Euron's Mom Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This I think is a question that's been bugging me since Season 4! Tyrion gave them superior weapons, so they'd be a force against the Vale. He even promised them the Vale. Why did they let Sandor & Arya and Brienne & Podrick through unmolested? If Littlefinger took the full force of the Vale's army into Winterfell, wouldn't this be a prime opportunity for the newly armed Hill Tribes to wreck havoc? I found Shaga, Timmet, Chella, etc to be interesting and fun characters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Euron's Mom said: This I think is a question that's been bugging me since Season 4! Tyrion gave them superior weapons, so they'd be a force against the Vale. He even promised them the Vale. Why did they let Sandor & Arya and Brienne & Podrick through unmolested? If Littlefinger took the full force of the Vale's army into Winterfell, wouldn't this be a prime opportunity for the newly armed Hill Tribes to wreck havoc? I found Shaga, Timmet, Chella, etc to be interesting and fun characters! It's a book storyline that they started and then abandoned. In the books: Shagga took his tribe into the Kingswood and are still there. The theory is that Tyrion will re-recruit them to help in Daenerys' attack on King's Landing. Since the TV show has gone in a different direction, they're no longer relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in Black-Snow Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 They made so much out of "A Lannister always pays his debts" (and rightly so, imo) that they almost have to revisit this. Really, I will be disappointed if they don't, even if it's just a little nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 11:24 AM, Euron's Mom said: This I think is a question that's been bugging me since Season 4! Tyrion gave them superior weapons, so they'd be a force against the Vale. He even promised them the Vale. Why did they let Sandor & Arya and Brienne & Podrick through unmolested? If Littlefinger took the full force of the Vale's army into Winterfell, wouldn't this be a prime opportunity for the newly armed Hill Tribes to wreck havoc? I found Shaga, Timmet, Chella, etc to be interesting and fun characters! They aren’t as interesting in the show. Maybe they just happened not to be there when they were passing through? Also, for all we know the Knights of the Vale killed any tribesman they stumbled across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 As suggested above, it's a plot hole for the TV series. This is how it might play out in the books. Was Timett a character in the show? In the books, Spoiler he might very well be the little Lord Arryn's true heir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon in the North Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 The Vale is large. The two groups were traveling through the Vale doesn’t guarantee they would run into the Hill tribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon in the North Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 45 minutes ago, Lost Melnibonean said: As suggested above, it's a plot hole for the TV series. This is how it might play out in the books. Was Timett a character in the show? In the books, Reveal hidden contents he might very well be the little Lord Arryn's true heir. Not a plot hole. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in Black-Snow Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I think if Tyrion lives, he will keep his word and give them the Vale. From the pics that were leaked, doesn't look good for the Knights of the Vale. Which would give the show the wiggle room to squeeze in the Hill Tribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 0:50 PM, Lost Melnibonean said: As suggested above, it's a plot hole for the TV series. This is how it might play out in the books. Was Timett a character in the show? In the books, Reveal hidden contents he might very well be the little Lord Arryn's true heir. Yes, but he’s not as impressive as in the books. He’s among the Hill Tribes he introduces to Tywin and later appears when Tyrion arrests Grand Maester Pycelle. Tyrion tells him to “cut off Pycelle’s manhood and feed it to the goats.” Timett responds “There are no goats, halfman!” Tyrion replies “Then make do!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammers1895 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 21 hours ago, Travis said: I think if Tyrion lives, he will keep his word and give them the Vale. From the pics that were leaked, doesn't look good for the Knights of the Vale. Which would give the show the wiggle room to squeeze in the Hill Tribes. What pictures are you talking about Travis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammers1895 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 In the BOOKS, which I thought this forum covered, the Vale still has a role to play and I would think the Vale mountain tribes would still come into the picture in some regard. Could be very minor. I am not expecting much only because there wasn't a big character from their ranks. If we as readers had been introduced to a Vale mountain tribesman or woman, shared their thoughts and travels, and they remained part of the story line, than I would think they would re-enter the plot line somewhere in the last two books. I actually happen to be working on a fan fiction writing project which heavily involves the Vale mountain tribe, so hopefully what I am working on isn't completely rendered obsolete by whatever GRMM writes in the last 2 books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowy Tends Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 03/30/2018 at 4:58 PM, Hammers1895 said: What pictures are you talking about Travis? Link Among the shields are those bearing the Arryn's arms (which the show systematically confuses with "the Vale", as if the Vale had only one house… Bronze Yohn Royce is at Winterfell but we never see a Royce trooper…) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron's Mom Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 I just reread A Storm of Swords. Sandor and Arya had to abandon their journey to the Vale because Timett has made the high pass impossible to travel. I thought this was an interesting story development and was disappointed that the show did not follow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron III Greyjoy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 In the show they mainly seemed to be there for comic relief, so I doubt we will see them again. In the books some of them went back to the Mountains of the Moon, and others stayed in the Kingswood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 3/28/2018 at 12:50 PM, Lost Melnibonean said: As suggested above, it's a plot hole for the TV series. This is how it might play out in the books. Was Timett a character in the show? In the books, Hide contents he might very well be the little Lord Arryn's true heir. He shows up briefly in the show; for example, he’s the Vale Tribesman that Tyrion commands to “cut off [Pycelle’s] manhood and feed it to the goats”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said: He shows up briefly in the show; for example, he’s the Vale Tribesman that Tyrion commands to “cut off [Pycelle’s] manhood and feed it to the goats”. No Shagga in the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lost Melnibonean said: No Shagga in the show? Shagga showed up in Season 1 and didn’t show up after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The last we heard, they were attacking, kidnapping and raping whatever they can in the passes. Thanks Imp. Oh and yes, when they take women and little girls from carriages, caravans and travel parties, it is rape as I doubt it is to take them off by camp fires and read them stories. (I don't think they can read up there in them hills.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igziabeher Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 2:30 PM, Angel Eyes said: Shagga showed up in Season 1 and didn’t show up after that. Shagga likes axes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 It's a plotline that's been completely dropped in the TV show. In the books, it's a plotline that's being built up for a very big comeback in the last two books of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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