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4 Upcoming Battles: Steel, Ice, Blood & Fire (your predictions?)

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12 hours ago, Agent Orange said:

I don't know about some your predictions, Sigella.  

  • Battle of Fire:  Daenerys will be too busy winning the Dothraki over.  I think this battle will be fought without dragons.  I don't think the horn has power; however, blowing the horn will cause confusion for the good guys.  Remember, the horn is the signal.  Who knows what the horn sounds like?  A horn is a horn to many.  The sound of one horn can be mistaken for a signal.  The good defenders of the city of Meereen, the Free Company of Soldiers serving the Mother, the Ironborn, and the sellswords have the skills advantage over the Slavers and their hired armies.  But battles are mostly a game of numbers.  The less competent can win through sheer numbers.  I think the good guys, Team Daenerys, will get a victory but it may not be one-sided.  Many of the city defenders will die and many Ironborn ships will burn.  But yeah, it will be a costly win.  It may play out in such a way that it will require Dany, Drogon, and the Dothraki coming in to save the day.  
  • Battle of Ice:  I see this battle being so close.  Stannis will pull off a brilliant strategy but it will fall short.  Think, Oberyn vs the Mountain.  Roose Bolton is as smart as Roose and they are fighting in the north.  Bolton is behind walls while Stannis is outside.  The only weakness the Boltons have is the lack of food, which is a problem that Stannis shares.  The Boltons have traitors in their midst, which Roose must suspect, but he remedied that when he sent the Manderly forces out.  Stannis roasted his men for cannibalism and the food shortage is not likely to abate any time soon, expect a mutiny.   The Boltons will get a narrow victory and Stannis will be captured as outlined in the famous Pink Letter.  The Boltons will have what Torrhen had before the Conquest.
  • Battle of Blood:  Euron has the element of surprise and the Redwynes, Hightowers, and Tyrells are soft compared to the Ironborn.  Euron will have his way out in the seas but he is no match for the Tyrells on land.  This one will be a draw, with Euron winning the sea battles but losing the ground wars.  However, because the Tyrells will be drawn to the battle between Aegon and the Lannisters, Euron will eventually manage to take and hold the Reach and the Riverlands.  He will get what Harren Hoare had.
  • Battle of Steel:  Aegon will win the Stormlands and get Dornish support.  I don't believe he will be able to advance on King's Landing because the Lannisters are too powerful still.  Aegon will gain control of Dorne and the Stormlands.  In other words, he will get what Durandon had, plus Dorne.  

What I am predicting when the dust settles is a broken Westeros.  Westeros will pretty much revert back to the same conditions when Aegon first launched his conquest.  The Ironborn will have the seas and through attrition between the Tyrells and Aegon, he will become the new Black Harren.  Aegon becomes the new Argilac.  Either the Boltons or the Starks will be in the same situation that the Starks had under Torrhen.  Daenerys will play the role of Aegon and come to a divided Westeros that will have to be reconquered all over again.

Fire: There are already two dragons present at battle. One is circling above dropping burning plague-corpses among the Yunkaii. Excluding them seems a poor choice to me. :) Also GRRM always seem to write with a lot of free temporal wriggle room in order to surprise us so I'm also hoping for some of that.

Ice: Ok I'd buy into that.

Blood: Tyrrell host is in KL awaiting the trial (I assume most of Hightower's swords are included in there and even if they weren't I expect Hightower forces needs to defend Oldtown above anything else), Redwyne fleet just took Dragonstone so the only force that plays a reasonable part is RF and they will have the surprise on their side. The IF is in Mereen though so I still expect the IB to bite the dust in face of RF.

Steel: I'd deem your prediction correct with the reservation that the GC will mutiny and sell Aegon and Arianne both to the IT for pardons and lordships before any dornish forces can join them.

edit: I'm curious as hell as to what Varys will do about that :D

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On 2/13/2018 at 6:17 PM, Frey Kings said:

Ice: Stannis vs Boltons

I don't see much point in this but to give Stannis a part to play in the Second Dance of the Dragons after the so called battle of ice...

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     Stannis nodded.  "You will escort the Braavosi banker back to the Wall.  Choose six good men and take twelve horses."
     "To ride or eat?"
     The king was not amused.  "I want you gone before midday, ser.  Lord Bolton could be on us any moment, and it is imperative that the banker return to Braavos.  You shall accompany him across the narrow sea."
     "If there is to be a battle, my place is here with you."
     "Your place is where I say it is.  I have five hundred swords as good as you, or better, but you have a pleasing manner and a glib tongue, and those will be of more use to me at Braavos then here.  The Iron Bank has opened its coffers to me.  You will collect their coin and hire ships and sellswords.  A company of good repute, if you can find one.  The Golden Company would be my first choice, if they are not already under contract.  Seek for them in the Disputed Lands, if need be.  But first hire as many swords as you can find in Braavos, and send them to me by way of Eastwatch.  Archers as well, we need more bows."
     Ser Justin's hair had fallen down across one eye.  He pushed it back and said, "The captains of the free companies will join a lord more readily than a mere knight, Your Grace.  I hold neither lands nor title, why should they sell their swords to me?"
     "Go to them with both fists full of golden dragons," the king said, in an acid tone.  "That should prove persuasive.  Twenty thousand men should suffice.  Do not return with fewer."
...
     "As you command," Ser Justin said.
     "It may be that we shall lose this battle," the king said grimly.  "In Braavos you may hear that I am dead.  It may even be true.  You shall find my sellswords nonetheless."
     The knight hesitated.  "Your Grace, if you are dead — "
     " — you will avenge my death, and seat my daughter on the Iron Throne.  Or die in the attempt."
     Ser Justin put one hand on his sword hilt.  "On my honor as a knight, you have my word."

Theon, Winds

 

On 2/13/2018 at 6:17 PM, Frey Kings said:

Fire: Daenerys vs Slavers

Daenerys is occupied in the Dothraki Sea. It will be up to Barristan, Tyrion, and Victarion to defeat the slavers. Politics makes for strange bedfellows. 

On 2/13/2018 at 6:17 PM, Frey Kings said:

Blood: Euron vs Redwyne Fleet

Not much point in a Redwyne victory, is there? 

On 2/13/2018 at 6:17 PM, Frey Kings said:

Steel: JonCon vs Storm End's garrison and Mace Tyrell's forces

The Last Storm foreshadows Jon Connington defeating Mace Tyrell between Storm’s End and Bronzegate, and that Randyll Tarly and his heir, Dickon, will be killed. 

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On 2/13/2018 at 6:17 PM, Frey Kings said:

Ice: Stannis vs Boltons

Fire: Daenerys vs Slavers

Blood: Euron vs Redwyne Fleet

Steel: JonCon vs Storm End's garrison and Mace Tyrell's forces

Ice: Ramsay & Roose will be fighting each other

Fire: I don't know, hopefully it moves the Mereenese plot forward

Blood: Euron's goal was not to lord of the shield islands, I wonder what his true motive and end game is.

Steel: Unfortunately Arianne is not her father's daughter and will probably mess up (Or more likely XYZ will use her)

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