Mexal Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 24 minutes ago, Triskele said: Rumors swirling now that Mueller will be done before Christmas. These Republicans will obviously let it happen. If he doesn’t have any other charges, so be it but he still has two cases to take to trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 This is an interesting thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Mexal said: If he doesn’t have any other charges, so be it but he still has two cases to take to trial. He doesn't mean "done" as in finished with the investigation, the rumor is that Trump is firing him on the 22nd. He is supposedly making an announcement that day, and congress will have already left for the holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Morpheus said: He doesn't mean "done" as in finished with the investigation, the rumor is that Trump is firing him on the 22nd. He is supposedly making an announcement that day, and congress will have already left for the holidays. Well I looked at the link Zorral posted. If it does happen, at least there is a rally already planned not 18 miles from where I'm at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 So what is Corker angling for? When he says he's retiring, he's not actually retiring is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, Dr. Pepper said: So what is Corker angling for? When he says he's retiring, he's not actually retiring is he? Mexal and I both posted the same tweet which goes to this article. Basicly, a new change in the tax law could benefit him tremendously. Quote Republican congressional leaders and real estate moguls could be personally enriched by a real-estate-related provision GOP lawmakers slipped into the final tax bill released Friday evening, according to experts interviewed by International Business Times. The legislative language was not part of previous versions of the bill and was added despite ongoing conflict-of-interest questions about the intertwining real estate interests and governmental responsibilities of President Donald Trump — the bill’s chief proponent. ~~~snip~~~ Sen. Bob Corker, who was considered a potential “no” vote on the bill, abruptly switched his position upon the release of the final legislation. Federal records reviewed by IBT show that Corker has millions of dollars of ownership stakes in real-estate related LLCs that could also benefit. http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/donald-trump-gop-leaders-could-be-enriched-last-minute-tax-break-inserted-final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nasty LongRider said: Mexal and I both posted the same tweet which goes to this article. Basicly, a new change in the tax law could benefit him tremendously. http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/donald-trump-gop-leaders-could-be-enriched-last-minute-tax-break-inserted-final But is it just that? I was wondering if he's just giving up one job in hopes of taking on another and he needed to make trades with people to get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dr. Pepper said: But is it just that? I was wondering if he's just giving up one job in hopes of taking on another and he needed to make trades with people to get that. Who knows, perhaps his donors will have a cushy lobbying job for him as a reward for getting them the tax breaks they so *richly* (hack!) deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Trump Plans to Help More Republicans Lose in 2018 http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/trump-plans-to-help-more-republicans-lose-in-2018.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, Martell Spy said: Trump Plans to Help More Republicans Lose in 2018 http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/trump-plans-to-help-more-republicans-lose-in-2018.html Well I suppose that eventually, one of the candidates he rallies for will win an election. He then can claim all the glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnot OG Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 https://www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/search/?from=@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The latest attempt to discredit Mueller is a claim by Trump lawyers that the special counsel illegally obtained a large number of transition emails. This thread is good explanation of why the claim is garbage. https://mobile.twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/942168454647484417 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Mexal said: If he doesn’t have any other charges, so be it but he still has two cases to take to trial. How much has this investigation cost so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 10 hours ago, Martell Spy said: Trump Plans to Help More Republicans Lose in 2018 http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/trump-plans-to-help-more-republicans-lose-in-2018.html If Trumps tax plan ends up working out and the stock market and the economy keeps on going the way it's going . It's possible that the Republican might end up retaining control of both the House and the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin of Ice Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Quote How much has this investigation cost so far? A fraction of the extra cost of protecting the Trump family and on the golf courses, or the costs of investigating the Clintons, not to mention the Republican give aways to the rich and corporations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denstorebog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, GAROVORKIN said: If Trumps tax plan ends up working out and the stock market and the economy keeps on going the way it's going . It's possible that the Republican might end up retaining control of both the House and the Senate. Trump's and the GOP's popularity has been remarkably untethered to the economy so far, which is, on paper, pretty strong. The chance that the tax reform is going to be so awesome for so many families that they rejoin the proud GOP familiy of enthusiastic voters is ... pretty slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 52 minutes ago, Paladin of Ice said: A fraction of the extra cost of protecting the Trump family and on the golf courses, or the costs of investigating the Clintons, not to mention the Republican give aways to the rich and corporations... Millions and millions less than all spent on Hilary Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, GAROVORKIN said: How much has this investigation cost so far? This article makes clear that based on cost, time spent, indictments, and pleas/convictions, the investigation thus far has been both incredibly efficient and productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 About those emails, this article discusses why it may have been legal for Mueller to request them and the GSO to hand them over. The GSO not mentioning that to Trump et al., is a nice touch. Quote Jeffrey Cramer, a longtime former federal prosecutor who specialized in white collar cases, echoed that point. "This is not a problem," he said, referring to the way Mueller's team got a hold of the emails. "The server owner, in this case GSA, properly has the emails and can turn them over if there was a subpoena or court order," in the same way that internet providers and banks can provide emails and records about clients to law enforcement. More than that, Cramer added, the special counsel's team may not even have needed a subpoena to obtain the emails. An administrative request — a legally authorized and judicially enforceable demand for records issued by a government authority — may have sufficed, he said. The transition team lawyer's letter to Congress appeared to confirm that Mueller's office obtained the emails via an administrative request. "Specifically, on August 23, 2017, the FBI sent a letter (i.e., not a subpoena) to career GSA staff requesting copies of the emails, laptops, cell phones, and other materials associated with nine [transition team] members responsible for national security and policy matters," the letter said. In response to Langhofer's claim that some of the emails could be "susceptible to privilege claims," Georgetown University national security law professor Phillip Carter tweeted that there was no "legal privilege" that applied in this case. "Just putting a 'privilege' legend on something, or asserting the privilege in a letter after the fact, doesn’t make it so." http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-has-obtained-tens-of-thousands-of-trump-transition-team-emails-2017-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Trump's lawyers know the emails were legally obtained, the complaint is pure optics, they are gathering a bullshit list of grievances including those texts to discredit Mueller and potentially to try and give Trump cover if he does fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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