U.S. Politics: Who's Cohen Down?

[Fragile Bird]

7 hours ago, felice said:

Best typo ever Presumably the giant bats are in control, the permanent night of a planet-spanning city with no outside suiting them perfectly, and humanity is enslaved by dependence on their milk.

I don't believe it's impossible for humanity to survive in an entirely artificial environment, but we really really should ensure we know how to do so successfully and long-term before destroying the natural world, rather than making it up as we go along. Or, y'know, we could try not destroying the environment at all. In theory.

Lol, that’ll teach me to post as I am about to fall asleep! 

Worked just fine! 

[IamMe90]

21 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Talk about a dark post FB. 

As far as population growth goes, IIRC, we’re expected to hit 10 billion people by 2050, with most of the future growth coming from Africa. This could develop into a real problem given the poverty and scarce resources of the continent.

As far as the wiping out is concerned, it will be done during the Global Corporate War of 2038, and the people that will be toast are the cheap unnecessary labor class and any and all that oppose their global domination.

It is known.

Better enjoy the hell outta these last ~20 years then. Where's the blow?

[Fragile Bird]

16 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Talk about a dark post FB. 

As far as population growth goes, IIRC, we’re expected to hit 10 billion people by 2050, with most of the future growth coming from Africa. This could develop into a real problem given the poverty and scarce resources of the continent.

Let me correct you about that, Ty. The continent of Africa has fabulous mineral wealth. Not just gold and diamonds and other dazzling jewels, but vast quantities of important things like copper and rare minerals used in modern technology like cellphones and hybrid vehicles. That’s one of the reasons the Chinese are investing heavily on the continent, building roads, railrways and ports.

Water, on the other hand, will be a problem in parts of the continent, just like everywhere else.

[Fez]

17 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

As far as population growth goes, IIRC, we’re expected to hit 10 billion people by 2050, with most of the future growth coming from Africa. This could develop into a real problem given the poverty and scarce resources of the continent.

9.8 billion is the projection I saw; which, yeah, close enough. But that is also expected to be the high-water mark, or close to it, with the world population stabilizing or even beginning to fall by 2100. China and basically all the world's advanced economies (I think everyone except the US and France*) are expected to have lower populations in 2100 than they do today. On the other hand, Africa and India are expected to have many more, and they don't have the resources to support them (Nigeria is projected to have a billion people on its own by 2100); which could lead to localized humanitarian disasters.

*I forget the year, but at some point France is expected to have a larger population than Germany; which could certainly cause some interesting changes in the dynamics of the EU.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

29 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Let me correct you about that, Ty. The continent of Africa has fabulous mineral wealth. Not just gold and diamonds and other dazzling jewels, but vast quantities of important things like copper and rare minerals used in modern technology like cellphones and hybrid vehicles. That’s one of the reasons the Chinese are investing heavily on the continent, building roads, railrways and ports.

Water, on the other hand, will be a problem in parts of the continent, just like everywhere else.

FB, I know Africa is mineral rich now, but it’s getting harvested like crazy as it is, and that will only ramp up as time goes by. If you factor that in with the population growth and myriad other problems Africa currently experiences, it too looks bleak for the continent.   

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

28 minutes ago, Fez said:

9.8 billion is the projection I saw; which, yeah, close enough. But that is also expected to be the high-water mark, or close to it, with the world population stabilizing or even beginning to fall by 2100. China and basically all the world's advanced economies (I think everyone except the US and France*) are expected to have lower populations in 2100 than they do today. On the other hand, Africa and India are expected to have many more, and they don't have the resources to support them (Nigeria is projected to have a billion people on its own by 2100); which could lead to localized humanitarian disasters.

*I forget the year, but at some point France is expected to have a larger population than Germany; which could certainly cause some interesting changes in the dynamics of the EU.

Why would the global population stabilize after it hits 10 billion? With the combination of an abundance of agriculture via technological advances in farming and longer life expectancies, it should continue to grow even if birth rates drop. Furthermore, how are we going to count our future cyborg selves? But I guess that’s a problem to tackle in the wake of the Global Cooperate War after our future robot overloads take over*.

*Dear future robot overlords, please note that I gave you praise before the others.

[S John]

4 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Why would the global population stabilize after it hits 10 billion? With the combination of an abundance of agriculture via technological advances in farming and longer life expectancies, it should continue to grow even if birth rates drop. Furthermore, how are we going to count our future cyborg selves? But I guess that’s a problem to tackle in the wake of the Global Cooperate War after our future robot overloads take over*.

*Dear future robot overlords, please note that I gave you praise before the others.

I think it assumes that the world reaches a state of comparable development.  Being alive is expensive in the developed world, and it tends to take longer to become stable as an adult, so people have less kids.  

[Martell Spy]

58 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Talk about a dark post FB. 

As far as population growth goes, IIRC, we’re expected to hit 10 billion people by 2050, with most of the future growth coming from Africa. This could develop into a real problem given the poverty and scarce resources of the continent.

As far as the wiping out is concerned, it will be done during the Global Corporate War of 2038, and the people that will be toast are the cheap unnecessary labor class and any and all that oppose their global domination.

It is known.

Do not worry, Max Headroom will free us.

[Fez]

29 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Why would the global population stabilize after it hits 10 billion? With the combination of an abundance of agriculture via technological advances in farming and longer life expectancies, it should continue to grow even if birth rates drop. Furthermore, how are we going to count our future cyborg selves? But I guess that’s a problem to tackle in the wake of the Global Cooperate War after our future robot overloads take over*.

*Dear future robot overlords, please note that I gave you praise before the others.

Because the birth rate isn't just expected to drop, it's expected to drop dramatically; from just below 2.5 right now to a bit under 2.0 by 2100 (which is below the population replacement rate of about 2.1). Higher range projections do have the global population slowly going from 10 billion to 11 billion before fully stabilizing, but considering how much faster fertility rates have fallen over the past few years than originally projected, I put the best odds on the lower range projections.

Granted, if we do start getting cyborg body replacements that does throw a wrench in things.

[Hereward]

1 hour ago, Fez said:

9.8 billion is the projection I saw; which, yeah, close enough. But that is also expected to be the high-water mark, or close to it, with the world population stabilizing or even beginning to fall by 2100. China and basically all the world's advanced economies (I think everyone except the US and France*) are expected to have lower populations in 2100 than they do today. On the other hand, Africa and India are expected to have many more, and they don't have the resources to support them (Nigeria is projected to have a billion people on its own by 2100); which could lead to localized humanitarian disasters.

*I forget the year, but at some point France is expected to have a larger population than Germany; which could certainly cause some interesting changes in the dynamics of the EU.

Actually, the UK is projected to have Europe's largest population in 2100, and is expected to overtake Germany in 2049. France is expected to overtake Germany in 2058.

https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/total-population-outlook-from-unstat-3/assessment-1

[Matrim Fox Cauthon]

15 minutes ago, Hereward said:

Actually, the UK is projected to have Europe's largest population in 2100, and is expected to overtake Germany in 2049. France is expected to overtake Germany in 2058.

https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/total-population-outlook-from-unstat-3/assessment-1

Who would have thought that the Germans would have such problems with germinating?

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

57 minutes ago, S John said:

I think it assumes that the world reaches a state of comparable development.  Being alive is expensive in the developed world, and it tends to take longer to become stable as an adult, so people have less kids.  

 

28 minutes ago, Fez said:

Because the birth rate isn't just expected to drop, it's expected to drop dramatically; from just below 2.5 right now to a bit under 2.0 by 2100 (which is below the population replacement rate of about 2.1). Higher range projections do have the global population slowly going from 10 billion to 11 billion before fully stabilizing, but considering how much faster fertility rates have fallen over the past few years than originally projected, I put the best odds on the lower range projections.

Granted, if we do start getting cyborg body replacements that does throw a wrench in things.

I believe those projections fail to think creatively, and are thus probably worthless. Here’s just one of a litany of examples:  Money. How the hell is our monetary system supposed to work in 50 years when labor might not be required due to technological advances. That would make it a lot easier for people to have children.

 

Bonus lack of creativity: how will we count our clones that are created to give us new organs, thus making us immortals?

[maarsen]

Back to actual politics. I am I the only person who thinks the Democrats should have Stormy Daniels run against Trump?

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

22 minutes ago, Hereward said:

Actually, the UK is projected to have Europe's largest population in 2100, and is expected to overtake Germany in 2049. France is expected to overtake Germany in 2058.

https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/total-population-outlook-from-unstat-3/assessment-1

Given the date on the study, how well does it account for Brexit and the migrant/refugee crisis? Seems like those things could really throw off those projections.

[Hereward]

2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Given the date on the study, how well does it account for Brexit and the migrant/refugee crisis? Seems like those things could really throw off those projections.

I imagine Brexit will only increase projections. Instead of large numbers of immigrants coming from eastern Europe, with relatively low birth rates, the slack will probably come from the Commonwealth, with higher birth rates. 

[TheKitttenGuard]

35 minutes ago, maarsen said:

Back to actual politics. I am I the only person who thinks the Democrats should have Stormy Daniels run against Trump?

Porn Stars are more Conservative and Republican than people will think.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

37 minutes ago, Hereward said:

I imagine Brexit will only increase projections. Instead of large numbers of immigrants coming from eastern Europe, with relatively low birth rates, the slack will probably come from the Commonwealth, with higher birth rates. 

See, I’d predict just the opposite. A quick Google search suggest the UK birth rate is declining, and IIRC, immigrants from developing countries have much higher birth rates, and I’m sure that would continue in their new Western home. And on top of that, the UK has two additional problems: a lack of space and the potential for the UK to disband.

[Jace, Extat]

30 minutes ago, TheKitttenGuard said:

Porn Stars are more Conservative and Republican than people will think.

Zach Snyder got his start shooting porn.

And it takes the same kind of tribalistic mass brain lesions to like the DC movies as to support Trump so I'm sure there's something there.

[Martell Spy]

Ted Cruz Loses Last Scrap of Dignity, Writes Time Tribute to His Bully, Donald Trump

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/04/ted-cruz-praises-donald-trump-who-bullied-his-family.html

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In his entry for the magazine’s 100 Most Influential People of 2018, Cruz omits such Trumpian achievements as getting to the bottom of the Kennedy assassination and marrying a hotter babe than Ted Cruz could snag. Instead, he credits Trump with triggering the liberals:

 

[Jace, Extat]

Alan Derschowitz was just on with Wolff and I need to amend previous charges against the man. He's a piece of shit Trump shill, but I will freely admit that with some good journalistic questioning I understand why he's a well known professor. He clearly has a very good grasp on the law and does seem to give a fuck about judicial overreach.

Fuck him. But let him spit on it first I guess.