Dr. Pepper Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Triskele said: Serious question: for those that are fans of Chelsea Manning is it coming more from a place of "fuck the US gov't" or more of a place like "trans is OK / LGBT solidarity?" I'm not sure I'd call myself a fan, but I've certainly always supported her and casually follow some of her activism. I have no idea why the fuck she's doing this and it irritates me more every time I see another headline about it. She certainly believes the government to be wrong in a lot of way and a failure at protecting the rights of others. I don't know why she thinks she has the experience necessary to be a senator (not that she'd even win, but still). Maybe in the end it's only about promoting a more leftist agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I do find myself wondering if between them, Trump and Conservatives don't manage to get formal, wide ranging sanctions imposed against the US. Similar note: I have been running across stories naming the Trump Tower in Panama a veritable den of corrupt dealings. So...should things deteriorate further, to the point where the local law seizes the property, what is Trumps reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, ThinkerX said: I do find myself wondering if between them, Trump and Conservatives don't manage to get formal, wide ranging sanctions imposed against the US. Extremely unlikely. Sanctions require the sanctioning party to be at least of comparable economic magnitude to the sanctioned one and typically the entity imposing sanctions is much bigger or it would be doing more harm to itself than to the entity it sanctions. The elites of the world don't like Trump, but the US is still a juggernaut and their dislike is not sufficient reason to hurt their own economies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, ThinkerX said: I do find myself wondering if between them, Trump and Conservatives don't manage to get formal, wide ranging sanctions imposed against the US. Similar note: I have been running across stories naming the Trump Tower in Panama a veritable den of corrupt dealings. So...should things deteriorate further, to the point where the local law seizes the property, what is Trumps reaction? Pfft, sanctions? I'm hoping we don't all end up living in a nuclear wasteland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnot OG Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Triskele said: Serious question: for those that are fans of Chelsea Manning is it coming more from a place of "fuck the US gov't" or more of a place like "trans is OK / LGBT solidarity?" Both. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/parenting/wp/2018/01/13/being-a-mother-in-hawaii-during-38-minutes-of-nuclear-threat-terror/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Altherion said: Extremely unlikely. Sanctions require the sanctioning party to be at least of comparable economic magnitude to the sanctioned one and typically the entity imposing sanctions is much bigger or it would be doing more harm to itself than to the entity it sanctions. The elites of the world don't like Trump, but the US is still a juggernaut and their dislike is not sufficient reason to hurt their own economies. The EU's economy is comparable to that of the US. And if the leaders of Africa decide to start nationalizing corporate holdings enmass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I'm from Maryland. Manning isn't going to get with a light year of a Senate seat. I'm not sure what the point of this stunt is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 When your libertarian overlords are being naughty, naughty. We had here in the US, the Treasury departments one page “analysis” and now we have: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/01/world-bank-gamed-data-to-make-chiles-socialist-party-look-bad/ Quote Paul Romer, the chief economist of the World Bank, told the Wall Street Journalyesterday that the bank’s “Doing Business” rankings had been systematically gamed over the past few years to change Chile’s ranking: Quote Over time, World Bank staff put a heavy thumb on the scales of its report by repeatedly changing the methodology that was used to calculate the country rankings, Mr. Romer said. The focus of the World Bank’s corrections will be changes that had the effect of sharply penalizing the ranking of Chile….Chile’s overall ranking has fluctuated between 25th and 57th since 2006. During that period, the presidency of Chile has alternated between Ms. Bachelet, of Chile’s socialist party, and Sebastián Piñera, a conservative. Under Ms. Bachelet, Chile’s ranking consistently deteriorated, while it consistently climbed under Mr. Piñera. At the risk of sounding uncivil, crass, unpolished, and unrefined, I just have to say, this sounds like a bunch of horseshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 And this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 23 hours ago, Nasty LongRider said: LOL. That's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Inigima said: I'm from Maryland. Manning isn't going to get with a light year of a Senate seat. I'm not sure what the point of this stunt is. Such a contest wil probably sell newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 16 hours ago, OldGimletEye said: Yep. Democrats should drop him like third period french. On a number of policy matters Dimon has simply been wrong, whether we're talking about his crying about equity capital requirements for banks or his debt chicken littleing back in 2012 or so and his opinions on monetary policy. His nonsense would fit right in the Republican Party. ETA: It's probably very "uncivil" for me to say this, but Dimon can go piss up a rope. "Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans ." Will Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 23 hours ago, GAROVORKIN said: "Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans ." Will Rogers Well there is some truth to that. But, if there is something that I think most Democrats could agree on, it's; Jamie Dimon should go piss up a rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, OldGimletEye said: Well there is some truth to that. But, if there is something that I think most Democrats could agree on, it's; Jamie Dimon should go piss up a rope. He seems to have a bit of popularity deficit with a alot of Democrats Will Rodger was a very shrewd and perceptive man on a number of topics. He died in 1935 but, some of his observations still seem to hold true today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Cotton and Perdue changing their stories a day after saying they cant recall really is something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Mexal said: Cotton and Perdue changing their stories a day after saying they cant recall really is something. So how many news cycles have been generated this week alone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Trump administration official does the full on Sgt. Schultz. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/14/16890490/kirstjen-nielsen-shithole Quote Another Trump official has come down with “shithole”-related amnesia. And a Republican senator who previously suffered from it has now recovered — and says that the president never said it. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen told Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace that she does not recall President Donald Trump’s reported description of Haiti, El Salvador and nations in Africa as “shithole countries” in a meeting at the Oval Office on Wednesday. The Washington Post initially reported the remarks, and NBC News confirmed the account. Somebody needs to very uncivilly call bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 There isn’t a single Republican with a shred of credibility. They are all liars, they are all complicit, they are a white supremacist party run by a wannabe dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Morpheus said: There isn’t a single Republican with a shred of credibility. They are all liars, they are all complicit, they are a white supremacist party run by a wannabe dictator. All of the above and treasonous, traiterous, spineless, bootlicking, shitbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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