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Ser Scot A Ellison

Police violence... when will people see that better training and tactics are essential

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1 hour ago, WinterFox said:

And occupying armies often (not always) care about optics and keeping people docile. 

Even the Werhmact actually waited for people to fuck up in Belgium before killing them in 1914

They did.  The entire idea that police lives are more valuable than everyone elses that their real purpose is to protect themselves from everyone else and that any actions they take are justified is the poison that is turning them into a group that we simply cannot trust.

That is why American police tactics and training must change.  That they need to remember they exist to serve us, all of us.

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Part of it is also just the fucked up American Fear mentality.  We are so fucking scared of all these fucking super predator bogeymen that we have no problem locking everyone up and giving the police carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they want. Kill whoever you want, bro, we got yer back has to change.  It's all tied up in racism and classism.  Fear of POC and poor people and fear of drug addicts.  So instead lock them all up and if you have to shoot them. 

All the American exceptionalism is fucking gross when you look at our criminal justice system.  Based on that we are the least free country in the world.  Stop trying to shoot the imaginary monster under the bed.

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19 hours ago, WinterFox said:

And occupying armies often (not always) care about optics and keeping people docile. 

Even the Werhmact actually waited for people to fuck up in Belgium before killing them in 1914

[Pedant] That wouldn't be the Wehrmacht, the Wehrmach was the name of the combined german armed forces of 1935-45. The successor to the Wiemar-era Reichswehr.

 

The army in WWI would be simple be the Imperial german army (Deutsches Heer) though that technically only includes the army and (nascent) air-force.

And even that is a bit of a kludge, since the Imperial Army was really several different organizations (eg. Bavaria and Saxony technically still had their own armies)[/Pedant]

 

 

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11 hours ago, ants said:

Pretty scary. 

Not even surprising.  I do not feel at all guilty about never extending the benefit of doubt to a cop.  In the US, the police have created and fostered a narrative where they are at war with the people they serve and they have repeatedly demonstrated that they will go to any extralegal lengths to protect their own and operate with impunity.  We need independent commissions to replace their Internal Affairs, and like with so many fucked up American institutions, we need to do away with the idea that any organization is capable of self-policing in a constructive way.  

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