LongRider Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, James Arryn said: Rude? In Canada? Lol, you’ll have us littering next. *shakes head at American ignorance* Actually, Canadian Neo-Nazis would be interesting. SORRY, PLEASE CONSIDER RETURNING TO YOUR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, IF IT’S NOT INCONVENIENT, SORRY. WE’VE HEARD VERY NICE THINGS ABOUT IT. SORRY. No littering either?!! Good lord, Prezzie Fake Tan wants to build the Wall on the wrong border! Heathens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nasty LongRider said: No littering either?!! Good lord, Prezzie Fake Tan wants to build the Wall on the wrong border! Heathens. Oh, we’re coming for you. You guys won’t know what hit you. Well, all the Tim Hortons might be a bit of a giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, James Arryn said: Oh, we’re coming for you. You guys won’t know what hit you. Well, all the Tim Hortons might be a bit of a giveaway. Oh noes! A hockey rink on every corner! And all I really wanted was taco trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Tsarevich Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Not seen this talked, if it even belongs here, but Pentagon wants smaller nukes. Original article I saw (enjoy, it's Finnish) uses in it's headline a quote "can really be used". So has anybody of importance actually said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraculaAD1972 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, denstorebog said: Since you've already been ridiculed enough on the previous page, I'll just leave you with 3 questions to ponder. 1) Have you ever been to Sweden, or have you just experienced Sweden through Fox News and Breitbart? (I'm a Scandinavian myself, and as such I have a pretty good picture of how things are really going over here, so you don't need to actually answer this question. Just something to get your thought processes flowing.) 2) Why are crime rates so low and general happiness so high across all Scandinavian countries compared to the US if they're generally war-torn shitholes? 3) The real question: Do you think there might be a political reason that your right-wing outlets feel a need to paint Sweden the way they do? Can you guess what it is? 1. No. 2. Not war torn, just a nightmare of well-intentioned feminist lefties ruining everything. Low crime rates except sexual violence has skyrocketed thanks to migrants. 3. Sweden's problem is its immigration policy and a culture so mired in political correctness that no one can deviate from the government narrative without feeling guilty or being labelled as a racist or a nazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, TsarGrey said: Not seen this talked, if it even belongs here, but Pentagon wants smaller nukes. Original article I saw (enjoy, it's Finnish) uses in it's headline a quote "can really be used". So has anybody of importance actually said that? This has been going on for a while, as a matter of fact. The US military under W. was already making noises in that direction, and I still have this article from 2016 on my computer:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/science/as-us-modernizes-nuclear-weapons-smaller-leaves-some-uneasy.html?_r=0 Truth is, this reflects a very old debate that can be traced to at least the eighties and possibly as early as the fifties. Basically you have two schools of thought: one that sees nuclear weapons as a last-resort deterrent and prefers strategic weapons, and one that has wet dreams about actually using this tremendous power for immediate geopolitical gains that wants more tactical weapons. In actuality, tactical nukes are already widespread but fortunately no one has been crazy enough to use them -as far as I know. I'm not sure what's supposed to be great about them since they end up being just as unusable as strategic weapons. The cynic in me concludes that this is just a way for defense contractors to win shit-tons of money while making a nuclear apocalypse slightly more likely. So fuck these people. Seriously, these guys are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, DraculaAD1972 said: 1. No. 2. Not war torn, just a nightmare of well-intentioned feminist lefties ruining everything. Low crime rates except sexual violence has skyrocketed thanks to migrants. 3. Sweden's problem is its immigration policy and a culture so mired in political correctness that no one can deviate from the government narrative without feeling guilty or being labelled as a racist or a nazi. hahha this guy probably also believes the prisonpaul is a full sized person and not filming from inside a shoebox, or possibly a dollhouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, James Arryn said: Oh, we’re coming for you. You guys won’t know what hit you. Well, all the Tim Hortons might be a bit of a giveaway. I, for one, welcome our new hockey-loving, funny-sounding, poutine-eating, Molson-drinking overlords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercenaryChef Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 48 minutes ago, DraculaAD1972 said: 1. No. 2. Not war torn, just a nightmare of well-intentioned feminist lefties ruining everything. Low crime rates except sexual violence has skyrocketed thanks to migrants. 3. Sweden's problem is its immigration policy and a culture so mired in political correctness that no one can deviate from the government narrative without feeling guilty or being labelled as a racist or a nazi. so, you haven't been to Sweden, but know all these great facts. nice! so migrants and lefties are ruining the states and Sweden. damn it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 12 hours ago, DanteGabriel said: Why don't you try coming up with a positive defense of capitalism? You know, actually back up an assertion. It would be so novel! And it would totally surprise the people who think you're just a sea lion who's incapable of expressing more than bumper sticker platitudes. Did you know that Andrew Carnegie came to this country from Scotland with nothing and and ended up now the richest men in history ? So didn't Hector Boyardee(Chef Boyardee) who came from Italy. Thomas Edison , Henry Ford There are alot examples of people made fortunes and create whole industries because capitalism gave them the opportunity to do so,. There many are examples I could tase will suffice In capitalism anyone form anywhere has the possibility of achieving success and wealth and in the process what these people do is create jobs and industries which do benefit society as whole and yes Im well aware of that it creates income inequities but, that comes with the territory. And yes ot everyone succeeds . Capitalism rewards success and punishes failure. In Socialism you have nationalized industries and enforced wage egalitarian which pays you the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, MercurialCannibal said: so, you haven't been to Sweden, but know all these great facts. nice! so migrants and lefties are ruining the states and Sweden. damn it! Wait wait wait...so...people are getting raped all the time because the feminists are in charge? What the what the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Is this guy for real or trolling or did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 12 hours ago, Sword of Doom said: lol no it has not. How successful was Socialism in placse like was it Russia and China ? Let me answer that for you . Not very successful at all. Which is why both of them brought in capitalism Examples Russia's Forced collectivism of farms caused famine and food shortages and mass starvation . in China Mao's great leap forward caused about 30 million deaths from famine . One of Mao's brilliant brainstorms was to have the farmers instead of growing food , forge their own steel, that of course didn't work at all . Also worth noting , Lenin had meeting with the famous businessman Almond Hammer and told him that socialism in Russia was not really working and that he wanted Hammer to help bring in foreign investment into Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, GAROVORKIN said: Did you know that Andrew Carnegie came to this country from Scotland with nothing and and ended up now the richest men in history ? So didn't Hector Boyardee(Chef Boyardee) who came from Italy. Thomas Edison , Henry Ford There are alot examples of people made fortunes and create whole industries because capitalism gave them the opportunity to do so,. There many are examples I could tase will suffice In capitalism anyone form anywhere has the possibility of achieving success and wealth and in the process what these people do is create jobs and industries which do benefit society as whole and yes Im well aware of that it creates income inequities but, that comes with the territory. And yes ot everyone succeeds . Capitalism rewards success and punishes failure. See personally I wouldn't use a guy who destroyed several peoples ability to achieve success and wealth in order to achieve his own wealth and success as an example of "capitalism [rewarding] success and [punishing] failure." Capitalism is neither as good as you are positing, nor can the actual good done be assumed to be because of capitalism. This feels an awful lot like when people try to claim Christianity is responsible for modern science. Quote In Socialism you have nationalized industries and enforced wage egalitarian which pays you the same . You don't even slightly know what socialism is. 5 minutes ago, GAROVORKIN said: How successful was Socialism in placse like was it Russia and China ? Let me answer that for you . Not very successful at all. Examples Russia's Forced collectivism of farms caused famine and food shortages and mass starvation . in China Mao's great leap forward caused about 30 million deaths from famine . One of Mao's brilliant brainstorms was to have the farmers instead of growing food , forge their own steel, that of course didn't work at all . Hey, perhaps learn the difference between communism and socialism before talking about either? ETA: And as long as we're misunderstanding economic systems I'm gonna go ahead and lay the deaths caused by things like the genocide in the Americas and the Irish Potato famine. So that's what? 100+ million deaths? Guess capitalism is not very successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Queen Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, GAROVORKIN said: Did you know that Andrew Carnegie came to this country from Scotland with nothing and and ended up now the richest men in history ? So didn't Hector Boyardee(Chef Boyardee) who came from Italy. Thomas Edison , Henry Ford There are alot examples of people made fortunes and create whole industries because capitalism gave them the opportunity to do so,. There many are examples I could tase will suffice In capitalism anyone form anywhere has the possibility of achieving success and wealth and in the process what these people do is create jobs and industries which do benefit society as whole and yes Im well aware of that it creates income inequities but, that comes with the territory. And yes ot everyone succeeds . Capitalism rewards success and punishes failure. In Socialism you have nationalized industries and enforced wage egalitarian which pays you the same . As someone who grew up in Pittsburgh and remembers the collapse of steel very well, I can tell you that Carnegie paid his workers practically nothing and their working conditions were absolutely appalling. He was a ruthless son of a bitch. Ever heard of Pinkerton? He and the other titans of industry (the robber barons) fought tooth and nail against fair labor practices and safe working conditions. Steel workers didn't start earning good wages until much later. Yeah, he went all noble and philanthropic later. That doesn't change the fact that he and every other capitalist made their fortunes by exploiting other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Triskele said: Not only that, but the right-winger wants you to believe he's concerned about it too. Man, the amount of bannable response that just went through my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraculaAD1972 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, MercurialCannibal said: so, you haven't been to Sweden, but know all these great facts. nice! so migrants and lefties are ruining the states and Sweden. damn it! I'm not sure this is about vising Sweden. We're not writing a Lonely Planet tour guide. You don't need to timetravel back to Nazi Germany in order to denounce Hitler. Acquiring knowledge is about more than being a tourist. 17 minutes ago, TrueMetis said: See personally I wouldn't use a guy who destroyed several peoples ability to achieve success and wealth in order to achieve his own wealth and success as an example of "capitalism [rewarding] success and [punishing] failure." Capitalism is neither as good as you are positing, nor can the actual good done be assumed to be because of capitalism. This feels an awful lot like when people try to claim Christianity is responsible for modern science. You don't even slightly know what socialism is. Hey, perhaps learn the difference between communism and socialism before talking about either? ETA: And as long as we're misunderstanding economic systems I'm gonna go ahead and lay the deaths caused by things like the genocide in the Americas and the Irish Potato famine. So that's what? 100+ million deaths? Guess capitalism is not very successful. Wasn't Hitler a socialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, DraculaAD1972 said: Wasn't Hitler a socialist? In the same way North Korea is a democratic republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Queen Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, DraculaAD1972 said: I'm not sure this is about vising Sweden. We're not writing a Lonely Planet tour guide. You don't need to timetravel back to Nazi Germany in order to denounce Hitler. Acquiring knowledge is about more than being a tourist. Wasn't Hitler a socialist? What makes you say that? He killed the communists and socialists first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, DraculaAD1972 said: Wasn't Hitler a socialist? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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