Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, Curled Finger said: No way Stannis wins. He's got too few supporters. The North will only support Robb. The Vale would remain neutral, supporting no one. Dorne wouldn't support any of these candidates. That leaves the Iron Islands, The Reach, Stormlands, Crownlands, Riverlands and Westerlands. I guarantee the Iron Islands won't back anyone but Balon (nor will Balon throw in with any of these candidates) and the Riverlands will go with whomever has the best chance of winning. That leaves Renly's Stormlands and Reach against Joffrey's Crownlands and Westerlands. At that point I have to go with Renly due to populace and military strength exclusively. Actually Robb and Balon don't have desire to rule Seven Kingdoms but they may want independence referendum which should be handled after "electing the king". Doran Martell didn't participate in War of Five Kings because Dorne didn't have capable military power. It doesn't mean that Dornish people are passive. Dornish people are nationalistic and they would probably choose someone who will do something about Elia'a murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygett Lannister Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Renly would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Revenant Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 So who would make up the electorate in this scenario? Must you be a noble or a land owner to be eligible to vote? Do the peasants or women have a vote? How about if you don't own land, but are in service as a soldier, or belong to an order such as the Faith or the Citadel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygett Lannister Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Blackwater Revenant said: So who would make up the electorate in this scenario? Must you be a noble or a land owner to be eligible to vote? Do the peasants or women have a vote? How about if you don't own land, but are in service as a soldier, or belong to an order such as the Faith or the Citadel? Nobles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Revenant Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tygett Lannister said: Nobles. So essentially, the election results would mirror the support that each candidate received as the story has already been told. Basically, who would be King if a great council was called, instead of war breaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curled Finger Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 29 minutes ago, RedGrace that was promised said: Actually Robb and Balon don't have desire to rule Seven Kingdoms but they may want independence referendum which should be handled after "electing the king". Doran Martell didn't participate in War of Five Kings because Dorne didn't have capable military power. It doesn't mean that Dornish people are passive. Dornish people are nationalistic and they would probably choose someone who will do something about Elia'a murder. I beg to differ, but allow me to qualify my argument. Military strength had to be demonstrated at least in the beginning of this war. Maybe just the initial strikes. At that point the North has already stubbornly proclaimed Robb king over Joffrey, Stannis and Renly specifically. Balon has already seen his avenue of entrance into the North with Robb calling the banners and moving south. The Iron Born only back down from self rule and conquest after they are beaten. Stannis is adamantly convinced that he is the rightful heir to the throne and that's before he is convinced he is Azor Ahai. Even though a vote might fly with some of the regions, those controlled by these contenders will not. We suspect Dorne has an army 50,000 strong. Doran has been sitting things out because he knows he's got a marriage alliance with the Targs. He knows that there are 2 Targs he can marry his oldest children to. He does this in hopes of Dorne controlling the Iron Throne in the next generation. It has nothing to do with revenge or Elia. That's Oberyn's motivation, not Doran's. I agree that 50,000 is not enough to go up against the Lannisters or Tyrells, but there is also no reason for Doran to support any of these contenders in a vote. He's playing the long game of thrones here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell's son Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 6 hours ago, RedGrace that was promised said: Results of election Stannis supported by Robb (North+Vale+Riverrun+Dorne+partially Crownlands) - 51% Renly (Stormlands+Reach) - 25% Joffrey supported by Balon (Westerlands+partially Crownlands+Iron Islands) - 24% Dou you agree? you are dead wrong. It would be Hot pie. AA reborn, the true kingslayer and true heir to the iron throne of westeros. It is known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, Dorian Martell's son said: you are dead wrong. It would be Hot pie. AA reborn, the true kingslayer and true heir to the iron throne of westeros. It is known Three-Figner Hobb also had chance to become LC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elder brother jonothor dar Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Dorian Martell's son said: you are dead wrong. It would be Hot pie. AA reborn, the true kingslayer and true heir to the iron throne of westeros. It is known Don't you mean Frey would promise to vote for Robb, but switch to Lannisters, Stannis would kill his brother but loose more than half the vote to the Lannisters, Joff would be elected King and Tommen vice King with the Tyrell girl the first lady... so the story could continue as written??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elder brother jonothor dar Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 8 hours ago, RedGrace that was promised said: Results of election Stannis supported by Robb (North+Vale+Riverrun+Dorne+partially Crownlands) - 51% Renly (Stormlands+Reach) - 25% Joffrey supported by Balon (Westerlands+partially Crownlands+Iron Islands) - 24% Dou you agree? Stannis? Stannis would come last in every vote, Robb backs Stannis simply because he is the next in line to the throne. Nobody would choose Stannis in a free vote. Given free will Robb would have been smart to side with Renly, he dismissed it simply on principal, ironically Stannis dismissed an alliance with the North on principle too. Do you see Stannis campaigning? How will he win votes? Or does everyone just vote for him because he's Stannis? Renly wins easily Joff and Lannister gold 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Mac Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 8 hours ago, RedGrace that was promised said: Results of election Stannis supported by Robb (North+Vale+Riverrun+Dorne+partially Crownlands) - 51% Renly (Stormlands+Reach) - 25% Joffrey supported by Balon (Westerlands+partially Crownlands+Iron Islands) - 24% Dou you agree? How is it an election if realms are voting as one? The Riverlands was not in favor of Stannis when they were deciding on a king to support and there is no indication that he is popular in the North or Vale. It is an interesting debate but that is an odd example to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crona Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I would think Renly would win, but can you imagine Joffrey, Stannis, and Renly openly debating with each other to an audience? I would love to read/see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Ravens Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Whichever candidate has the most money. Really wealthy people can just buy elections, even if they have no experience or qualifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Renly: Vote for me and I will promise that I will not harm any pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell's son Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, elder brother jonothor dar said: Don't you mean Frey would promise to vote for Robb, but switch to Lannisters, Stannis would kill his brother but loose more than half the vote to the Lannisters, Joff would be elected King and Tommen vice King with the Tyrell girl the first lady... so the story could continue as written??? No, something as absurd as an election between kings in clash is akin to say, inquiring how ned and his companions would react if at the TOJ, instead of finding the KG, they encountered grey aliens who probed them and took them to saturn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yucef Menaerys Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Renly would win, he was very charismatic and people were naturally inclined to him. On the other hand I see no way in hell Stannis would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphis Baratheon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 With the backing he already has all Renly would need is the support of the Vale. The Vale would vote for Renly if he promised to make Strong Robin his Master of Laws and build him a moon door atop the Red Keep. Break the King's peace? You fly! Crime in King's Landing would be at an all time low. Busty noble women in the Red Keep will awake with wet and yellow bed sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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