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Ironborn vs Free Folk


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4 minutes ago, UFT said:

who do you like more overall?

 

They're both quite awful.  

Ironborn - They raid and advocate the pirate lifestyle, too proud to farm, they steal.

Free Folk - They look down on people who kneel and yet they cross the wall and steal (and kill) from those same people.  Too proud to kneel but evidently not too proud to steal.

The biggest difference?  The Ironborn are more organized and more fierce.  They don't raid and steal for need, they do it because they're proud of it.  But yes, the big difference is the Ironborn are more organized, better equipped, and thus more dangerous.

I am not a fan of either people.  Both are about to lay waste to Westeros, unfortunately.  The Free Folk in the north and the Ironborn in the south.  

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8 hours ago, Agent Orange said:

They're both quite awful.  

Ironborn - They raid and advocate the pirate lifestyle, too proud to farm, they steal.

Free Folk - They look down on people who kneel and yet they cross the wall and steal (and kill) from those same people.  Too proud to kneel but evidently not too proud to steal.

The biggest difference?  The Ironborn are more organized and more fierce.  They don't raid and steal for need, they do it because they're proud of it.  But yes, the big difference is the Ironborn are more organized, better equipped, and thus more dangerous.

I am not a fan of either people.  Both are about to lay waste to Westeros, unfortunately.  The Free Folk in the north and the Ironborn in the south.  

Took the words straight out of my mouth.

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The Wildlings.  Their history, closeness to the ferocity of the 1st Men, pride and love of freedom are the future of Westeros.  When they learn to be productive citizens of the larger society they will be a force to reckon with.  Why is Selyse marrying and planning to marry so many "noble" Wildlings off to her own men?  

The Ironborn are not hopeless.  Asha is written as some silly bad ass viking warrior pirate but as we learn more from her own thoughts, she's just a woman who wants assimilation and a real future for her people.  Once the Nuncles are all gone Theon could be key in helping turn the Ironborn into productive citizens.   

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