Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Perhaps this belongs in the games section of the forum, but I figured it would get more eyeballs here. Anyways, here is the hypothetical scenario. You are standing in the middle of a giant field and you need to defend yourself. Here are your initial options: 50 Golden Eagles 10 Crocodiles 3 Kodiak Bears 7 Bulls 1 Hunter w/ a Shotgun and Unlimited Ammo 15 Wolves 10,000 Rats 5 Gorillas 4 Lions You get to pick two of the options above to defend yourself. The rest are going to attack you all at once. So the most important question ever asked is simply who are you going with to defend you? Personally I got the Hunter and the Rats. GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Defending you from what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 How is the shotgun loaded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Will the two groups I pick to defend myself try to fight each other or do I have Beastmaster like control over them? Also, I am definitely a Beastmaster and feel like I should get to pick four to defend me instead of just two. Sincerely, The Beastmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Defending you from what? All the options you didn't pick. 8 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: How is the shotgun loaded? Infinite ammo style in some video games. It never needs to be reloaded. Just keep firing away. 2 minutes ago, larrytheimp said: Will the two groups I pick to defend myself try to fight each other or do I have Beastmaster like control over them? Also, I am definitely a Beastmaster and feel like I should get to pick four to defend me instead of just two. Sincerely, The Beastmaster Yes to the first question, hell no to the second statement. That's heresy. Respect the game, Larry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankytoes Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Perhaps this belongs in the games section of the forum, but I figured it would get more eyeballs here. Anyways, here is the hypothetical scenario. You are standing in the middle of a giant field and you need to defend yourself. Here are your initial options: 50 Golden Eagles 10 Crocodiles 3 Kodiak Bears 7 Bulls 1 Hunter w/ a Shotgun and Unlimited Ammo 15 Wolves 10,000 Rats 5 Gorillas 4 Lions You get to pick two of the options above to defend yourself. The rest are going to attack you all at once. So the most important question ever asked is simply who are you going with to defend you? Personally I got the Hunter and the Rats. GO! I think I'd go the same, because I think the hunter would scare a lot of the animals off, blasting away. I'd be most scared of the rats not turning from a shotgun blast, plus I think animals that didn't get turned away by the gun would turn when hundreds/thousands of rats started biting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: All the options you didn't pick. Infinite ammo style in some video games. It never needs to be reloaded. Just keep firing away. Yes to the first question, hell no to the second statement. That's heresy. Respect the game, Larry! The first question wasn't 'yes' or 'no' so I still don't understand. I'll pick the 20 chimpanzees with a side of 25 wolverines option, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 10,000 rats, and I guess the 50 golden eagles on the basis that they're the only one of the other options that have any hope of on getting immediately swamped by my 10,000 rats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankytoes Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, polishgenius said: 10,000 rats, and I guess the 50 golden eagles on the basis that they're the only one of the other options that have any hope of on getting immediately swamped by my 10,000 rats. It depends how close the hunter is, and how good he is, because otherwise it's an instant killshot, game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, mankytoes said: It depends how close the hunter is, and how good he is, because otherwise it's an instant killshot, game over. I'm banking on any shotgun far enough away to get a shot off before rats go yum-yum being too far away to get a one-shot kill, but I'm prepared to sacrifice some of my eagles as a screen if need be. 50 golden eagles is a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, polishgenius said: 10,000 rats, and I guess the 50 golden eagles on the basis that they're the only one of the other options that have any hope of on getting immediately swamped by my 10,000 rats. This was what I would have picked if Tywin had answered my first question to my satisfaction, but until he does I'm being obstinate and making secret menu selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankytoes Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, polishgenius said: I'm banking on any shotgun far enough away to get a shot off before rats go yum-yum being too far away to get a one-shot kill, but I'm prepared to sacrifice some of my eagles as a screen if need be. 50 golden eagles is a lot. A kodiak bear, even a dead one, would be a good cover. In fact, maybe I'll change my answer to the rats and the bears. I'll hide behind one bear, then underneath its' corpse when it dies (probably when the hunter shoots it) while the rats do their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Also, though, 10,000 rats isn't really a lot. It you line them up in one big block it's only 100 wide and 100 rats deep. I feel like if you had them swarm so they'd be effective, they'd take up so little of the field that you'd be overtaken by the sheer mass of the attacking animals. They could realistically maybe frighten off the bulls or gorillas, but would have zero effect on the crocodiles. If you spread them out they lose the swarm factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mance Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I’d have to go with eagles and rats, or eagles and wolves, as overwhelming distraction is the only winning play here. Though, while 10k rats sounds like a lot, its really only a couple hundred per attacker, and I doubt even all of them together could slow down 7 stampeding bulls. It’d be nice if I could direct my eagles to wrest the hunter’s shotgun away and bring it to me. Also, I bet that 15 or 20 eagles could lift me off the ground. Is the goal to survive, or defeat the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I'm probably going eagles and crocodiles if the hunters gun is loaded with birdshot. The crocodiles will form a circle around me while the eagles split into three groups: The first will be twenty defending me, in a whirlwind they will fly tight flappy screechy circles around me. The second will be a group of fifteen that attack the bulls and bears. The third group of fifteen will attempt to overwhelm the hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 If the rats are fearless they can overrun everything else except the eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay B. Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 hours ago, larrytheimp said: Also, though, 10,000 rats isn't really a lot. It you line them up in one big block it's only 100 wide and 100 rats deep. I feel like if you had them swarm so they'd be effective, they'd take up so little of the field that you'd be overtaken by the sheer mass of the attacking animals. They could realistically maybe frighten off the bulls or gorillas, but would have zero effect on the crocodiles. If you spread them out they lose the swarm factor. A good point. 10K sounds like a lot but we'd probably need at least like 100K to be really effective. So instead of the rats I'm thinking I'd go eagles and wolves. I'd have 2-3 eagles attack every animal and the wolves with cleanup duty on the ground after taking down the prime objective which is the hunter. Hopefully a few of the eagles dive bombing that rat swarm will break it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 That is enough rats to cover a circle with a diameter of 8 meters (if my approximations hold up). I'd need them on my side for the singe reason none of the others can stop them quickly enough. Changing the golden eagles for cliff racers would seal the deal. The shotgun won't help against most of the larger animals. Probably the Bulls are the best bet. As meat-shields while the rats do their thing. That leaves the eagles though. Which remain difficult to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 hours ago, larrytheimp said: Also, though, 10,000 rats isn't really a lot. You almost never hear anyone say this, outside of London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Funny, I believe 10,000 rats is a lot. If you put the eagles aside you only have 45 large-ish animals. So each one of these has to deal with over 200 rats. As long as you assume the rats are fearless they can at least neutralize any of the other options. I'm pretty certain 200+ rats can bring down a lion or a wolf at least. Probably the bulls and bears as well. The crocodiles and gorillas are more of a challenge: crocodiles basically have armor, and the gorillas can probably protect themselves rather efficiently thanks to their arms. And yet, conversely it's not certain the crocodiles or the gorillas will easily get rid of their 200+ rats... So I think one simply HAS to take the rats because they would be too dangerous to fight against. The question then becomes: what is the ideal second option? I was originally tempted by the eagles, but on second thought, because the rats can't win on their own I might be tempted by serious hitting power. So either the hunter (very tempting) or the gorillas I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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