Lord Varys Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The whole idea that there was something positive for House Targaryen in Maegor's brutality - like it helping them to survive and win the fight against the Faith or them finally crushing any thought of rebellion in the lords and the peasants - pretty much went away in TSotD. Visenya arranged the Trial of Seven so that Maegor could legitimately win the throne. He did. The Warrior's Sons were conflicted about their next move and they could have used this to drive a wedge between them and the High Septon. Instead Maegor awoke from his coma and simply burned the Sept of Remembrance and all the men inside without warning. There was nothing positive or productive about that. In addition, the man himself became the greatest enemy of House Targaryen, killing two of his nephews, one the rightful heir to the throne. While Maegor had no heir of his own body he could - from a dynastic viewpoint - not really afford to kill Aenys' sons. If he had killed Jaehaerys, too, House Targaryen and everything Aegon and Visenya had tried to build would have been lost. There is pretty much nothing positive about this man. Even his reasons for warring with the Faith were nonsensical. House Targaryen had heirs in Aenys and Aenys' children. It would have been great if Maegor and Ceryse had had children, too. But this wasn't necessary. Maegor could have become a great asset to his family had gotten over his infertility issue and helped his royal brother deal with the backlash when King Aenys married Aegon to Rhaena (something they had to do because of the whole dragonrider thing). Maegor could have done great things as Aenys' (and later Aegon's) champion, helping them to intimidate and crush their enemies. The Faith needed a stern hand, but Visenya and a Maegor serving Aenys and Aegon could have done that just as well as a mad King Maegor. The way it turned out the man most definitely lived too long. Things would have turned out much better if that horse had kicked him to death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 9:59 PM, Lord Varys said: The whole idea that there was something positive for House Targaryen in Maegor's brutality - like it helping them to survive and win the fight against the Faith or them finally crushing any thought of rebellion in the lords and the peasants - pretty much went away in TSotD. Visenya arranged the Trial of Seven so that Maegor could legitimately win the throne. He did. The Warrior's Sons were conflicted about their next move and they could have used this to drive a wedge between them and the High Septon. Instead Maegor awoke from his coma and simply burned the Sept of Remembrance and all the men inside without warning. There was nothing positive or productive about that. In addition, the man himself became the greatest enemy of House Targaryen, killing two of his nephews, one the rightful heir to the throne. While Maegor had no heir of his own body he could - from a dynastic viewpoint - not really afford to kill Aenys' sons. If he had killed Jaehaerys, too, House Targaryen and everything Aegon and Visenya had tried to build would have been lost. There is pretty much nothing positive about this man. Even his reasons for warring with the Faith were nonsensical. House Targaryen had heirs in Aenys and Aenys' children. It would have been great if Maegor and Ceryse had had children, too. But this wasn't necessary. Maegor could have become a great asset to his family had gotten over his infertility issue and helped his royal brother deal with the backlash when King Aenys married Aegon to Rhaena (something they had to do because of the whole dragonrider thing). Maegor could have done great things as Aenys' (and later Aegon's) champion, helping them to intimidate and crush their enemies. The Faith needed a stern hand, but Visenya and a Maegor serving Aenys and Aegon could have done that just as well as a mad King Maegor. The way it turned out the man most definitely lived too long. Things would have turned out much better if that horse had kicked him to death... Without Maegor, Aenys likely would have given Blackfyre to Aegon, and with no Maegor to mount Balerion, and before Aenys dies to leave Quicksilver riderless, Aegon likely would have mounted Balerion. Then with the Conqueror's sword, dragon and name, maybe even his crown, Aegon would be sending the statement that he is his grandfather come again. He would have been better at winning allies than his uncle given his lack of brutality, and he was charismatic enough to get a force of 30,000 men to take up arms against Maegor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Man Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 2:27 AM, UFT said: who do you like more? I admire Visenya for how she handled the faith. Her nephew was a wimpy, indecisive little shit who was too incompetent to rule a contentious kingdom. Beat the snot out of the faith and when they're finally ready to give in, then you can show a little mercy but not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 7:27 AM, UFT said: who do you like more? Rhaenys was probably the nicer of the two, but Visenya was more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darion Storm Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Visenya in wartime. Rhaenys in peacetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCat Rivers Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Rhaenys has a big failure and no great accomplishment of her own. Visenya on the other hand was a very remarkable, even if not exactly likeable, individual. She was IMO the most competent of the three, far better than Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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