One-eyed Misbehavin Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 49 minutes ago, Jaehaerys Tyrell said: Wew boy. This never made sense to me. If Rhaegar had wanted Visenya-Aegon-Rhaenys he would’ve named Rhaenys Visenya. I didn't consider this once when thinking about Rhaegar and his magic/ancient prophecy stuff. Very nice point. I completely missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis-something-Rose Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 54 minutes ago, Jaehaerys Tyrell said: This never made sense to me. If Rhaegar had wanted Visenya-Aegon-Rhaenys he would’ve named Rhaenys Visenya. Your point about Visenya and then some. Just because this is what Dany thought, doesn't make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehaerys Tyrell Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 9 hours ago, One-eyed Misbehavin said: I didn't consider this once when thinking about Rhaegar and his magic/ancient prophecy stuff. Very nice point. I completely missed that Thank you, I’ve never seen anyone mention it before in these discussions and it just struck me as pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiko Dragonhorn Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Jaehaerys Tyrell said: Thank you, I’ve never seen anyone mention it before in these discussions and it just struck me as pretty obvious. Rhaegar simply knew that Rhaenys wouldn’t be a Visenya type when she was born... she had a gentle and frail mother (Elia). So Rhaegar found a mother more appropriate to make his Visenya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehaerys Tyrell Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Eiko Dragonhorn said: Rhaegar simply knew that Rhaenys wouldn’t be a Visenya type when she was born... she had a gentle and frail mother (Elia). So Rhaegar found a mother more appropriate to make his Visenya. Aegon was Elia’s son too. What’s to say any of his children would turn out like the Conqueror and his sisters? He could’ve had a Rhaenyra and a Daeron II for all he knew. Why would Rhaegar seek to recreate them anyway? They could’ve fulfilled prophecy by being their own individual people with their own personalities. He could have called them Suzie, Mike and Becky and they would’ve still fulfilled prophecy if they were ever going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowy Tends Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Varys is a merman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoplexy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Nowy Tends said: Varys is a merman You beat me to it! Also, Jojenpaste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Hold Em Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 This theory proposed by a few, "Sansa will become queen". Ridiculous. That girl has no business in a position of importance. She should be content cleaning Sweetrobin's fragrant bottom each time he does the #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acwill07 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 There are two: 1. Any theory where Jon's parents are anyone other than Rhaegar and Lyanna. The fact of the matter is, R + L = J, and some people just want to resist it for no reason. 2. The theory that Jon and Arya end up romantically involved. There is zero evidence to back this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Yozza Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, acwill07 said: 2. The theory that Jon and Arya end up romantically involved. There is zero evidence to back this up. There is a little, but it's almost certainly not gonna happen you're right. The only evidence we have for this is that they ended up together in George's original draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollygag Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Any theory which amounts to ~5000 to possibly ~ 8000 pages of text about dozens of prominent characters along with lots of material on the side is really about some tired love story between 2 characters (take your pick) and the series is all about going back to the start as if none of the story in between happened or even mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollygag Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 And that character X will end up exactly like their historical counterpart Y because instead of history inspiring parts of ASOIAF, ASOIAF is the enormous and grueling rewrite of rl history with dragons and direwolves just thrown in for funnsies, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/8/2017 at 3:25 AM, Livesundersink said: Title says it all, tell me what's the worst theory you've come across thus far in ASOIAF. Well, for one, I despise the misuse of the word "theory". The word you want is "hypothesis". To the point, my least favorite hypotheses are the "ships". I despise ships. I'll take a 2000 word crackpot about Hodor and Catlyn's lovechild over a 2000 word essay about shipping any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, acwill07 said: 2. The theory that Jon and Arya end up romantically involved. There is zero evidence to back this up. I personally blame the dude who wrote Arya will be more forgiving ... until she realizes, with terror, that she has fallen in love with Jon, who is not only her half-brother but a man of the Night's Watch, sworn to celibacy. Their passion will continue to torment Jon and Arya throughout the trilogy, until the secret of Jon's true parentage is finally revealed in the last book. for this one. Nice fanfiction, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygett Lannister Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Jon is legitimate son of R+L and heir to Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygett Lannister Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 22 hours ago, Blackwater Revenant said: That the poison was in the pie, and Tyrion was the target. 21 hours ago, SecretWeapon said: any of the ones where Rhaella and Aerys aren't Daenerys parents. oh and the "the poison was in the pie to kill Tyrion" theory It is not bad theory since Purple wedding is the worst written plot in entire series, but yes poison was in wine and target Joffrey, which is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 That the 3 page outline is George's "original" plan for the series. More like plan 14Z, with most of it rushed to fill in the blanks for a publisher proposal... Has no relevancy to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Syrio is alive. Destroys the romance of his character and bravery of his end. And somebody has to die, for God's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Revenant Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kienn said: That the 3 page outline is George's "original" plan for the series. More like plan 14Z, with most of it rushed to fill in the blanks for a publisher proposal... Has no relevancy to anything. Agreed, it drives me batty when others attempt to use this outline as if it's canon, in order to support their either wise unsupported theory hypothesis. The George has stated that he was "just making shit up" in order to appease the publishers, and sell his story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, Castellan said: Syrio is alive. Destroys the romance of his character and bravery of his end. And somebody has to die, for God's sake. You mean, with Syrio alive, the body count of the series would drop to zero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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