James Arryn Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, denstorebog said: Have you tried actually living in one of the well-functioning Scandinavian socialist countries of today, with their unmatched support for health care, education, parental leave, welfare for the general population, clean environment, etc.? And their record-low rates of crime, political corruption and inequality? Oh, and higher quota of millionaires per citizen, in case you were going to resort to some silly argument about socialism quelling the opportunity for businesses and entrepreneurship. Real talk American response; Starting from a random street corner, how many fast food drive-through restaurants are within a 5 minute drive, on average? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Are you allowed to be heavily armed to defend yourself against the countless enemies circling the boundaries of your property, just waiting for you to go into a Socialist safety nap so they can pounce? Yeah, didn’t think so. Good thing you have good medical, your going to...wait, shhh. Heard a noise. I think maybe one of my enemies is coming. Brb. .... Okay, I’m back. Picking up where I left off; How many counties have you forcibly exported your milquetoast culture to? Correct me if i’m wrong, but back when Scandavians were ‘winners’, you were a lot less artsy-fartsy kibbutz and healthcare for all, a lot more violent Vikings/capitalist, right? Yeah, I thought so. How many World Championships in baseball, basketball or real football have Scandanavian teams won? No need to rush the answer, I can wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbigski Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 17 hours ago, DanteGabriel said: Your concern trolling on behalf of the poor Trump family is duly noted. We can always rely on you to defend the relentlessly corrupt against hyperbolic Classical allusions. DG, I get that to some of your posts are probably meant as performance art and not literal policy suggestions. (Also that being a voice of reason in this thread is a Sisyphean task on my part. Mostly I lurk in this thread because it's often fun to watch folks bang their head against reality. Should maybe switch to stamp collecting.) Still, there's a ridiculous Trump story about once a week that so many people run with as gospel. Trump is Nazi. DT Jr is going to get charged with treason. Tillerson is out at State. Trump is mentally incompetent. Putin would prefer Trump instead of someone so implacably hostile to him and incorruptible as HRC... There's such a huge disconnect with reality that some people thought the Gorilla Channel story was plausible for christ's sake. It's like the bigger the lie, the easier the swallow. Fertile ground for the demagogue there. When that's coupled with the sort of rhetoric that got under my skin yesterday, it's a toxic brew. I'm sure James Hodgkinson thought he was righteous: "It's time to destroy Trump and Co." I'd like to see less dehumanizing of Trump and Republicans and less eliminationist rhetoric. It doesn't lead to a good outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 As ever, mcbigski, your dedication to defending the reputation of plutocrats and corrupt hemorrhoids on the ass of democracy is noted. We wouldn't expect anything else of you. This latest performance of yours, arguing against the demonization of a man who has literally built a career demonizing women and minorities gives us a clearer than usual window of your character. Thanks, truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 43 minutes ago, mcbigski said: DG, I get that to some of your posts are probably meant as performance art and not literal policy suggestions. (Also that being a voice of reason in this thread is a Sisyphean task on my part. Mostly I lurk in this thread because it's often fun to watch folks bang their head against reality. Should maybe switch to stamp collecting.) Still, there's a ridiculous Trump story about once a week that so many people run with as gospel. Trump is Nazi. DT Jr is going to get charged with treason. Tillerson is out at State. Trump is mentally incompetent. Putin would prefer Trump instead of someone so implacably hostile to him and incorruptible as HRC... There's such a huge disconnect with reality that some people thought the Gorilla Channel story was plausible for christ's sake. It's like the bigger the lie, the easier the swallow. Fertile ground for the demagogue there. When that's coupled with the sort of rhetoric that got under my skin yesterday, it's a toxic brew. I'm sure James Hodgkinson thought he was righteous: "It's time to destroy Trump and Co." I'd like to see less dehumanizing of Trump and Republicans and less eliminationist rhetoric. It doesn't lead to a good outcome. You could literally only change a few names in this post and it perfectly apply to conservatives during the Obama years. Methinks the conservatives are not so clean of this radical, eliminationist rhetoric that you so dislike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Paul Ryan is bragging about $1.5 trillion worth of debt, a massive decrease in revenue needed for government programs because a woman said she's getting an extra $1.50 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, Mexal said: Paul Ryan is bragging about $1.5 trillion worth of debt, a massive decrease in revenue needed for government programs because a woman said she's getting an extra $1.50 a week. but once she gets that costco membership, she’s golden. buying in bulk is where the real savings come in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 when they say paul ryan is a numbers guy, they mean in the rain man sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Paul Ryan deleted the tweet now as he's getting railed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 11:56 AM, mcbigski said: DG, I get that to some of your posts are probably meant as performance art and not literal policy suggestions. And what’s your policy suggestions? More of the same old, same old, supply side “business friendly growth oriented” policies we’ve known and snickered at for years and don’t work as promised? Gonna tell us how Ronnie did it in 1984? Gonna dust off your copy of “Bullish on Bush”? Advocate we go on the gold standard, perhaps? Tell us maybe inflation is around the corner? Or maybe engage in a little bit of conservative asset mispricing concern trolling? Tell us how TANF and SNAP are bankrupting the country? And on foreign policy it would be would be: Strut around on an aircraft carrier and declare “mission accomplished”? And when Nazis march down the street Republicans do: Well golly it's both sides! Golly gee willikers, see Republicans are very serious about policy and wouldn’t you know engage in a bunch of magical thinking and peddle nutball conspiracy theories. Not the Republican Party! No siree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 23 hours ago, dr. thicc president said: when they say paul ryan is a numbers guy, Well you know, the Republican Party, as we just found out, is all about policy. So you you can bet Paul "Numbers Guy" Ryan's numbers are right on the money. I mean Ryan wouldn't pick Ayn Rand, over hard numbers. Nope, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, Mexal said: Paul Ryan deleted the tweet now as he's getting railed. any wagers on how long this one will last (it’s getting ratio’d to hell even as we speak)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, dr. thicc president said: any wagers on how long this one will last (it’s getting ratio’d to hell even as we speak)? I wonder how much cake my tax cut will buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 19 hours ago, James Arryn said: The more I think about it, if they’d managed to give the impression that they were dying to release it but the Democrats were preventing them through legal technicalities, that would have been their best position. People will assume there’s something Dems are afraid gets out, they’re credited with wanting ‘to trust the people and let them decide’ but ultimately sacrificing political gain for Rule of Law, plus no one ever sees how nothing it all was. That was their sweet spot. Kinda pushes a lot of hyper-conservative paranoiac buttons. Who knows, maybe that was the intention and someone overplayed their hand. I'm not picking on you, I'm just using your post as an example of similar posts. Nunes did not read the underlying material, his assistants did, and wrote the memo. And if you think they did that all by their little lonesome selves, you're in la la land. Nunes is a Trump sycophant of the worst kind. The memo was undoubtedly written with the assistance or guidance of someone in the WH. Not Trump, of course, though he may have had input of a general kind. The memo was written at the direction of the WH and was always meant to be flourished before the public. Any other thought is incredibly naïve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Fragile Bird said: I'm not picking on you, I'm just using your post as an example of similar posts. Nunes did not read the underlying material, his assistants did, and wrote the memo. And if you think they did that all by their little lonesome selves, you're in la la land. Nunes is a Trump sycophant of the worst kind. The memo was undoubtedly written with the assistance or guidance of someone in the WH. Not Trump, of course, though he may have had input of a general kind. The memo was written at the direction of the WH and was always meant to be flourished before the public. Any other thought is incredibly naïve. Yup. This is a repeat of a few months ago when Nunes ran like a little puppy to the White House in the dead of night to pick up some stupid propaganda materials that the White House Counsel didn't want them to circulate. This was how they kicked off the "unmasking" conspiracy theory. Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo wrote up on it a few days ago, after a Democratic Rep on the Intel Committee said he suspected the White House had a direct hand in this latest memo. Quote Back in the first days and weeks of the Trump administration, Mike Flynn tasked his protege and deputy Ezra Cohen-Watnick to do a ‘review’ of intelligence community communications and surveillance. The pretty clear-cut aim of the effort was to help Flynn find out what the investigation of him – Flynn – had come up with. Cohen Watnick was working with a junior lawyer at the White House Counsel’s office on his ‘review’. Now, not long after this, Flynn gets fired. But Cohen-Watnick didn’t stop. Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon were protecting him at this time and interceded with President Trump to block General McMaster from firing him. Eventually, Cohen-Watnick and his lawyer colleague took his findings to White House Counsel Don McGahn. McGahn’s response was basically: stop doing this. McGahn immediately saw that this amounted to interference with the investigation (perhaps even criminal interference) or at least could be viewed as such. So McGahn quickly shut the whole thing down. Or he thought he had. But Cohen-Watnick, or whoever he was working with or on behalf of, didn’t want to end it there. He needed a way to get his work public regardless of what McGahn said. That’s where Devin Nunes comes in. Cohen-Watnick brought Nunes over to the White House to share his ‘findings’ in that notorious midnight caper. That was how Devin Nunes went to work for the White House, got himself temporarily kicked off the Russia investigation (he’s the chairman of the committee) and began the ‘unmasking’ charade and clown show. (I did a more detailed narrative of these events in this post from last April if you’re interested.) We know that for almost a year Nunes, whose responsibility is oversight of the executive branch, has made it his almost exclusive responsibility to run interference for the President on the Russia front. We know that back in March he was used as a conduit to end-run into the public sphere misinformation McGahn was wise enough to block. It actually makes perfect sense that the memo would have a similar lineage, even though Cohen-Watnick himself was finally fired in August. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/nunes-dirty-hands-part-two Note that both Nunes and Huckabee Sanders dodged the question about whether or not the White House was involved in drafting the memo. Devin Nunes has Trump's tiny hand jammed firmly up his ass (note for mcbigski: I do not actually believe Donald Trump has literally shoved his hand up Devin Nunes' ass). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Mexal said: Paul Ryan is bragging about $1.5 trillion worth of debt, a massive decrease in revenue needed for government programs because a woman said she's getting an extra $1.50 a week. I am trying to imagine the situation he describes. I really invite everybody to do so. I think if this actually happened then Paul Ryan must be totally deaf to irony/sarcasm. Other possible scenarios? "Yeah, I get 6 $ a month. I am so stoked." I mean what could she do with those 6 bucks? Buy an extra pack of cigarettes? Personally I find that fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraculaAD1972 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 6 hours ago, denstorebog said: Have you tried actually living in one of the well-functioning Scandinavian socialist countries of today, with their unmatched support for health care, education, parental leave, welfare for the general population, clean environment, etc.? And their record-low rates of crime, political corruption and inequality? Oh, and higher quota of millionaires per citizen, in case you were going to resort to some silly argument about socialism quelling the opportunity for businesses and entrepreneurship. You mean well-functioning countries like Sweden, where the women are afraid to go out at night and free speech is a distant memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 6 hours ago, James Arryn said: How many World Championships in baseball, basketball or real football have Scandanavian teams won? No need to rush the answer, I can wait. I didn't think any dirty foreigners were allowed to compete at those World Championships? I thought they were only allowed ice hockey (which you seem to have missed off your list for some unknown reason ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 The fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, DraculaAD1972 said: You mean well-functioning countries like Sweden, where the women are afraid to go out at night and free speech is a distant memory. Just like the no-go zones in Holland US ambassador Pete Hoekstra revealed to the a world unaware of such things! My God, and to think of the hours I spent wandering around Helsinki after dark while at WorldCom last summer. Cuz women are scared in all the Nordic countries, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Just like the no-go zones in Holland US ambassador Pete Hoekstra revealed to the a world unaware of such things! My God, and to think of the hours I spent wandering around Helsinki after dark while at WorldCom last summer. Cuz women are scared in all the Nordic countries, amirite? Stoopid LIBRAL!!!! Of course you don't understand that he was referring to women being afraid to take their tiny bird brains outside into the COLD because they don't have a TRUMP protecting them from global WARMING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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