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Did anyone else catch the first episode of Here and Now on HBO? I hadn't planned on watching it but figured why not. It has a few interesting ideas but highly doubt I'll stick with it.

This show kinda reminds me of The Newsroom(I only got a few episodes in), where it takes itself way too seriously and just comes off as pretentious and annoying instead of witty. One scene in particular was cringy as hell and I almost turned it off there: 

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The scene in the restaurant where the adopted brother and sister are joking with each other, and the coke dealer model dude looks on reacting to how outrageous and just incorrigible these two are!! Yeesh.

I'll see how the 2nd episode goes. Also, Rita Sue from Carnivàle made a brief appearance so that was cool.

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Watched the first ep of Troy on the BBC. I am not sure how I feel about it really. I'm very familiar with the mythology but I'm still like WHAT EVEN IS THIS THO? I especially don't feel that fussed about Helen and Paris. I guess they are trying to do something new, something beyond instant starstruck love at first sight. Actually, now that I come to think about it I'm not that sold on judgement of Paris either. Bit of a budget version. Felt a bit...lightweight. 

I'm staying with it though.

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1 hour ago, Ramsay B. said:

Did anyone else catch the first episode of Here and Now on HBO? I hadn't planned on watching it but figured why not. It has a few interesting ideas but highly doubt I'll stick with it.

This show kinda reminds me of The Newsroom(I only got a few episodes in), where it takes itself way too seriously and just comes off as pretentious and annoying instead of witty. One scene in particular was cringy as hell and I almost turned it off there: 

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The scene in the restaurant where the adopted brother and sister are joking with each other, and the coke dealer model dude looks on reacting to how outrageous and just incorrigible these two are!! Yeesh.

I'll see how the 2nd episode goes. Also, Rita Sue from Carnivàle made a brief appearance so that was cool.

I did finally catch the first episode.  Full disclosure:  the fact that it showed a lot of shots of my native Portland is going to make me more inclined to stick with it and hope it's good.  

One thing that a lot of the negative reviews seemed to harp on was how it was indeed about this uber-progressive PacNW family with adopted kids from several backgrounds.  At least in one ep the show at least seemed to be quite self-aware on this point which makes me wonder why it's such an issue; maybe others cringed at the scene you reference.

At any rate, I am intrigued enough to continue to give it a chance but also had a feeling while watching the pilot that it wasn't likely to have too broad of an appeal.  

There was one thing I loved:

 

In Robbins speech where he says "We lost, folks,"

 

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34 minutes ago, Triskele said:

One thing that a lot of the negative reviews seemed to harp on was how it was indeed about this uber-progressive PacNW family with adopted kids from several backgrounds.  At least in one ep the show at least seemed to be quite self-aware on this point which makes me wonder why it's such an issue; maybe others cringed at the scene you reference.

Yeah, the banter just seemed so unnatural and forced in that scene... but harping on the fact that the family has adopted kids from different backgrounds is just silliness.

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I liked the speech too, and Robbins did do a good job at conveying the hopelessness he(and many of us)is feeling right now. I also liked the supernatural elements(maybe?) thing. That can be interesting if they do it right. 

It was just one episode so I'll keep watching either way.

 

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I saw The Shape of Water, which I thought was very good. Out of Gullermo Del Toro's films that I've seen I'd say it was closest to Pan's Labyrinth, although that has more comedy in it, it does have a few very funny moments in it. Sally Hawkins is great in the lead role, she does a great job of building a character without speaking. I think Michael Shannon may be getting a bit typecast, but he does make a perfect villain.

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Watched Erased on Netflix. Ugh, don't bother. I had a little time to kill and it looked decent, it's from 2012. Ex CIA agent in Europe, daughter just came to live with him, he works for a large conglomerate now...and cue the action.

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The problem is they never tell you why he left his family, unless it was just because he was CIA or he cheated with coworker. They never tell you why he can't return to the US. They never say why his daughter is suddenly shipped to him. The fact that he was CIA for 12 years and didn't realize that a shipping conglomurate would have no reason to have a small group of people doing nothing but finding ways to defeat security locks??!?!?!?!?! And after a coworker finds that the patents for the stuff they are defeating doesn't belong to the company he works for....and he shows up and entire office area is cleared out and he still doesn't put it together?       Just not a good movie in so many ways.

Best thing I can say about the movie is at least it wasn't two hours long.

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10 hours ago, dog-days said:

Last night I watched the first five minutes of Black Lightning. I got as far as the bit where it's some sort of awards ceremony that looks/feels like a personality cult, and all the kids in the room stand up and shout something in unison. Then I went Aaaaaargh!!!  (but quietly, because I'm visiting family who were asleep upstairs), turned off and sat shuddering for a few seconds. 

Anyone else watched it? Was my initial reaction unfair?

 

Yes, I'm still watching it.  I personally rank it higher than the other DC-CW shows.  I like that it has a gritty realness to it.  Also, I like that it's geared toward a slightly older audience than the other DC-CW shows.  (My 10 y/o daughter and I enjoy watching Supergirl, Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow together.  She's not allowed to watch Black Lightning, maybe in another 3~4 years.)

I can understand that you found that school assembly scene annoying, but please try one entire episode.  I think you will have a more positive opinion of it after that.

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Did some Always Sunny binging today.

This Dennis rant is GOAT:

 

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17 hours ago, Teng Ai Hui said:

 

Yes, I'm still watching it.  I personally rank it higher than the other DC-CW shows.  I like that it has a gritty realness to it.  Also, I like that it's geared toward a slightly older audience than the other DC-CW shows.  (My 10 y/o daughter and I enjoy watching Supergirl, Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow together.  She's not allowed to watch Black Lightning, maybe in another 3~4 years.)

I can understand that you found that school assembly scene annoying, but please try one entire episode.  I think you will have a more positive opinion of it after that.

Thanks, Teng Ai Hui. I'll give it another go - I do want to like it, though many more similar scenes would make that impossible. 

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Finally got round to watching Quarry and loved it - the premise the setting the style and the characters just won me over - finished it in two sittings only to find out after it's been cancelled... so well shit.

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1 hour ago, Talleyrand said:

Finally got round to watching Quarry and loved it - the premise the setting the style and the characters just won me over - finished it in two sittings only to find out after it's been cancelled... so well shit.

Yup, still annoyed about this. Basically from what I read is that Cinemax wanted to go with more action-type shows instead, and they shopped Quarry around to other networks but to no avail.

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On 2/18/2018 at 4:38 PM, Ramsay B. said:

Did anyone else catch the first episode of Here and Now on HBO? I hadn't planned on watching it but figured why not. It has a few interesting ideas but highly doubt I'll stick with it.

I'm with ya here... I'll probably stick with this because I tend to follow through on things I've started... but as even a flaming liberal like me, I find myself rolling my eyes at how many tropes they cramed into these episodes... we are two episodes in and I already know everything about every one of these characters...rather than allow them to develop they keep hitting us over the head with cultural banalities... and i truly can't stand Holly Hunter's character...

Ramon is by far the most likable, best written character... and the best thing this show has going for it.

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