Why we Dance to Rhaenyra and Daemon Stark (updated)

[Vaedys Targaryen]

42 minutes ago, AlaskanSandman said:

Yea look that up, that would be Jaehaery the first then doing the fighting

 

And im sure Gael could have managed something.

Further, are you forgetting that Gael was 66 when died? I doubt she was pregnant when she died lmao but ok im lying. 

You're getting a little bit ahead of yourself; we don't really know when Gael was truly born. We have to remember that Jaehaerys and Alysanne had 13 children together, of which Gael was the youngest. The wiki states Gael to be born somewhere in or between 62AC and 83AC and you're assuming it was in 62AC.

Alysanne was born in 36AC and married Jaehaerys in 50AC, when she was roughly 14 years old and began having children from then on. One can assume that the royal couple waited to have children until later, as people in the ASoIaF world know that a young girl getting pregnant when she's too young can kill her. Couple that with that a pregnancy lasts for around nine months and that Alysanne must've had time to rest before getting pregnant again, which allows there to be plenty of space for all 13 children to be of different ages and Gael to be somewhere in her late teens to early twenties at the time of her death.

And where are you getting Gael being 66 from? Even the approx. time frame of the date of her birth we're given still doesn't get her anywhere near 66 years old.

[The Wondering Wolf]

1 hour ago, AlaskanSandman said:

Further, are you forgetting that Gael was 66 when died?

She was not.

[AlaskanSandman]

On 1/12/2018 at 6:17 AM, Vaedys Targaryen said:

You're getting a little bit ahead of yourself; we don't really know when Gael was truly born. We have to remember that Jaehaerys and Alysanne had 13 children together, of which Gael was the youngest. The wiki states Gael to be born somewhere in or between 62AC and 83AC and you're assuming it was in 62AC.

Alysanne was born in 36AC and married Jaehaerys in 50AC, when she was roughly 14 years old and began having children from then on. One can assume that the royal couple waited to have children until later, as people in the ASoIaF world know that a young girl getting pregnant when she's too young can kill her. Couple that with that a pregnancy lasts for around nine months and that Alysanne must've had time to rest before getting pregnant again, which allows there to be plenty of space for all 13 children to be of different ages and Gael to be somewhere in her late teens to early twenties at the time of her death.

And where are you getting Gael being 66 from? Even the approx. time frame of the date of her birth we're given still doesn't get her anywhere near 66 years old.

 

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Gael Targaryen

Birth

Gael was the thirteenth child of Jaehaerys and Alysanne.^[45] It is known that Gael lived until adulthood, ^[46] which is 16 in Westeros. As Gael is stated to have died in 99 AC,^[46] this means that Gael was at least 16 years old in 99 AC, placing her birth no later than 83 AC.

As Gael was the thirteenth child, she could have been born in the thirteenth year of the marriage of Alysanne and Jaehaerys the earliest, which would be 62 AC

 

.•             Gael the Winter Child- 13th child of Jaehaerys and Alysanne supposedly. Born in 62/83-99AC and drowned in 99Ac at age 16 or 37. Left with child after visited by traveling Singer/ Bard.

 

Sorry, up late staring at this crap for too long hahah start jumbling up stuff trying to keep track of it all. 

And no Jaehaerys and her wouldn't wait to have kids, they need to secure the throne. But there is more to the picture and i need to explain it all better so people can decide.

[AlaskanSandman]

On 1/12/2018 at 6:31 AM, The Wondering Wolf said:

She was not.

Yea i erred, i apologies, i was up late staring at this stuff wayyyy to long lol 

[BRANDON GREYSTARK]

Gael Targaryen was the child of Bael the bard and the prettiest flower blooming at Winterfell , Alysanne  Targaryen .

[AlaskanSandman]

On 1/14/2018 at 8:37 PM, BRANDON GREYSTARK said:

Gael Targaryen was the child of Bael the bard and the prettiest flower blooming at Winterfell , Alysanne  Targaryen .

The Name is what really makes me wanna say Bael. Gael. So close.

And thank you!! Its nice to find people who agree with the general idea that Alysanne had a bastard child at Queens Crown  

Gael also happens to be Alysanne's 13th child which plays into all the other 13 clues we should watch out for. Most notably the Stark connection through the Night's King, Jon dying on Jons 13th pov ch of ADWD, Bran meeting Bloodraven on the 13th chapter of ADWD, Bran telling of the Night's King being the 13th L.c. who ruled for 13 years and loved a woman with pale skin, before passing through the Blackgate and the wall to go meet Bloodraven who was L.C. for 13 years and loved a woman with pale white skin, and 13 Targaryen generations of kings have passed since Aegon I to when Bran is meeting Bloodraven. 

Plus there is the 13 unions of Garth the Green, 13 Farwyn Islands in the Iron Islands, and such. Which all connect in other ways too that im thinking about writing up in a new thread with these new theories included. The Iron Island connection is interesting as it plays into House Hoare and their power plays over the Iron Islands, the North, River Lands, and the Reach. As in my theory the Grey King- Salt king tried to rival his father by going to war with his co-ruling brother Durran the Rock King. Thus activating the curse placed on Garth. Explaining why the Grey King turned grey all over through out his 1007 year reign. Durran being attacked on his wedding night and facing 7 storms or attacks. Durran living for 1000. 

Ygg, and Garth are bloodthirsty gods who demand blood sacrifice and feed on human flesh.

The Black Gate is the only weirwood that can actually talk. Is Garth second life in there? Was he always a tree? The grey king slew ygg and created a dragon (boat?) and magic fire (which he lit his hall with).

So the Iron born interest in the Reach, River Lands and the North is understandable as the lands of the fore father. 

The Grey King is from Garth family in the east who is warring with his family in the west, Durran. 
Its also mentioned that there are lineal claims in the Reach and Westerlands tied to the founding of Valyria. 

One side of the family seemed to stay and form the Maesters and the Wall to maintain something. While the other side went East (Back east?) till the destruction of Valyria. This destruction though, coming only after Valyria had returned to Westeros 200 years prior. Brought on by (Imo) Hard home becoming a city north of the wall. Something forbidden by the pact and the wall put up which divides the 9 kingdoms of old into only 8 that can be ruled at once any more. Stopping the curse from activating again, but not ending the ones already turned. 

The Doom of Valyria didn't stop Valyria though, and 300 years ago, Aegon I invaded Westeros and attempted to unite all of it as the High King. Most distressing. And they had dragons to do it, that is..

Untill House Stark took over House Targaryen and ended the Dragons through Rhaenyra and Daemon Targaryen. 

Untill the Dayne Heiress was born. To forge Light Bringer and bind the dragons to her blood through blood magic. The Dayne Heiress born in a Tower of Joy just as Gael was born in the Queen's Crown Tower. Though to Eddard and his broken promise, it was only a Tower of Sorrow. Jon is not Eddard's Bastard. Its the other lone wolf doomed to die alone howling forever in the darkness if the cold touches her.