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Remember how I said earlier that we probably know a bunch about the hackers in Russia who did this, and even where they are located?

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But on one occasion, The Daily Beast has learned, Guccifer failed to activate the VPN client before logging on. As a result, he left a real, Moscow-based Internet Protocol address in the server logs of an American social media company, according to a source familiar with the government’s Guccifer investigation. Twitter and WordPress were Guccifer 2.0’s favored outlets. Neither company would comment for this story, and Guccifer did not respond to a direct message on Twitter.

Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow. (The Daily Beast’s sources did not disclose which particular officer worked as Guccifer.)

 
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Peter Navarro just showed up on CNN and said, when asked what it's like to work in a White House where the turnover is the highest in history, that Trump's WH is just like the New England Patriots, they win time after time after time with only the same coach and quarterback and a totally new team each time.

Is that right?

eta: And the 700 point drop in the stock market had nothing to do with tariffs. It was all Facebook and 3 interest rate hikes coming.

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On ‎3‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 1:29 PM,

Kalbear said:

The problem with firing Mueller is that it requires a lot of moving parts. I absolutely believe that if he could, he'd make a hasty decision - but it's difficult to do all of these things 'quickly':

  • Fire Rosenstein
  • Hire someone or appoint someone who will commit to firing Mueller
  • Get them approved by the Senate (if a new appointment)
  • Actually fire Mueller

All of this requires a lot of signoff from other agencies and people. It's not nearly as hasty as what he can do with, say, Tillerson. [/quote]

 

With all due respect, you may be forgetting this is *Trump* we are talking about, the guy who thinks he can do anything without consequence.

Trumps 'solution' to the Mueller investigation:  Fire Mueller directly - no bothering around with this chain of authority nonsense.  When told he can't do that, Trumps response is 'I just did.'  When told that act creates a constitutional crisis, Trumps response is 'No, I just *solved* a constitutional crisis.'  And threatened with Supreme Court action, well, Trump just laughs and says, 'Those are MY Judges,  They answer to ME.' Not real likely, true, but this does seem the sort of thing Trump might try. 

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2 hours ago, Kalbear said:

He may not be a genius, but he alone doesn't have to be; he and the Russians are really, really good at spycraft. This program is straight out of KGB playbooks for 30 years as far as destabilizing random banana republics go (and the CIA's for that matter). I know some insider stuff that makes some of their hacking kind of silly and laughable, but what they had going for them is state sponsorship and years of being able to target the same things. Their hacking wasn't particularly special, just patient - but it was very subtle. 

Putin didn't plan the op, just the outcomes. And I'm fairly confident in saying that openly declaring yourself in that manner is not something any state does, ever. It's also just not how Russia acts - they act through cutouts, and have done so for 40 years or more that we know of. 

 

Oh absolutely, I agree with this entirely.

There are many areas where the USA reigns supreme, over Russia and the world at large. Its economy, innovation, Silicon Valley - well and truly ahead.

But in terms of espionage, this is a dead-heat, I'd wager. Russia is very, very, very good at it. And very very very good at coercing intermediaries to do most of the dirty work for them.

An uncomfortable issue for the USA to deal with is that most of the extremists were not mobilised by Russians, but by fellow American citizens who were given just a few subtle nudges and starting cues from Russia. They identified, and mobilised, existing racist undercurrents, extremist anti-fact loonies and disaffected nationalists and had them do the Trump promotion.

In some ways, they could have saved themselves a lot of effort by just making a donation to Fox News, which is Trump's propaganda arm. :P 

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6 minutes ago, Triskele said:

Bolton for me vaults into first place as the scariest person in Trump world.  This is not good.  

office space is replacing idiocracy

eta: half convinced jared has a frat brother from college named jon bolton and he and trump are going through that scene right now and laughing about the amount of ordinance to be dropped on yemen

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2 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

Peter Navarro just showed up on CNN and said, when asked what it's like to work in a White House where the turnover is the highest in history, that Trump's WH is just like the New England Patriots, they win time after time after time with only the same coach and quarterback and a totally new team each time.

Is that right?

eta: And the 700 point drop in the stock market had nothing to do with tariffs. It was all Facebook and 3 interest rate hikes coming.

yeah, I haven't done the stats in a while, but I'd be surprised if the Patriots have much more or less turnover than any other succesful team. Sure, they occasionally get rid of high profile players, but they also have plenty of of mainstays. It just seems that way sometimes because they've been good for so much longer than any other team.

But that's not the biggest problem with that statement. The biggest problem is the notion that the Trump Administration is just constantly winning.

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16 minutes ago, White Walker Texas Ranger said:

yeah, I haven't done the stats in a while, but I'd be surprised if the Patriots have much more or less turnover than any other succesful team. Sure, they occasionally get rid of high profile players, but they also have plenty of of mainstays. It just seems that way sometimes because they've been good for so much longer than any other team.

But that's not the biggest problem with that statement. The biggest problem is the notion that the Trump Administration is just constantly winning.

Lol, that's another thing Navarro said - how the great wins of this presidency were being ignored by the media. That Trump's first year in office was probably the most successful in history. Ergo, the Patriots analogy.

He also was asked about the steel and aluminum tariffs and the fact that nations like Canada were exempted. He pointed out that depended on a successful Nafta negotiation, and if that didn't happen there would be quotas for Canada, the biggest US steel supplier. Which would be good for the US because a country must have a steel industry. And then they talked about the China tariffs and the drop in the stock market today, and he insisted the drop was because of the Facebook story and the announcement there would be three interest rate hikes this year (btw, all year so far the traders on CNBC have said they are expecting 3 interest rate hikes, that there was a chance there might be 2 and 4 was an outlier) and ABSOLUTELY NOT BECAUSE OF TARIFFS ON CHINA!

And finally a president was dealing with the intellectual property theft being committed by China and these tariffs were A Good Thing for Americans.

Be prepared for a sharp increase in inflation, folks.

 

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6 hours ago, Kalbear said:

So look at it not from a criminal mind, but the narcissistic sociopath mind that is Trump.

The standard operating procedure is to go on the attack and act as if they are the affronted person. They lie even more, they lie more outlandishly, they attack heavily and try and make it about the other person, they project onto others what they're accused of. And this is whether or not there is anything to it being true or not; it's whether or not they are worried that they should be ashamed of their actions. 

This is notable because of what it implies about his affairs and his business. Trump isn't particularly going on the offensive against Stormy Daniels and the lawyers, nor did he do a ton against the women who accused him of sexual assault/rape/harassment. (he said he would, but he didn't). But he IS going after Mueller and the FBI and the rest of the justice department, and has gone even harder since they started going into the Trump org itself. Which means that Trump himself likely thinks there are shameful things that need covering up heavily in his business dealings. Again, I doubt seriously that these have to do with Russia political operations - they're probably bigger versions of the gross corruption that he's been caught up in in the past. 

I think the 60 minutes interview - if it has anything juicy in it - will illustrate this a bit more clearly. My suspicion is that Daniels will likely actually somewhat praise Trump, and Trump will feel totally fine with it, and he won't freak out that much. Because to him, having sex with a porn star when your wife is pregnant with your child isn't a sign of any failure in character - it's a sign of manliness. 

Except he's really pro-Russian. Like really pro-Russian. His most consistent policy stance beyond racism and protectionism is being soft on Russia. There's a real definite connection there.

And frankly, the Russians can have tried to cover their tracks but we already know the Trump side is too stupid to have done so. Trump Jr like regularly openly talks about illegal conspiracies he's engaging in via email. We've caught him doing it at least twice.

Trump is likely most concerned about people looking in to all his financial bullshittery and crimes but there's basically zero chance his campaign wasn't involved with the Russians.

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House passed a budget plan,  (Was this linked to already?)  Seven biggest winners and losers.  Could have been worse, I suppose.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/03/22/daily-202-winners-and-losers-in-the-spending-bill/5ab30e3f30fb045e48d05b4a/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=nextdraft&utm_term=.8b2970f29be5

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