Bonnot OG Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 5 hours ago, larrytheimp said: Say your kid was relocated to a new country at the age of five. They grew up there, had a childhood, became an adult, had a job, a significant other; in short a life. What law did they break? Are they supposed to save up as children to return to their 'homeland' upon their majority? Are they supposed to abandon their life here [because] you sought a better life for them? What the fuck exactly are they supposed to do? Go somewhere they don't even remember? Frog eater is white, he/she would never be able to put him/herself in the shoes of some piss ant immigrant. That is beneath them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 12 hours ago, TrueMetis said: But that's the US governments claim to like 90% of the US. BINGO !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Sword of Doom said: Frog eater is white, he/she would never be able to put him/herself in the shoes of some piss ant immigrant. That is beneath them. I'm white. Not sure that's the sticking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Quote When the Public Religion Research Institute and Brookings Institution asked Americans in 2016 their views of immigration from different parts of the world, it found that Republicans were only three points more likely than Democrats to want to reduce immigration from “predominantly Christian countries” and only seven points more likely to want to reduce immigration from Europe. By contrast, they were 33 points more likely to support reducing immigration from Mexico and Central America and 41 points more likely to support reducing immigration from “predominantly Muslim countries.” What really drives Republican views about immigrants, in other words, is less their legal status than their nation of origin, their religion, and their race. Trump grasped that during the campaign, and in coalition with a bevy of current and former Southern Senators—Jeff Sessions, David Perdue and Tom Cotton—he has used it to turn the GOP into a party devoted to slashing legal immigration. It's Not Illegal Immigration That Worries Republicans Anymore The Trump-era GOP cares more about the national origin and race of immigrants than the methods they used to enter the United States. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-the-new-gop-crack-down-on-legal-immigration-reveals/553631/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Pony Queen Jace said: Ini. Jace loves ya. Really, she does. But Dems already punted DACA by agreeing to a budget deal. Yesterday was McConnell's deadline for debate on the issue. Dems have absolutely no leverage. There is nothing they can do. DACA is being used to cut legal immigration by 50%. If it's that or DACA, say good bye to the Dreamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Quote The indictments filed by the special counsel on Friday forcefully punctuates the warnings of intelligence chiefs that Russia has been in the business of interfering in U.S. elections and has no intention of closing up shop. Robert Mueller has also added extraordinary detail. Russian entities have spent millions and “employed hundreds” to carry out this work. The Internet Research Agency, apparently directing the program, is now revealed to have been among the largest Super PACs operating in the 2016 elections. This is now clearly one of the major campaign finance scandals in American history. Where Mueller Might Go Next We only know about the Russian part of the conspiracy. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/where-mueller-might-go-next.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I'd missed this on my own, but it was pointed out to me. A salient piece of information in these Russian indictments is the revelation that the Russians knew hairless little hands was going to run for POTUS a year before anybody else did. They had a good window of time to put together their strategy and organize to implement it before the campaign began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Martell Spy said: It's Not Illegal Immigration That Worries Republicans Anymore The Trump-era GOP cares more about the national origin and race of immigrants than the methods they used to enter the United States. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-the-new-gop-crack-down-on-legal-immigration-reveals/553631/ Illegal immigration was always just a proxy for "non-whites" for them anyway. As with everything, Trump's main effect has been to say the quiet parts loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Quote Teenage survivors of Wednesday’s deadly shooting at a Florida high school are organizing a march in Washington next month to demand new gun control laws. Speaking on ABC’s This Week on Sunday, Cameron Kasky, one Marjory Stoneman Douglas High student involved in the event, said those who survived the massacre that killed 17 people are determined to “create a new normal where there’s a badge of shame on any politician who's accepting money from the NRA.” He said students want to get their message across to President Trump, Sen. Marco Rubio, and Gov. Rick Scott “to give them the opportunity to be on the right side of this.” Kasky and four of his classmates are planning a series of demonstrations across the country, with the first one, called “March for Our Lives,” to take place in D.C. on March 24, he said. Florida Shooting Survivors Vow to Shame Lawmakers at D.C. March https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-shooting-survivors-vow-to-shame-lawmakers-at-dc-march?ref=home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Quote As Democrats make raising the minimum wage a centerpiece of their 2018 campaigns, and Republicans call for states to handle the issue, both are missing an important problem: Wage laws are poorly enforced, with workers often unable to recover back pay even after the government rules in their favor. That’s the conclusion of a nine-month investigation by POLITICO, which found that workers are so lightly protected that six states have no investigators to handle minimum-wage violations, while 26 additional states have fewer than 10 investigators. Given the widespread nature of wage theft and the dearth of resources to combat it, most cases go unreported. Thus, an estimated $15 billion in desperately needed income for workers with lowest wages goes instead into the pockets of shady bosses. Behind the minimum wage fight, a sweeping failure to enforce the law Raising hourly pay is a rallying cry for 2018, but states often fail to get workers the money that’s owed them. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/18/minimum-wage-not-enforced-investigation-409644 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Something this latest massacre is revealing is the truth up front and personal of HOW FREQUENTLY such terrorism is visited upon kids and teachers. Parkland's survivors include more than one person who is close to someone else who survived -- or did not. For one instance, see this story in the Independent of the school library's media specialist -- she was close to another media specialist librarian -- at Sandy Hook. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/florida-shooting-marjory-stoneman-douglas-high-school-diana-haneski-saved-lives-sandy-hook-a8215261.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Triskele said: Remember though: Sword of Doom has stated "I hate white people" before. In their defense, it was during the legitimately traumatic moment of Trump's win, and possibly wasn't meant to apply to the millions of white people that didn't vote for Trump, but they seem to not really do subtlety. As a white person. We ain't great most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Triskele said: #We'reAllLimbaughNow #WeAllFloatDownHere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 0:44 AM, dmc515 said: I'm not sure what this means. Democrats have long been forced to support coalitions of minority groups since the turn of the millennium, having ceded gradually the Union vote (although if we're fair that's kind of on the Union-type voters). It's why supporting the gaes suddenly became kind of ok. I was saying that Democrats will be forced to accept the fact that a dedication to something, even the right something, can only go so far in today's modern political atmosphere. It's unfortunate, it really is, but at the end of the day the DACA people are not worth the ungodly effort it would take to get them back in 3 years. It breaks my heart to type those words, and I would absolutely love some type of priority visa program, but the dangers to literally the basic functions of our democracy are too great to waste political capitol on another quagmire created by the Republicans. Democrats should run on a message about Republicans as good as deporting Americans. They should not make promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Bass Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The NRA may be wagging the Republican dog, but that doesn't have to be true for Democrats. Next time they win power in Congress and the Presidency, they should pass the assault weapons ban again, impose licensing and restrictions on semi-automatic weapons (possibly including insurance requirements), and so forth. They could do it, too - D.C. v Heller was not a ban on any type of gun control policy (although who knows what the five conservatives on the Court might rule now). Hell, even Democratic states could pass stuff right now. Oh, and they should finally get rid of the bloody filibuster to do that and other reforms. As long as they have it, it essentially makes the entire party platform subject to a veto from their most conservative senators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 GET FUCKED, NRA!!!! Emma Gonzalez saying on National TV that the NRA is a goddamn murder INC. Yaaay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, Fall Bass said: The NRA may be wagging the Republican dog, but that doesn't have to be true for Democrats. Next time they win power in Congress and the Presidency, they should pass the assault weapons ban again, impose licensing and restrictions on semi-automatic weapons (possibly including insurance requirements), and so forth. They could do it, too - D.C. v Heller was not a ban on any type of gun control policy (although who knows what the five conservatives on the Court might rule now). Hell, even Democratic states could pass stuff right now. Oh, and they should finally get rid of the bloody filibuster to do that and other reforms. As long as they have it, it essentially makes the entire party platform subject to a veto from their most conservative senators. When it comes to anti-abortion laws Republican controlled states keep on throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. And some shit odes end up sticking and you have states with laws that make getting an abortion pretty difficult. So if Democrats are that concerned about gun control other than it appearing to be a point of difference between the parties, then they should be applying the same tactic in Democrat controlled states. Don't be afraid of having state gun control laws laws struck down in the courts, just find ever more creative ways to come as close as possible to the outcomes you want. It seems there is a reluctance to take incremental steps and people want comprehensive reform NOW! So things carry on with a lot of people wanting change but no change actually happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: GET FUCKED, NRA!!!! Emma Gonzalez saying on National TV that the NRA is a goddamn murder INC. Yaaay That was glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Rick Gates looks like Keifer Southerland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, Fall Bass said: Hell, even Democratic states could pass stuff right now. There is that law mulling about at the moment, though, where states can only apply whatever restrictions also apply in the remaining 49 states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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