. The 7 day week for ex. is not a christian invention but already existed in Greek and roman times and it was derived from the 7 stellar bodies they knew besides earth, being the sun, the moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. The 7 in faith of the 7 is also supposedly derived from 7 prominent bodies in the night sky which might be similarly observed by other religions. Pretty much any religion tends to take inspiration from the night sky anyway, it's very natural for pre-modern humans to gaze to the stars and see something godly in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphalesion Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 6 hours ago, RedGrace that was promised said: What about Northmen? They don't follow Seven and Ned took 6 men to ToJ. Again, in the real world it has significance and that's all that matters, because GRRM lives in the real world. Medieval historie and convention, which he strives to imitate (which he does a very good job at) loved the numbers 3 and seven. Since the days of the Greeks heaps of things came in threes and sevens. . Particularly seven is a number that people used to hold in high reverence and that still crops up in lots of literature to convey a sense of completeness, sublimity, perfection. An example from Tolkien: Saruman accuses Gandalf of having designs to usurp the "Crowns of Seven Kings". In the west of Middle Earth, at the time that was spoken, you could not find seven kings if you searched for them under rocks, especially not any worth usurping. What Saruman was talking about was that he suspected Gandalf of wanting total domination over Middle Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 20 hours ago, Rufus Snow said: Hmm, Littlefinger = 1, yet always seems to get his way That's why he's good at keeping secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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